Shame On You: The Apple iPod

CBS 2 New York ^ | Arnold Diaz

[finnman69]

Shame On You: The Apple iPod
Battery Replacement Problems Are Creating Problems

Feb 25, 2005 3:00 pm US/Eastern

NEW YORK (CBS) The Apple iPod is one of the most popular consumer electronic products in history. Thus far, 10 million have been sold to music lovers.

But you may be surprised to learn what happens when the battery on the iPod dies.

Our Shame On You team reports that battery replacement problems are making some people irate over the iPod. See why Arnold Diaz puts Apple in the Hall of Shame.

Video at the link

Here: is the link to the movie referrred to at the video story:
http://www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/

[SunkenCiv]

[virtual tickertape parade down the Canyon of Heroes for Musket]

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Maybe there really is a need for prescription drug coverage...

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1149061/posts

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071442/posts

The Plot To Get Bill Gates - Book Excerpt
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[add925]

Right. A fine bunch of Conservatives here! LOL!

Geeks or Liberals? Hmmmmm, sometimes not easy to tell the difference.

Been to both Headquarters....MacApple is MacLiberal

Was it not for Educational/Graphic arts product "placements", Apple would have been gone long ago.

Buy an iPod, help a Lib.

[Melas]

All rechargable batteries wear out, all of them. Even the long lived wet-cell battery in your automobile has a lifespan.

[Melas]

Current rate for battery replacement is under $100. In either event, there is no possible way to make a rechargable battery that doesn't little it's ability to hold a charge, with each subsequent charge.

[Melas]

Problem is that it's a lie. Apple does indeed replace batteries in Ipods.

[Musket]

Was it not for Educational/Graphic arts product "placements", Apple would have been gone long ago.

Right . Quality's got nothing to do with it. Get real.

Buy an iPod, help a Lib.

Are you gonna go through life only buying products made by Conservatives? That's ridiculous. How would you ever know? What if the Boss was conservative and all the employees are libs? See how silly that is?

[Melas]

There are other makers, as well. The i-pod has an enormous advertising budget, but it's not necessarily the best choice, unless you're an Apple fanatic.

I'm a PC guy from the word go. I don't even like Apple, let alone the cult of Macintosh. However, after listening to the Ipod, the Dell Jukebox and the Creative Zen, the choice was clear. Neither the Dell or the Creative player approached the Ipod in sound quality.

[Enterprise]

I just hope that if I decide to buy one of these new music gizmos that all the problems are worked out.

[Melas]

Wrong answer. Your kid can put all the stolen music on his Ipod that he can find room to store. The problem is that your kid can't put songs he's purchased from other services on his Ipod. Itunes and the Ipod doesn't discriminate against non-protected music files that are traded illegally. It's problem is primarly with WMA files with non-Apple digital rights management like those purchased online from Wal-Mart.

[Melas]

Subscription music is probably the wave of the future, but I like ownership.

[k2blader]

Bump for later browse.

[Melas]

When did they do this? My U2 Special Edition Ipod, purchased in December came with both firewire and USB 2.0 cables.

[dinodino]

Er, do you have any experience with Apple products that were manufactured in this century?

[Melas]

$107 every 18 months? Pretty pricey...

We're obviously in different income brackets.

[add925]

I tried searching this thread to see what type of batteries these are....If they are Lithium Ion types, I'm surprised there is a problem.

Some manufacturers will sell product at low margins designed with proprietary batteries only THEY can supply. The accessories, such as batteries, are then REALLY jacked up in price. Also, older generation batteries can be shipped with the product, not the latest technology.

Not saying MacApple is doing this.....but it would not surprise me.

The work-around for this problem is after-market battery suppliers IF they are allowed to manufacture iPod replacements. One way to watch MacApple on this is to see if they go after after-market battery suppliers in court.

If not, google "replacement batteries ipod" and check out the milliamp hour (mA H) ratings. Generally, the larger, the better. Also, Lithium Ion types usually are not known for memory problems.

Maybe some other techno-FReepers can dig into this further. Battery technology changes FAST.

[Musket]

I'm glad you're not blinded by the MS Koolaid. I'm the same way, I prefer Macs - but by no means do they do everything right - and if somebody does something better I'm not afraid to say so.

[Swordmaker]

but it's nothing new for Apple. Back in '87, I bought an (expensive!) Apple IIgs at the end my senior year of high school, and by about (ironically) 18 months later, it wouldn't keep date, time, or other CMOS settings.

My, you DO carry a grudge... First of all, the price in 1987 for your IIgs was only $999... plus $495 for a color monitor. Compare that to the $2495 for a basic PC and $2999 for the Macintosh. The IIgs were built in response to the Amiga 500 ($1295 plus monitor - if I recall correctly) and Atari ST.

As for your complaint about the battery, you have a point... but only on the very first ROM I version which was replaced after only about 3 months.

If your IIgs logic board is ROM 1 (256k), then the battery requires leads, which are very hard to come by nowadays. . . The IIgs ROM 2 (512k) and IIgs ROM 3 (1 megabyte) logic board hav a battery holder and will only require removing its cap to replace the old one.

Apple did not require the you to "replace the motherboard" simply because the CMOS battery was soldered in (an almost industry wide standard at the time). A reputable Apple service dealer would replace the battery for a nominal charge. Your local "computer" store was trying to rip you off.

Apple's miserable quality may have chased me off, but their arrogance will keep me away, permanently!

Apple has never been challenged on "quality" and their service has always been considered the "gold standard" in the industry. Your experience with a "local dealer" is not the general experience of Apple customers.

[add925]

Are you gonna go through life only buying products made by Conservatives? That's ridiculous. How would you ever know? What if the Boss was conservative and all the employees are libs? See how silly that is?

Not ridiculous at all. I usually buy after comparing specs & prices first, then look to what the Company/Leadership means to me.

MacApple means liberal $$ to me, so I go elsewhere.

Its not the employees, but the B.O.D. and the CEO I have interest in. Workerbees can be lib or conservative, makes no difference to me whatsoever.

Steve Jobs' politics don't suit me and I have equivalent or better products outside of Appleland Yes, Im a Geek & built-up my own computer. Man, I hate to admit that in public-don't tell anyone ;)