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Scientology, The Clearwater Bar Association and Judge Greer
Libertytothecaptives.net ^ | 7/24/04 edited 2/4/05 | Unknown

Posted on 03/12/2005 11:02:46 PM PST by Dixielander

Scientology, The Clearwater Bar Association, and Judge Greer

Judge George W. Greer presides over Florida's Sixth Judicial Circuit Court. He is known internationally for the Terri Schindler Schiavo guardianship case. Pat Anderson, former attorney for the Schindlers, characterized Judge Greer's unprecedented rulings as "The Rule of Terri's Case."

The Clearwater Bar Association is delighted with Judge Greer's performance in this particular case. They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge on May 15, 2004. This prestigious award, which is the Clearwater bar's highest honor for a judge, was granted to Judge Greer for the way he has handled himself while overseeing the Terri Schiavo case!

Robert Dickinson III, the outgoing president of the Clearwater Bar Association, cited Judge Greer's handling of the Terri Schiavo case in terms of "passing the test":

"Rarely is a person's mettle and faith tested in such a strenuous and public way as this gentleman's has been over the last few years," Robert Dickinson III said. "Rarely do mortals pass the test with such flying colors."

(Quote source: Lawyers laud judge in Schiavo case) [bold emphasis added]

I find these words rather ominous when I reflect on "the test" Judge Greer has been passing—all these years. Judge Greer's consistent practice of upholding Scientology doctrines over and above Florida law is being lauded by the Clearwater Bar Association! The "test" Robert Dickenson III is alluding to is the "test case." The euthanasia test case.

Greer is "passing the test" with flying colors because he is permitting Michael Schiavo to abuse, exploit and neglect his disabled wife in defiance of the Florida statues. And the Clearwater Bar Association cheers.

Scientology attorney Wally Pope—who represented his "church" in the Lisa McPherson case—was the individual selected to bestow this high honor on Judge Greer! Wally cited high ideals, personal character, and judicial competence:

"Yet, in the teeth of all that, he has steadfastly demonstrated exactly what the John U. Bird award was created to honor: high ideals, personal character, judicial competence and service," lawyer Wally Pope said before bestowing the honor.

(Quote source: Lawyers laud judge in Schiavo case) [bold emphasis added]

The "judicial competence" that Judge Greer has exhibited in his handling of the Terri Schiavo case is clearly the kind that ignores evidence and even Florida statutes in order to uphold Scientology doctrine—which requires the deletion of "social contagions" (the disabled) from society. It is no coincidence that a Scientology attorney—who was a lead attorney in the Lisa McPherson case—personally bestowed this award to Judge Greer. Greer's decisions to consistently rule in favor of terminating a disabled person do reflect high ideals—in the sight of Scientology.

Lies to Make Terri Schiavo Fit the Scientology Mold

One of Scientology's major goals is to change society's views about death, dying, and those L. Ron Hubbard considered to be "past the half-way point": the disabled.

Scientologists believe (1) that a disabled person is in such a state due to his or her own failings, (2) the disabled person will deliberately move in the direction of death, and (3) disabled people (Individuals who score low on the emotional tone scale) will also bring death to those around them. (See L. Ron Hubbard's book, Self Analysis, chapter 4)

Scientology teaches that if a person is disabled it is his or her fault. Terri has been falsely represented as being disabled due to self-induced vomiting which supposedly caused a potassium imbalance that resulted in a cardiac arrest. Medical records have disproved these claims, but these "facts" were presented in the court record and are still being promulgated via the media today. The truth is that Terri suffered serious injuries, (including a head and neck injury and numerous broken bones). An exceptionally competent neurologist testified (that Michael Schiavo's attorneys predictably attempted to discredit) stated that Terri's injuries are consistent with strangulation:

Dr. William Hammesfahr, Nobel prize nominee and neurologist, testified that Terri's neck injuries are consistent with only one type of injury: that of strangulation.

(Quote source: State-Funded Agency to Probe Claim of Spousal Abuse in Terri Schiavo Case)

The only person in the apartment with Terri at the time of her collapse was her husband, Michael Schiavo.

