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1 posted on 02/26/2005 4:45:12 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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Fox & Friends "Conservative Hillary" ping to the Today Show ping list.


2 posted on 02/26/2005 4:46:29 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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ellen RATner is about as relevant as old chewing gum.


3 posted on 02/26/2005 4:47:59 AM PST by kingattax
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Hillary is a conservative Democrat

A case of the dems and MSM attemping to reinvent Hillary. I guess they figure if the start now, they just may tell the lie often enough that people will believe it.

4 posted on 02/26/2005 4:48:35 AM PST by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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"Does anyone believe for a second that Ratner et. al have forgotten good old liberal Hillary,..."

Just in case they have, we'll be sure to remind them. Apparently they keep forgetting that there's an internet, too.


5 posted on 02/26/2005 4:49:34 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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" ... roll the video of Ellen predicting that Dean would get the nomination and that Kerry would win the election ... "

Ellen who?

6 posted on 02/26/2005 4:50:40 AM PST by G.Mason ("If you are broken It is because you are brittle" ... K.Hepburn, The Lion In Winter)
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Run Hillary Run


7 posted on 02/26/2005 4:51:10 AM PST by PGalt
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Ratner thought Traitor Kerry a "war hero" and predicted he would be president. If America gives little consideration to the truth about Hillary Rodham-Stalin, she will be president.


9 posted on 02/26/2005 4:51:48 AM PST by MisterRepublican ("It’s my belief that (insert conspiracy), originated with Karl Rove and the White House.")
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Not only a liberal democrat but a totalitarian to boot!


11 posted on 02/26/2005 4:53:56 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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My husband and I saw that little performance this morning, and that was exactly what it was..a performance.

Apparently they think we are all stupid and have no memory. Hillary is a leftists in disguise, and we all know it.

Ratner's simply lying to help position Hillary as a centrist.

12 posted on 02/26/2005 4:54:00 AM PST by Miss Marple
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LOL. What a whopper.


14 posted on 02/26/2005 4:55:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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Saw it and heard it. I expect we will hear this a lot. "Hillary is a little too conservative for me, but she will make a good president". The truth would be that she is pretending to be too conservative, wink wink!!


19 posted on 02/26/2005 5:00:06 AM PST by BallyBill (I'm a God fearing man and with many I stand....)
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20 posted on 02/26/2005 5:01:09 AM PST by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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Ratner must have tied one on pretty good last night if she is confusing hillary with Zell Miller. :^)


21 posted on 02/26/2005 5:01:19 AM PST by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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Ratner's little performance is all part of an effort on behalf of Hillary's Democratic claque to help her reposition herself. They will describe her as a moderate or conservative, and express disappointment that she is not more liberal, while supporting her candidacy. All this in an attempt to dupe unsuspecting voters into believing that Hillary has changed her liberal stripes.

RIGHT ON THE MONEY! The media propaganda machine is leading the charge for 2008, I don't know if I can take 4 years of this CRAP!!

27 posted on 02/26/2005 5:05:41 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Stune be damned! My beeber is set on fry!)
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Time to dust off the conveniently swept aside issues of White Water, Rose Law Firm and FBI files........


31 posted on 02/26/2005 5:08:47 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Stune be damned! My beeber is set on fry!)
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I am a loyal FOX follower but when Ratner is on a program I turn it off or switch channels. I absolutely refuse to watch a "Bitch" that made the statement that she wished the war would go badly.
I put up with the leftist they have on but Ratner,never. Ratner and her family must have a lot of clout because FOX swept that under the rug real quickly.
32 posted on 02/26/2005 5:08:58 AM PST by gunnedah
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Ellen Ranting Ratner's mouth engages independently and separately from her brain.

She is somewhat right, however. Hillary and cohorts (MSM, etc.) are positioning Hillary to the center/right of center. [Remember, that is where ole Bill moved. It worked for him; they expect it to work for her.]

Hillary is already to the right of many of the big-name Pubbies on illegal immigration. She is making that an issue for '08 and the GOP/GWB have yet to address the issue effectively. It is causing a split in the GOP. It is a bigger issue than GOP/GWB want to admit.

Hillary is positioning herself as a hawk on defense. The Dems have been notoriously weak on defense after Lyndon Johnson. Even the last election Dean captured much support from the anti-defense (called anti-war) wing. Even Kennedy and Kerry are closer to the Deaniacs than a significant chunk of their own party are. Hillary has sense enough to see that, after 9-11, defense is now a major issue. The Deaniac/Kerry/Kennedy wing are still living in the early 70's anti-war protest era. Kerry was on his way to winning, until the OBL tape surfaced pre-election weekend and reminded many that terrorism was a continuing threat.

The Hillary makeover will be slow, through her '06 reelection. After that, she will be able to be more open and aggressive at running for the WH. After---her re-election. Then the MSM will jump on her train. Remember how they covered for Kerry -- a do nothing for 20 years in the Senate who ran on 4 months in Vietnam 35 years ago and got several medals, some by questionable methods, etc. When Hillary starts her 'public' run (she is already running in private), the MSM will pile on board and help her in every conceivable way.

By the '08 election cycle, MSM will have her anointed Saint Hillary of Ark. They will cover every base to make her into the savior for the party, the nation, the world, the universe and beyond.

As for the wart...they were all vetted already in her book tour in, so there will no need to dredge up all the old history. [The MSM will cover up for her just like they did for Kerry. Remember, that half of the young voters will barely remember the Clinton presidency. Those who were age 12, for example when Clinton left office, will be 20 in '08. They won't have the cognizance of bClinton's presidency and they will have been brainwashed into thinking his impeachment was about sex---not about the perjury under oath. They won't relate Hillary to any of Bill's ills. [Remember how 'out of sight' she was the last few years of Bill's presidency?]

Ranting Ratner is correct. Hillary will be made to look more and more conservative. By the '08 cycle, she will have been remade to make Regan look like a liberal. lol.
34 posted on 02/26/2005 5:13:40 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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38 posted on 02/26/2005 5:16:51 AM PST by Conservatrix (He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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I also thought it was very telling and typically hypocritical when RATner quipped about a possible Rice vs. Clinton 2008 match-up "She (Rice) has never been elected to anything."

I guess that long list of Hitlery's electoral victories automatically qualifies her for the Presidency.
39 posted on 02/26/2005 5:17:38 AM PST by hotshu
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After viewing the just-completed segment, the question arises as to whether the "short" refers to Ratner's stature or, as would appear more likely, to the fact that she is short on brains.

She's not dumb. Hillary is RIGHT NOW campagining for President and the "Conservative Democrat" message is the EXACT one she wants to get out. Ratner is merely following orders.

42 posted on 02/26/2005 5:20:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Proudly Posting Without Reading the Article Since 1999!)
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