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Scientology, The Clearwater Bar Association and Judge Greer
Libertytothecaptives.net ^ | 7/24/04 edited 2/4/05 | Unknown

Posted on 03/12/2005 11:02:46 PM PST by Dixielander

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41 posted on 03/13/2005 8:48:00 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: flaglady47

I wasn't familiar with your screen name, so I checked out your home page. After reading your reply to this thread, I think I know who your sister is.


42 posted on 03/13/2005 8:49:12 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

As a former member, I'd be happy to answer any questions, either in public or via FReepmail


43 posted on 03/13/2005 8:52:56 AM PST by null and void
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To: Dixielander

Florida is still too dangerous to even drive through, much less visit for vacation or plan to live there.


44 posted on 03/13/2005 9:00:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: null and void

Thanks, I appreciate it. Are there any websites that outline their beliefs? I recall that Tom Cruise is involved with them. There was some criticism about Scientology, and that it led to his divorce to Nicole Kidman. Before I respond to the main points of the posted article, I should know what I'm talking about ;)


45 posted on 03/13/2005 9:16:33 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Awestruck

LOL

Very good. Much better than what I had it mind.


47 posted on 03/13/2005 9:19:49 AM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: flaglady47

Thank you for saying this. I'm just tired of trying to bring a little bit of common sense to these boards. They are positively hateful. And, I may add, without any compassion towards anyone but the woman in the PVS condition. And I disagree with their idea of "compassion" on that one too.


48 posted on 03/13/2005 9:20:07 AM PST by Hildy
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To: TheSpottedOwl
For the Anti view try here:

Operation Clambake - The Inner Secrets Of Scientology Major anti Scientology site, with extensive news articles, analyses, and criticism of the alleged Scientology cult, Dianetics, and L. Ron Hubbard, ...
www.xenu.net

49 posted on 03/13/2005 9:40:44 AM PST by null and void
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To: TheSpottedOwl
For Pro go here:

Scientology - Official Church of Scientology Site
The official site of the Church of Scientology. Offers video and audio presentations, as well as virtual tours of churches.
www.scientology.org

50 posted on 03/13/2005 9:43:56 AM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

I tried your link but didn't get anything.


51 posted on 03/13/2005 9:45:42 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: Hildy; flaglady47
NOTE TO HILDY AND FLAGLADY-

From thread 'Terri Schiavo March Dailies 2005, posted today, a newspaper quote regarding the McPherson DEATH BY STARVATION AND DEHYDRATION:

"McPherson died after 17 days in the care of Scientologists. Paramedics had taken her to a hospital after a minor traffic accident, but she left with Scientology officials, who wanted her to avoid psychiatric treatment, which violates church teachings. Doctors had said the woman was battling a mental breakdown."

[ my comment ] - Nice cult....deny psychiatric or counseling help to this member, remove her from society, get her in a captive situation, not unlike a hospice, and starve to death. Precious.

"Scientology, founded in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard........"

"Its adherents don't worship a deity or pray. They believe that people are immortal spirits and that a progression of self-improvement techniques and counseling sessions, known as "auditing," can help them live more productive, satisfying lives. The goal is to become "clear" - free of mental blocks caused by painful subconscious memories. "

[ my comments ]-HUH????????But I thought this group did not BELIEVE in counseling? I am confused.

Good article, [FReeper ] Chocolate...gives a better understanding of how Scientology may have impacted this life and death issue....I suppose the cabal of lawyers who have found great wealth in defending & working for this group (certainly it is not a church....as it says above they do not believe in God, do not WORSHIP or PRAY.....have a hard time holding onto their souls.

I am sorry this group is so rampant, with its world headquarters so close to Terri.

May GOD's ARMOR DEFLECT ANY CREEPING of this CULT into her domain.

And Hildy and Flaglady-if you are interested in learning about the world htq of SCIENTOLOGY that only a few miles from where Terri is imprisoned in a HOSPICE (a place where people go who are terminally ill, with SIX months or less to LIVE, and where TERRI has suffered for FOUR LONG YEARS....she is not DYING....yet...that is... GO TO POST # 5433 on the Terri Schiavo March Dailies 20005 thread and if you are not HORRIFIED by the time you finish looking at those photos and following the two links therein...then I will not bother you with posts again.