Scientology teaches that a disabled person will move in the direction of death. Terri has been illegally denied therapy for over ten years for the purpose of causing her abilities and health to deteriorate. She has also been placed in hospice facilities—and denied any stimulation— rather than in a nursing home. This was done to create the illusion that Terri is moving in the direction of death. According to L. Ron Hubbard's doctrines, a disabled person wants to die. Michael Schiavo never misses an opportunity to state that death is "Terri's wish." This is not true. Terri wants to live so much that she exerts tremendous effort to demonstrate her abilities.

Scientology teaches that disabled persons (Individuals who score low on the tone scale) will also bring death to those around them. Michael is so worried that Terri will bring "death" to him (accusations of attempted murder?) that he refuses to allow her to have speech therapy—or any therapy. Of course Michael's power to keep Terri in a state of disability is contingent upon Judge Greer's continued collusion with the Scientology agenda, which is not in accordance with Florida laws.

The Clearwater Bar Association: Cozy with Scientology

Mike Faehner, who was president-elect of the Clearwater Bar Association in 2001, endorsed the Johnson Blakely Pope Bokor Ruppel & Burns PA. firm:

"In the legal community, they have a good reputation," said Mike Faehner, president-elect of the Clearwater Bar Association. "They do quite a bit of legal educational outreach. They're a solid law firm."

(Quote source: Clearwater firm breaks from standing tradition)

This firm brings in a lot of money by litigating for the "Church" of Scientology:

Their clients include parents involved in a baby swap, a woman who was not allowed to dress after she was arrested for skinny-dipping, the controversial Church of Scientology and developers who have changed the landscape of Clearwater.

(Quote source: Clearwater firm breaks from standing tradition) [bold emphasis added]

It is probable that Scientology attorneys are on the board and/or are officers of the Clearwater Bar Association! Mike Faehner said:

Many Johnson Blakely lawyers have been board members or officers in the association. The firm also sponsors bar activities, he said.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the Clearwater Bar Association is on cozy terms with the "Church" of Scientology. They choose to have their monthly meetings at the Fort Harrison Hotel—Scientology headquarters. (See: Res Ipsa Loquitur) The Clearwater bar gladly endorses firms that litigate for Scientology. They even chose a Scientology attorney to present an award to Judge Greer for "passing the test" in the way he handled the Terri Schiavo case.

Scientology For Euthanasia; Florida Law Against it

Wally Pope represented the "Church" of Scientology in the wrongful death suit filed by the Estate of Lisa McPherson. He fought to enable Scientology to completely get away with dehydrating Lisa McPherson to death. They did not succeed. They settled with the Lisa McPherson Trust!

Judge Greer's rulings have enabled Michael Schiavo (working on behalf of the Scientology agenda) to almost get away with dehydrating Terri Schiavo to death. The only reason this did not happen is because many Americans—once they saw the videos of Terri that Mr. Schindler bravely released to the media—made it known they would not stand for such evil in our society.

It is time to take a stand against this barbarism once again. Disabled citizens of the United States of America (including Terri Schindler Schiavo of Clearwater, Florida) must not be denied therapy and even life itself due to L. Ron Hubbard's disgust over the fact that a decent society takes care of its own:

Society, the bulk of which is bent upon survival, fails or refuses to recognize death or the urge of organisms toward it. Society passes laws against murder and suicide. Society provides hospitals. Society carries such people [the disabled] on its back. And society will not hear of euthanasia or "mercy killing." (Self Analysis by L. Ron Hubbard; pg. 28)

May the Lord Jesus Christ be glorified as his people "hear his voice" concerning this matter and follow him.

Gary and Lisa Ruby

link to: Judge In Schiavo Case Failed To Legally Qualify For Office; Discharge Mandated

Petition to impeach Judge Greer --Judge Greer has violated Florida statutes and the Judicial Code of Ethics in order to go along with Scientology ethics.

Also see: Scientology and Terri Schindler Schiavo: The Death Connection

In Keeping With Scientology Doctrine, Michael Schiavo Removed Terri From Society

Keeping Terri Disabled: Michael's Illegal Pretext to Kill

7/28/04

edited 02/04/05


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1 posted on 03/12/2005 11:02:47 PM PST by Dixielander
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To: ruoflaw; floriduh voter

ping


2 posted on 03/12/2005 11:04:32 PM PST by Dixielander
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To: Dixielander

The formatting is a little strange, but I appreciate your posting this. Very interesting.


