Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Mr. K
Anyone at mac have a clue why Macs (with their superior software) never topped PC's? No, they probably still dont

Pardon your ignorance and bigotry.

Two guys built a desktop computer in a garage. IBM needed to compete with two guys in a garage.

IBM found Paul Allen and Bill Gates ready to take their money for a disk operating system, which neither wrote. IBM had a very open door with the government.

Surprisingly, the Gum't decided to do business with IBM, for desktop computers, rather than two guys in a garage. IBM offered WordPerpect and uniformity. Of course, if you wanted to do bizness with the gum't, you gotta pay IBM... and Bill Gates.

Bill Gates wanted a graphic interface. Bill Gates couldn't make his Windows emulation, of the Mac interface, work, so he copied Apple's copy of Xerox's graphic interface. He was sued successfully by Apple, for copyright infringement and subsequently bought 20% of Apple.

I have a stable operating system, on a G5 desktop, a G4 desktop, a g4 PowerBook, and a G3 PowerBook (circa 1999). I use a wireless system, and a wireless Airport Extreme system for nework and interent use.

Apple Computers costs more, so friggin' what. It sure gives you a lot more than the Gates-worshipping community seems to get. At least it works right out of the box, and you only need know how to plug it in...

I had a home network, using the Appletalk system, back in the 80's, when most PC folk were still worshipping IBM, and looking a a gren or amber screen with C > staring at them waitng for the magic words. I used my mouse...

I had a Mac computer that hooked to ethernet naturally, and modems intuitively, for the last twenty+ years. My kids have grown up with them, in school, and at home. The DOS guys always brag about their power and speed, like a bunch of 17 yr old football players, and talk about their build-it-yourself stuff. We Mac guys just keep on using our old and introduce new computers with our old and new systems intermingled. It works for me, and most others in the Mac community.

We don't worship Mac or Apple (though I do appreciate the recent stock split, and the rise in stock prices over the last year+. I made a good chunk of retirement money), we just use them everyday, like the rest of our appliances!

iPod anyone?


103 posted on 03/08/2005 2:42:45 PM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies ]


To: pageonetoo
Two guys built a desktop computer in a garage. IBM needed to compete with two guys in a garage.

And IBM did so with off-the-shelf parts.

IBM found Paul Allen and Bill Gates ready to take their money for a disk operating system, which neither wrote.

Yeah, they paid $50K for it and turned around and made billions. That has to be among the smartest business decisions in history.

IBM had a very open door with the government. Surprisingly, the Gum't decided to do business with IBM, for desktop computers, rather than two guys in a garage.

No wonder. IBM didn't hold a stranglehold on the hardware. It was all COTS stuff. Which led the way for cloners to introduce their own machines. It was a damn smart decision by the feds. Kept their costs lower than Jobs and Woz could offer.

IBM offered WordPerpect and uniformity. Of course, if you wanted to do bizness with the gum't, you gotta pay IBM... and Bill Gates.

Jobs tried to get into the business market -- but failed miserably and ended up focusing on the "education market".

Bill Gates wanted a graphic interface. Bill Gates couldn't make his Windows emulation, of the Mac interface, work, so he copied Apple's copy of Xerox's graphic interface. He was sued successfully by Apple, for copyright infringement and subsequently bought 20% of Apple.

This is just wrong. Apple didn't prevail on the copyright infringement issue. In fact, the court found for Microsoft. But Microsoft and Apple realized that there were enough cross-licensing problems with the GUIs that it made more sense to settle.

I have a stable operating system, on a G5 desktop, a G4 desktop, a g4 PowerBook, and a G3 PowerBook (circa 1999). I use a wireless system, and a wireless Airport Extreme system for nework and interent use.

Congratulations. So do millions upon millions of Windows XP users...

Apple Computers costs more, so friggin' what. It sure gives you a lot more than the Gates-worshipping community seems to get. At least it works right out of the box, and you only need know how to plug it in...

You're comparing apples and oranges. If you pay more, you would expect to get more. Duh.

I had a home network, using the Appletalk system, back in the 80's, when most PC folk were still worshipping IBM, and looking a a gren or amber screen with C > staring at them waitng for the magic words. I used my mouse...

Meanwhile, Novell was busy kicking Apple's ass in the network market.
126 posted on 03/08/2005 5:51:40 PM PST by Bush2000
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

To: pageonetoo
Two guys built a desktop computer in a garage. IBM needed to compete with two guys in a garage.

Close. IBM wanted to enter the microcomputer market. The Apple II was the model for the open architecture computer. IBM made a better Apple II and then Apple abandoned the open architecture model and embraced the closed-world, one-company one-computer one-fuhrer 1984 model and has been losing market share ever since. Until IBM came on the seen, microcomputers were not viable in the office and had very little presence

IBM found Paul Allen and Bill Gates ready to take their money for a disk operating system, which neither wrote.

Close. IBM was planning on using Digital Research's CP/M but DR decided to jerk IBM around because they thought they were the only game in town. A young upstart company that had a history of buying products and making them better was chosen.

Surprisingly, the Gum't decided to do business with IBM, for desktop computers, rather than two guys in a garage.

Nonsense. Apple was not in the running for business computers and the government was slow to embrace the Microcomputer. Mainframes (and terminals) along with Word Processors (minicomputers) were dominate in the government until the later 1980's. The Apple II was never in the running and the Mac missed the market. I worked at DOE during the heyday of the Mac (late 1980's) and I never once saw a Mac.

He was sued successfully by Apple, for copyright infringement and subsequently bought 20% of Apple.

BS. Apple LOST its copyright infringement lawsuit in 1994. Microsoft invested 150M in Apple in 1997. I guess we have entered Mac-Fantasyland

What Apple stole from Microsoft: tabbed dialogs, the OS x dock is a ripoff of the Windows task bar.

143 posted on 03/08/2005 7:14:32 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

To: pageonetoo
He was sued successfully by Apple, for copyright infringement and subsequently bought 20% of Apple.

I have to disagree with your history report. Apple eventually lost that suit because of a technically ignorant judge. The Microsoft investment in Apple was at the time a little over 4% of the value of the outstanding Apple stock. The stock purchased was non-voting. At no time did Microsoft own "20%" of Apple.

Oh, Xerox licensed its GUI ideas to Apple. Some still think they were "stolen."

174 posted on 03/08/2005 10:11:22 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline now open, please ring bell.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

To: pageonetoo

"Two guys built a desktop computer in a garage. IBM needed to compete with two guys in a garage."

Give me a break. That was 27 years ago. Apple has been out of the garage for a generation. IBM is a small player in the PC market along with lots of others.

Apple chose to remain proprietary and IBM did not. The rest is history. A PC is a commodity, not a brand. Compatibility and portability are the most important factors when choosing the platform.

It doesn't matter if Mac is better (and I don't think it is). The PC won that war. There may be a new war and Apple may be a player, but I doubt it. Linux may eventually replace Windows, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

I predict that all three platforms will continue for the foreseeable future.


920 posted on 03/16/2005 9:36:18 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson