[Pendragon_6]

the neo-communist, left-wing liberal insurgency's latest attack on our military

[One Proud Son]

They forget it was originally HIS choice to join before the brainwashers got a hold of him.

[mrs tiggywinkle]

How is this group getting names of recruits? Is recruitment information open to the public?

Are high school and college campuses allowing Vets for Peace to speak but shutting the door on Military Recruiters?

[Samurai_Jack]

Is that even Legal?

[jdege]

What, exactly, is "sedition"?

[HolgerDansk]

Same old military stereotypes from the American Left: that military recruits "are the refuse of society, too poor and too stupid to do anything else". How sad, but then ignorance is the hallmark of modern liberalism.

[68skylark]

This is a strange story. Every day I get more informed about the left, their tactics and their goals.

[armymarinemom]

Veterans for Peace has been working at getting into the schools up here in Maine to counter recruiting in the guidance office of the schools. What kind of people are these folks? When they took over the Senators office in Bangor they wore adult diapers in order to have the ability to stay in the office for a prolonged period of time.

[68skylark]

Eric Peters is an anti-war organizer in Chicago.... He says some administrators think counter-recruiters are unpatriotic....

LOL! What could give them that idea??

[5Madman2]

When I was recruiting, the counter-recruiters were called Guidance Counselors

They talked more kids out of careers in the military and into the fast food industry than I care to think about

[armyman]

Everyday the left sinks to new lows to undermine the military.

some military recruiters make promises they can't guarantee, such as money for college or training in a particular specialty, and give misleading descriptions of military life.

So what if recuruiters do this? Car salesmen, real estate agenst, and most other salesmen say untrue stuff to sell their product too, and no one calls them and makes an "Anti" group against them.

Murphy helped convince him that he could go to college to pursue his interest in criminal justice, and that there was no guarantee he'd get his request for assignment to military police. For another, he's worried about combat in Iraq.

Worried about combat in Iraq!!?? Why was he going to join the military if he was worried about combat duty? That's why you join the military, to defend this country.


If I saw these counter-recuriters I would have an incredible urge to beat the living crap out of them for what they are doing.

[Steel Wolf]

How insane. To a certain extent I'm all for it.

Joining the military is a lot like getting married. If you can be talked out of it, then it's probably best you are talked out of it.

Especially people that want to join for the college money or some other selfish reason. I'd rather work with less people who's motives I can trust, than have to drag in mercenaries to fill slots.

Perhaps at some point, we'll be able to drop all the PC social engineering crap and work on the real problems that are so detrimental to retention, and let the military be a warrior culture again. Until then, I hope these counter recruiters keep those that can be talked out of defending their country out of the services.

[Mike Darancette]

Jim Murphy is a "counter-recruiter," one of a small but growing number of opponents of the Iraq war who say they want to compete with military recruiters for the hearts and minds of young people

Who pays these people>

[Saberwielder]

To be honest, anyone who can be talked out of joining the military by a group of leftist weirdos is perhaps better left outside our military. Much of the whining of late is due to these type anyway.

[jpl]

These "counter-recruiters" are real morons. They're trying to take down our all-volunteer military, and all this would accomplish would be to force the government to bring back the draft once again. Do these fools really believe that they're going to do away with the American military?

[longtermmemmory]

Perhaps there out to be a distance protection ala time place and manner. If they can restrict/protect abortion clinic speech, or hunters, or any other number of groups then recruiters must have the same protection.

If anything this is really clear giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

[FreeRep]

While we are fighting terrorists within and abroad, they are the modern-day equivalent of the German-American Bund.

[ryan71]

If a recruit can be talked out of joining by some patchouli oil smelling, sandal wearing commie I say let them go!

We don't need them!

It's a weeding out process.

Give us THE FEW...THE PROUD!

[Drew68]

But McCullough had signed up for the Delayed Entry Program, which the Marines told him was a binding commitment, and which Murphy told him was not.

When I enlisted, I was told that while in DEP status I was subject to the UCMJ! This was complete BS. When I shipped out from MEPS to bootcamp I had to re-swear in. Why? Because I was told it didn't really count the first time when I signed up.

Ahhh... the things a recruiter will tell you!

[Charlespg]

why cant congress enforce the treason and sedition laws?

[USAFJeeper]

Funny. When I joined the USAF in 1983 I had a gauranteed job (computer programmer) and a sucky education program (VEAP) Thank goodness I was able to convert it to MGIB! 22 years later as a retiree I got an education, a lifetime of experiences, friends all over the country and world.

Most of the young guys in the USAF now achieve at least an Associate degree before leaving in 4. I may have to volunteer to help out recruiters around here!