3 posted on 03/12/2005 11:14:55 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Dixielander; bourbon

"The Clearwater Bar Association: Cozy with Scientology" ping!

Thanks for the post.
It's very interesting.


4 posted on 03/12/2005 11:17:52 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: Dixielander

Thanks for this post. Needed to know this.


5 posted on 03/12/2005 11:18:14 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; St. Johann Tetzel; DaveTesla; 26lemoncharlie; mercygrace; ...

Moral Absolutes ping.

Very interesting article connecting Judge Greer, Michael Schiavo and the evil cult of Scientology. I didn't see Felos' name; I wonder if he is connected with L.Ron Hubbard's science fiction "religion" as well.

I have a very good friend whose parents were heavily into Scientology. She was thrown out of the house at age 15 because she wouldn't go along with the program. Recently, when her 5 year old child developed a rare bone disease, her mother told her that it was her fault the child is disabled. The Scientology way - no compassion.

BTW, Hubbard's stated mentor was Alastair Crowley, the noted black "witch" Satan worshipper and homosexual child molester.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


6 posted on 03/12/2005 11:19:46 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Dixielander
"passing the test" Keeping faithful to satan.
7 posted on 03/12/2005 11:30:18 PM PST by Free_at_last_-2001 (is clinton in jail yet?)
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To: seamole

It's noteworthy that those who are cheerleaders for one evil are usually proponents of a host of other evils.

And often those who are on the side of virtue in one area will be on the side of light generally.

Those who love darkness love all evil. They love death, since they hate the source of life. They can't create, so out of envy they want to destroy what God has created. Their support for stem cell "research" is just what you said it is - cannibalism. They could give a rip about healing; they just like it because it's more death.


10 posted on 03/12/2005 11:48:49 PM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Dixielander

Thank You


11 posted on 03/12/2005 11:52:26 PM PST by Orlando (Fatima, Save St.Theresa of Clearwater)
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To: Orlando

I cannot believe the garbage and innuendo in the above article. It's guilt by alleged association at its worst. Talk about a stretch. A lawyer is given an award by another lawyer who may be affiliated in some manner w/Scientology (of course how is not explained), and therefore the lawyer himself (Greer) is somehow affiliated with Scientology too? This is nutz. Greer is a Lutheran, not a Scientologist. The leaps in logic necessary to try to make some connection with the Schiavo case and Scientology is absolutely astounding. The Schiavo supporters will go to the ends of the earth with lies, illogic, innuendo, irrationality, insults and name-calling to achieve their end. The continual and patent falsehoods put forth in the Schiavo cause are astounding. It's all based on emotion, just like that which Pubs accuse Dems of acting upon. This is really scary in its implications. It's just like the communists, any means to an end. Some of you people really need to get a grip here consider a little introspection, and start basing your arguments on facts, not fiction, not things you make up to advance your cause, not outright lies. May you people never get any serious control within the Republican Party.


12 posted on 03/13/2005 12:13:25 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: Dixielander
They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge

Sounds more like the Rosemary Bird Award.

13 posted on 03/13/2005 12:16:48 AM PST by Salvey
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To: flaglady47

Since when has Greer become a Lutheran? In a recent interview with William Levesque of the St. Petersburg Times Greer said he was a member of the Calvary Baptist Church in Clearwater, but has stopped attending because of a negative article appearing in a Baptist publication that his church suported. Greer said he also has other issues with Calvary and no longer donates. If I were a member of Calvary Baptist Church, I'd say "good riddance."


14 posted on 03/13/2005 12:54:55 AM PST by Dixielander
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To: flaglady47
Ooops. Too late!
15 posted on 03/13/2005 12:58:48 AM PST by mellyK
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To: flaglady47
Why all the bitterness about this discussion? Your post: "...supporters will go to the ends of the earth with lies, illogic, innuendo, irrationality, insults and name-calling", (supporters should)"...start basing your arguments on facts, not fiction, not things you make up to advance your cause, not outright lies". IMO, lowering the rhetoric might be a place to start. I am trying to understand the issue, Euthanasia, as manifested in this FL-Schiavo case. Certainly an emotional issue, but I don't understand the necessity of these flame-wars.
After reading your recent responses, I suggest and I am curious to read your arguments based on facts.
16 posted on 03/13/2005 12:59:42 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero.)
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To: Dixielander

This looks like the usual legal incest in the so called legal community. The Scientology connection is appalling. I have no use for that cult..... all kinds of stuff on the internet about L Ron's explorations of drugs, Satanism and black magic back in the 1950s in Los Angeles.


http://www.orlingrabbe.com/Jpar7.htm

http://www.orlingrabbe.com/jack_parsons.htm


17 posted on 03/13/2005 1:10:11 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: little jeremiah
Alastair Crowley, the noted black "witch" Satan worshipper and homosexual child molester.

