Short Strand 'Has Had Enough Of SF' (More Sinn Fein/IRA Implosion)

News Letter ^ | 3rd March 2005 | David Young

[free_european]

Short Strand 'Has Had Enough Of SF' By David Young

Thursday 3rd March 2005

Angry residents of Belfast's republican Short Strand are disillusioned with Sinn Fein and are turning to unionist politicians for advice, it has been claimed.

The DUP's Sammy Wilson and senior Ulster Unionist Sir Reg Empey say many people from the area have contacted them in the wake of local man Robert McCartney's murder, allegedly at the hands of the IRA.

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Anti-Sinn Fein and IRA graffiti has been daubed on walls in staunchly republican areas since the 33-yearold's murder outside Magennis's pub in Belfast city centre on January 30.

[free_european]

Keeps getting better and better

[PAR35]

I haven't heard much from the pro-IRA crowd on FR lately. I even pinged them to one thread, but they didn't bother to respond. They seem to be trying to keep a low profile.

[Cicero]

Permit me to doubt it. The Ulster Unionists are just as bad as the IRA, if not worse. The reputation of the IRA may have been seriously damaged among Northern Ireland's Catholics, but these Catholics are hardly going to turn to the Protestant extremists for support. Nor would they be welcomed if they did.

[free_european]

In what way, exactly, is the Ulster Unionist Party "just as bad as the IRA"?

Do they have a private army: no. Do they control heroin sales: no. Are they Marxists: no. Do they help the FARC: no. Do they carry out punishment beatings and knee cappings: no.

It may be that you are mixing up the Ulster Unionst Party with unrelated protestant terror groups like the UDA or the UVF, if not then Im afraid youve listened to far to much Sinn Fein/IRA propaganda

[Bigs from the North]

being irish catholic myself, I am not supporting either side in this. They are both violent groups filled with pathologically violent people, most of which have no idea of the basis of the fight and keep it up solely for violences sake. Nothing can be gained with further violence on either side. this has boiled down to violence for violence sake. Sinn Fein has no moral ground to stand on when they do not stop the IRA from doing stupid things.

Nothing, i repeat nothing can change what was done in Ireland in the past. but i dare any support on either side to present a rational reason to continue the violence.

How many children under 10 have been killed in the last 30 years? Do the big tough men, most of them too gutless to act publicly, feel vindicated in killing young children? How about the elderly? those that want nothing to do with either side?

A pox on both their houses, and a burning place in hell for all of them. An that includes any one that supports them.

[ConservativeDude]

I wonder if you will get a response to your previous post?

It is a coward's way out to just say "they are all bad".

Some no doubt said that during the Cold War. Problem is that there was only one Evil Empire and it wasn't the U.S.

While condemning the UDA/UVF, it is good to point out that the UUP and DUP are NOT the equivalent of Sinn Fein/IRA.

[free_european]

I'm not holding my breath.

[Cicero]

The Sinn Fein has always held itself apart from the IRA, in theory at least. One is the politicians, the other is the gunmen.

I think much the same is true of the Ulster Unionists.

[free_european]

Nope; youre wrong on both counts.

Firstly: Adams - Sinn Fein president was IRA commandant in Long Kesh and an IRA leader in Belfast while his number too Marting McGuiness headed up the IRA in Londonderry.

Secondly: Adams, McGuiness and Docherty all are senior Sinn Fein politicos and all sit on the IRA Army Council. According to the heads of the PSNA and the Irish Garda as well as the Irish and British PMs Sinn Fein politicos planned the latest IRA bank robbery.

Thirdly, the Ulster Unionist Party and the Democratic Unionist Party are not the political wings of the protestant terrorists. The *Ulster Democratic Party* was the political wing of the UDA and the *Progressive Unionist Party* was that of the UVF. These are both (unlike Sinn Fein/IRA fringe parties). There are no links between the Ulster Unionsts and the Democratic Unionsts and protestant terrorists - in fact the terrorists hold these parties in contempt.

[slane]

Well stated.

I would add that the nationalist equivalent of the Ulster Unionist Party is the SDLP, a legitimate political party without a terrorist army at its back.