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'But as an American . . .' (jon Stewart update)
WSJ Online ^ | 3/2/05 | James Taranto

Posted on 03/02/2005 8:56:30 AM PST by pissant

We hardly ever watch Comedy Central's "The Daily Show With Jon Stewart," but our TV happened to be tuned to it last night when erstwhile Clinton aide Nancy Soderberg, author of "The Superpower Myth: The Use and Misuse of American Might" (foreword by Bill Clinton, blurb by Madeleine Albright) came on. We're not sure what possessed us to turn on the sound and watch, but we're glad we did, for it was a fascinating interview. Here's a TiVo-assisted transcript of most of it:

Stewart: This book--it talks about the superpower myth of the United States. There is this idea, the United States is the sole superpower, and I guess the premise of the book is we cannot misuse that power--have to use it wisely, and not just punitively. Is that--

Soderberg: That's right. What I argue is that the Bush administration fell hostage to the superpower myth, believing that because we're the most powerful nation on earth, we were all-powerful, could bend the world to our will and not have to worry about the rest of the world. I think what they're finding in the second term is, it's a little bit harder than that, and reality has an annoying way of intruding.

Stewart: But what do you make of--here's my dilemma, if you will. I don't care for the way these guys conduct themselves--and this is just you and I talking, no cameras here [audience laughter]. But boy, when you see the Lebanese take to the streets and all that, and you go, "Oh my God, this is working," and I begin to wonder, is it--is the way that they handled it really--it's sort of like, "Uh, OK, my daddy hits me, but look how tough I'm getting." You know what I mean? ....

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: booktour; clintonistas; dailyshow; hateamerica; hatingamerica; jonstewart; myth; nancysoderberg; oops; soderberg; superpower; thesuperpowermyth
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Is a light bulb flickering in Jon Stewart's thick skull finally?
1 posted on 03/02/2005 8:56:30 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Well even an alcholic sobers up sometime.


2 posted on 03/02/2005 8:59:17 AM PST by marty60
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To: pissant
What I argue is that the Bush administration fell hostage to the superpower myth, believing that because we're the most powerful nation on earth, we were all-powerful, could bend the world to our will and not have to worry about the rest of the world.

So her book is built on the premise that Bush believes that our country is all-powerful.

An idiotic initial assumption leads inevitably to a pointless and idiotic conclusion.

3 posted on 03/02/2005 9:02:40 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: pissant
Its funny. Just the other day I was wondering what happened to Jon Stewart. Before the election, he was everywhere. Now he's all but forgotten.

Jon Steward has been host of the Daily Show since before the 2000 election, but last fall you'd think he was a fresh, newly discovered talent.

I guess we won't hear much of him again until 2008.

4 posted on 03/02/2005 9:03:28 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: pissant
we're the most powerful nation on earth, we were all-powerful, could bend the world to our will and not have to worry about the rest of the world.

What a bozo. Free elections means that people can decide for themselves. None of this "bend the world to our will" garbage.

Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon ... the Left really hates to see freedom move forward. They really think Bush is bad for helping it progress.

5 posted on 03/02/2005 9:06:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: pissant

The entire online article is well worth the read.


6 posted on 03/02/2005 9:08:31 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: pissant
Taranto is right. Stewart did unwittingly manage to mug her in that interview. He forced her to discuss all the reasons history has already proved her just-released book to be worthless.

"Stuck in the back in the discount rack like another can of beans."

7 posted on 03/02/2005 9:09:33 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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I agree - some of the statements that Soderberg makes are just the most vile anti-American vitriol. Hoping that Iran and North Korea prove too difficult for Bush to handle? Obscene.

It must be painful to be completely on the wrong side of history and then to slowly realize it.


8 posted on 03/02/2005 9:13:02 AM PST by warpsmith
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To: pissant
Is a light bulb flickering in Jon Stewart's thick skull finally?

Stewart is an admitted liberal democrat who will begrudgingly concede that amazing world events are taking place under the Bush administration. I give him props for his candor.

It was interesting to watch Soderberg squirm as Stewart alluded to the fact that current events in the Middle East pretty much demolished the premise of her book.

I like Jon Stewart. He is an honest liberal. I watch The Daily Show every morning before work and rarely does a half hour pass where I am not in stitches during at least one joke.

9 posted on 03/02/2005 9:16:45 AM PST by Drew68
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She seems to be the clone of Sarandon.

Ugly hearted, hatefilled anti American.

10 posted on 03/02/2005 9:17:48 AM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: pissant
What the Arab world is starting to understand is that America is not a nation of lucky rich people, they are finally starting to figure out is that we are human beings, just like them, who work DARNED HARD for what we have. Believe it or not that's a shock to them.

They interviewed one of the Iraqis who came over to have his hand replaced and he told the interviewer that he has never seen such hard working people, and people who are so happy working!

11 posted on 03/02/2005 9:18:20 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: pissant

MSNBC uses Soderburg as one of their experts on a variety of topics and I have noted before her propensity to undermine the Bush administration (no surprise, as I knew her background).

Good for Stewart to even question his presumptions and to be aware of what is going on in Lebanon.

Soderburg dismissed it as not related to Iraq and pointedly ignores the Inaugural Speech (speaking of which, anyone heard from Peggy Noonan lately about her "Bush over-reached" critique?).


12 posted on 03/02/2005 9:18:28 AM PST by cyncooper
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Glad I read this. Jon Stewart was subtle, but he nailed this lady. And he got her on air hoping for failure and death for America, just like Ellen Ratner on Fox, "hoping" that enough Americans would die, that President Bush would be defeated.

Yes, I think Jon Stewart "gets it." He may be late to the party, but he has arrived.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "By Dawn's Early Light"

13 posted on 03/02/2005 9:20:08 AM PST by Congressman Billybob ("The truth is out there." Yep, it's on the Internet, but it takes digging, and common sense.)
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To: pissant
During the discussion of democratic yearnings breaking out in the Mid East, there's this telling bit:
Soderberg: There's always hope that this might not work.
Watch out, Nancy, your slip is showing...
14 posted on 03/02/2005 9:21:35 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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Soderberg: Well, there's still Iran and North Korea, don't forget. There's hope for the rest of us.

...

Soderberg: There's always hope that this might not work.

Wow.

Even considering it was a comedy talk show, I can't imagine joking that there's "hope" this won't work. I know the dems really feel that way, but to actually say it. Sloppy, Nancy. Very sloppy. But very good to have it on the record.

15 posted on 03/02/2005 9:22:20 AM PST by cyncooper
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"..(speaking of which, anyone heard from Peggy Noonan lately about her "Bush over-reached" critique?)".
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Peggy should crawl under the bed and hide.


16 posted on 03/02/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

Democrats are the masters of hindsight, because they have their heads up their asses.


17 posted on 03/02/2005 9:23:38 AM PST by RightResponse (What if the Left, just got up and .....)
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To: pissant

Did I read this wrong or is this idiot woman actually rooting for bad things to happen, simply to embarrass the Bush administration?


18 posted on 03/02/2005 9:24:24 AM PST by trubluolyguy ("You think that's tough, try losing a testicle in a knife fight with your mother")
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no, you read it right. She's just repeating John Kerry's platform.


19 posted on 03/02/2005 9:24:57 AM PST by pissant
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Sounds like Soderberg's book is pure ignorance, 9-10 Klinton-era stupidity that directly led to the attack on 9-11.


20 posted on 03/02/2005 9:27:12 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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