SCOTUS is making all of these activities constitutionally protected based upon nonexistent emanating penumbras. I wouldn't be surprised in the least to discover David Souter is a fan of Crowley too.

18 posted on 03/13/2005 1:10:47 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Dixielander

"They presented the John U. Bird award to the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit judge on May 15, 2004. This prestigious award, which is the Clearwater bar's highest honor for a judge, was granted to Judge Greer for the way he has handled himself while overseeing the Terri Schiavo case!"

To counter this, I've awarded "Judge" Greer the prestigious 'Chuck U Farley' award for the way he has handled the Terri Schiavo case...


19 posted on 03/13/2005 1:13:34 AM PST by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: flaglady47

LOL You need to get a grip. Thanks for posting a bucketful of blather


20 posted on 03/13/2005 1:18:20 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: peyton randolph; dennisw

I've been wondering myself if Greer is somehow tied in with a Satanic cult practicing all sorts of atrocities. It would not surprise me at all if he is.


21 posted on 03/13/2005 1:20:31 AM PST by Dixielander
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To: dennisw

Interesting links!


22 posted on 03/13/2005 1:24:26 AM PST by Dixielander
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To: Dixielander
I've been wondering myself if Greer is somehow tied in with a Satanic cult practicing all sorts of atrocities. It would not surprise me at all if he is.

He doesn't have to be and he probably isn't. You can unwittingly do the devil's bidding and be a stone cold scientific atheist. You can be an agent for dark forces just on an informal basis. And I don't mean Scientology.

23 posted on 03/13/2005 1:25:00 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Dixielander

The Jack Parsons JPL story with it's Satanism, drugs use and L Ron Hubbard connection has been on the internet for years. My suspicion is it's not in print because it would be easier for those Clearwater scum (Scientology) would have a fixed target to sue.


24 posted on 03/13/2005 1:28:15 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Dixielander
Rarely is a person's mettle and faith tested in such a strenuous and public way as this gentleman's has been over the last few years," Robert Dickinson III said. "Rarely do mortals pass the test with such flying colors

I think i am goingto go puke now

25 posted on 03/13/2005 1:37:31 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: dennisw

"You need to get a grip."

I may need to get a grip, but you've already lost yours.


26 posted on 03/13/2005 1:52:46 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47

Don't bother me.


27 posted on 03/13/2005 1:56:19 AM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Dixielander

Since when has Greer become a Lutheran?

Whoops, it's late. Meant to say Baptist. It's Michael Schiavo that is the Lutheran.


28 posted on 03/13/2005 1:56:49 AM PST by flaglady47
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To: flaglady47
Talk about a stretch. A lawyer is given an award by another lawyer who may be affiliated in some manner w/Scientology (of course how is not explained), and therefore the lawyer himself (Greer) is somehow affiliated with Scientology too? This is nutz. Greer is a Lutheran, not a Scientologist. The leaps in logic necessary to try to make some connection with the Schiavo case and Scientology is absolutely astounding.

I agree. It's guilt by innuendo. This kind of thing only serves the person who invented it, and could harm the cause of Terri Shiavo.

There's no good reason to publish this slander.

29 posted on 03/13/2005 4:25:55 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: GVgirl; flaglady47

Any connection to scientology ladies?...


30 posted on 03/13/2005 4:33:42 AM PST by loveitor.. ("I will leave with the greatest love for this country of ours..." Ronald Reagan)
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To: loveitor..

No. You?


31 posted on 03/13/2005 4:34:11 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: dennisw

What is simply amazing is that people would follow a religion dreamed up by a person known for writing fiction. His Battlefield Earth series is a long story of deception,violence,drug use,and even the "hero" casually kills with only mild regrets. At best,his science fiction is B grade, not surprised his invented religion is no better.