Before you end up killing yourselves with snickering and sarcastic commetary.....go to the thread mentioned above and REVIEW the impact of this Scientology group in CLEARWATER ( there is a post by Chocolate Rose, posted this morning, that reviews this group ...look at the numbers...and then...LOOK AGAIN , carefully at the PICTURES of LISA McPHERSON, a concious person, LIKE TERRI, who WAS SUCCESSFULLY STARVED TO DEATH....take a LOOK at what this type of killing DOES TO A PERSON.. THESE ARE AUTOPSY PICTURES...BE WARNED .and READ the link by the photos of McPherson that DESCRIBE by a doctor exactly what the human body suffers being starved and dehydrated at the same time...

Before you do more to demonstrate how little you know about this case...about Terri.... someone who suffered massive bone injury ...as shown on a bone scan that you yourself CAN READ AND THINK ABOUT...a bone scan taken ONE YEAR AFTER TERRI's SO CALLED ACCIDENT...that was NEVER BEFORE THE COURTS....

Before you decide Terri's husband is NOT LYING and so deeply loves terri that he wants to honor her wish to die (ooops...I forget...he remembered THREE YEARS AFTER HER ACCIDENT...three MONTHS after he got the big money....and JUST HAD TO STOP ALL EFFORTS TO REHABILITATE HER AND LOVE HER AND TAKE HER ON OUTINGS...BRUSH HER TEETH....LET FRIENDS VISIT HER....GOT A GIRL FRIEND...MADE SOME BABIES....AND HAS WORKED TO KILL HER EVER SINCE!) TRY DEMANDING THE COURTS INVESTIGATE ABUSE.

Or to you two, since Terri is brain damaged, is the possibility, the HIGH, possibility that she was BEATEN TO A PULP on the night of her collapse...er....just so much garbage?

52 posted on 03/13/2005 9:47:07 AM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: Hildy; flaglady47
NOTE TO HILDY AND FLAGLADY-

From thread 'Terri Schiavo March Dailies 2005, posted today, a newspaper quote regarding the McPherson DEATH BY STARVATION AND DEHYDRATION:

"McPherson died after 17 days in the care of Scientologists. Paramedics had taken her to a hospital after a minor traffic accident, but she left with Scientology officials, who wanted her to avoid psychiatric treatment, which violates church teachings. Doctors had said the woman was battling a mental breakdown."

[ my comment ] - Nice cult....deny psychiatric or counseling help to this member, remove her from society, get her in a captive situation, not unlike a hospice, and starve to death. Precious.

"Scientology, founded in 1954 by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard........"

"Its adherents don't worship a deity or pray. They believe that people are immortal spirits and that a progression of self-improvement techniques and counseling sessions, known as "auditing," can help them live more productive, satisfying lives. The goal is to become "clear" - free of mental blocks caused by painful subconscious memories. "

[ my comments ]-HUH????????But I thought this group did not BELIEVE in counseling? I am confused.

Good article, [FReeper ] Chocolate...gives a better understanding of how Scientology may have impacted this life and death issue....I suppose the cabal of lawyers who have found great wealth in defending & working for this group (certainly it is not a church....as it says above they do not believe in God, do not WORSHIP or PRAY.....have a hard time holding onto their souls.

I am sorry this group is so rampant, with its world headquarters so close to Terri.

May GOD's ARMOR DEFLECT ANY CREEPING of this CULT into her domain.

And Hildy and Flaglady-if you are interested in learning about the world htq of SCIENTOLOGY that only a few miles from where Terri is imprisoned in a HOSPICE (a place where people go who are terminally ill, with SIX months or less to LIVE, and where TERRI has suffered for FOUR LONG YEARS....she is not DYING....yet...that is... GO TO POST # 5433 on the Terri Schiavo March Dailies 20005 thread and if you are not HORRIFIED by the time you finish looking at those photos and following the two links therein...then I will not bother you with posts again.

Before you end up killing yourselves with snickering and sarcastic commetary.....go to the thread mentioned above and REVIEW the impact of this Scientology group in CLEARWATER ( there is a post by Chocolate Rose, posted this morning, that reviews this group ...look at the numbers...and then...LOOK AGAIN , carefully at the PICTURES of LISA McPHERSON, a concious person, LIKE TERRI, who WAS SUCCESSFULLY STARVED TO DEATH....take a LOOK at what this type of killing DOES TO A PERSON.. THESE ARE AUTOPSY PICTURES...BE WARNED .and READ the link by the photos of McPherson that DESCRIBE by a doctor exactly what the human body suffers being starved and dehydrated at the same time...

Before you do more to demonstrate how little you know about this case...about Terri.... someone who suffered massive bone injury ...as shown on a bone scan that you yourself CAN READ AND THINK ABOUT...a bone scan taken ONE YEAR AFTER TERRI's SO CALLED ACCIDENT...that was NEVER BEFORE THE COURTS....

Before you decide Terri's husband is NOT LYING and so deeply loves terri that he wants to honor her wish to die (ooops...I forget...he remembered THREE YEARS AFTER HER ACCIDENT...three MONTHS after he got the big money....and JUST HAD TO STOP ALL EFFORTS TO REHABILITATE HER AND LOVE HER AND TAKE HER ON OUTINGS...BRUSH HER TEETH....LET FRIENDS VISIT HER....GOT A GIRL FRIEND...MADE SOME BABIES....AND HAS WORKED TO KILL HER EVER SINCE!) TRY DEMANDING THE COURTS INVESTIGATE ABUSE.

Or to you two, since Terri is brain damaged, is the possibility, the HIGH, possibility that she was BEATEN TO A PULP on the night of her collapse...er....just so much garbage?

53 posted on 03/13/2005 9:49:26 AM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: All

Sorry for double post....oops! Oh well.....DUH!


54 posted on 03/13/2005 9:52:51 AM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: null and void

let's see, I heard Greta Van Susteren is one, Kistie alley, Travolta and his wife, anyone else we should be aware of?


56 posted on 03/13/2005 10:03:30 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Mayor of Jesusland)
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To: Republic
Its adherents don't worship a deity or pray.

I think, after you have given them at least 100,000 dollars, you get a ride on the yacht and it's revealed to you that thy worship Kali, the Indian god of destruction. This is what I've heard anyway

57 posted on 03/13/2005 10:06:48 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Mayor of Jesusland)
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I just ache for Clearwater. To learn as I did today that it is virtually taken over by this cult, that the majority of its downtown is owned by this money grabbing, freakish cult that does not believe in psychiatric counseling or in GOD, that charges horrendous fees and proposes that those who are non productive in society are best alienated, and if mentally disable, helped to die because 'THEY, the disabled, deep down, WISH TO DIE'.....

I am sick.

Hubbard states that it is a priority to infiltrate the government, become the community leaders, become the judiciary....and at that time, the highest potential is reached.

I will never go to CLearwater again.

58 posted on 03/13/2005 10:12:38 AM PST by Republic (My life support tonight-a carb lite beer and brie.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
There are also any number of Scientology organizations that will totally deny any connections to the Church.

I KNOW these to be Church controlled:

CCHR - Cittizens Commission on Human Rights www.psychassault.org and others
CREO - Commity to Reinvolve Ex Offenders
Apple Schools
Narconon
FASE - Foundation for Advancements in Science and Education, makes videos for PBS and public schools

I don't KNOW if these are Church supported, but they have the Church 'look and feel':

A.S.P.I.R.E - The Alliance to STOP Psychiatry's Influence on Religion Education.
Psych Drug Truth - http://www.prozactruth.com/ - The word 'Psych' and the tag line "Slavery Of Mankind By Psychiatry Is NOT An Option." are dead give aways.

Probably a whole bunch more, but I don't have the time to dig them up right now...

59 posted on 03/13/2005 10:21:22 AM PST by null and void
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To: null and void

Narconon definitely is. they are also allowed in schools in some states to preach, go figure


60 posted on 03/13/2005 10:24:01 AM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Mayor of Jesusland)
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