32 posted on 03/13/2005 5:30:06 AM PST by hoosierham
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To: Dixielander

Scientology crackpots Bump.


33 posted on 03/13/2005 5:48:08 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Dixielander
I did a bit of searching on the primary source you found the article on. There is another report that is even more distrubing.

Significant Dates in Terri's Case: Occult/Satanic Connections

As for myself, I believe that Satanism is flourishing in Bar Associations all over the U.S.

34 posted on 03/13/2005 6:13:37 AM PST by ex-Texan (Mathew 7:1 through 6)
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To: Dixielander
I went to the website and sniffed around. It stinks. Terri's cause isn't helped by such as this.

Won't give examples, but anyone who goes to the site won't need more than five minutes to come to the same conclusion I did.

35 posted on 03/13/2005 6:38:21 AM PST by Graymatter
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To: peyton randolph

I'm sure he is on the same road, at least theoretically. After all, unprotected minorty religions and all that.


36 posted on 03/13/2005 8:25:33 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: dennisw

Actually, anyone who rejects serving God and wants to be the supreme independent agent is by default serving that which is not benificent. Just exactly how non-benificent depends on the individual and what they are influenced by.


37 posted on 03/13/2005 8:29:05 AM PST by little jeremiah (Resisting evil is our duty or we are as responsible as those promoting it)
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To: Dixielander

NOW I am ashamed that I was ever a member of that cult.


38 posted on 03/13/2005 8:31:26 AM PST by null and void
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To: flaglady47

Where are you on lines?


39 posted on 03/13/2005 8:33:05 AM PST by null and void
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To: little jeremiah; Dixielander
"Rarely is a person's mettle and faith tested in such a strenuous and public way as this gentleman's has been over the last few years," Robert Dickinson III said. "Rarely do mortals pass the test with such flying colors."

I agree. It must be taxing to be so thoroughly evil.

BTW, Hubbard's stated mentor was Alastair Crowley, the noted black "witch" Satan worshipper and homosexual child molester.

Great. Now I have that Black Sabbath song running through my head..."Oh Mr. Crowley, do you talk to the dead..."

I have no idea about the principles of Scientology, but I'm interested in learning. I wouldn't mind being on your ping list, so please add me :)

40 posted on 03/13/2005 8:44:57 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Dixielander

mark for later


41 posted on 03/13/2005 8:48:00 AM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: flaglady47

I wasn't familiar with your screen name, so I checked out your home page. After reading your reply to this thread, I think I know who your sister is.


42 posted on 03/13/2005 8:49:12 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

As a former member, I'd be happy to answer any questions, either in public or via FReepmail


43 posted on 03/13/2005 8:52:56 AM PST by null and void
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To: Dixielander

Florida is still too dangerous to even drive through, much less visit for vacation or plan to live there.


44 posted on 03/13/2005 9:00:22 AM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: null and void

Thanks, I appreciate it. Are there any websites that outline their beliefs? I recall that Tom Cruise is involved with them. There was some criticism about Scientology, and that it led to his divorce to Nicole Kidman. Before I respond to the main points of the posted article, I should know what I'm talking about ;)


45 posted on 03/13/2005 9:16:33 AM PST by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: Awestruck

LOL

Very good. Much better than what I had it mind.


47 posted on 03/13/2005 9:19:49 AM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: flaglady47

Thank you for saying this. I'm just tired of trying to bring a little bit of common sense to these boards. They are positively hateful. And, I may add, without any compassion towards anyone but the woman in the PVS condition. And I disagree with their idea of "compassion" on that one too.


48 posted on 03/13/2005 9:20:07 AM PST by Hildy
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To: TheSpottedOwl
For the Anti view try here:

Operation Clambake - The Inner Secrets Of Scientology Major anti Scientology site, with extensive news articles, analyses, and criticism of the alleged Scientology cult, Dianetics, and L. Ron Hubbard, ...
www.xenu.net

49 posted on 03/13/2005 9:40:44 AM PST by null and void
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To: TheSpottedOwl
For Pro go here:

Scientology - Official Church of Scientology Site
The official site of the Church of Scientology. Offers video and audio presentations, as well as virtual tours of churches.
www.scientology.org

50 posted on 03/13/2005 9:43:56 AM PST by null and void
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