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Vatican Cardinal Ends Debate: No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians or Rainbow Sashers
Life Site News.net ^ | 02.06.05

Posted on 02/16/2005 5:40:24 PM PST by Coleus

Vatican Cardinal Ends Debate: No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians or Rainbow Sashers

Says "Are we going to change Divine Law, how God made us?"

VATICAN CITY, February 16, 2005 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Nigerian Cardinal Francis Arinze, the top Vatican Cardinal in charge of the sacraments of the Catholic Church has made it plain in an on-camera interview with EWTN that pro-abortion politicians may not be admitted to Holy Communion.

A February 11 EWTN broadcast of the news program, World Over Live, with host Raymond Arroyo, featured an interview with Arinze, the Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments. The interview covered a wide range of topics, including female altar servers, Latin in the Mass, abortion and the rainbow sash movement.

Arroyo questioned the Vatican Cardinal saying: “Last year, you were asked at a press conference whether a politician, a Catholic politician who supports abortion publicly should be permitted to the Communion rail, should be permitted to receive Communion publicly. What is your response to that?”

Cardinal Arinze responded, “The answer is clear. If a person says I am in favour of killing unborn babies whether they be four thousand or five thousand, I have been in favour of killing them. I will be in favour of killing them tomorrow and next week and next year. So, unborn babies, too bad for you. I am in favour that you should be killed, then the person turn around and say I want to receive Holy Communion. Do you need any Cardinal from the Vatican to answer that?

Laughing, Arroyo responded, “It should be pretty transparent.” To which the Cardinal concluded, “Simple, ask the children for First Communion, they'll give you the answer.”

Similarly, Cardinal Arinze ruled out Communion for homosexual activists.

Arroyo noted that while some US bishops have refused Communion to Rainbow Sash activists, others such as Archbishop Harry Flynn of Minneapolis - St. Paul have not. Flynn, after meeting with Cardinal Arinze in Rome recently, suggested that the Cardinal was open to allowing communion for Rainbow Sash activists.

Arroyo first confirmed the meeting with Archbishop Flynn took place. “Did such a conversation take place between you and this archbishop?,” asked Arroyo, to which Cardinal Arinze responded, “Yes.”

Arroyo followed with “And were you open to allowing this group to receive Communion as he inferred in some of the newspapers.”

The Vatican Cardinal responded, “No, no. You see, let's get it clear. These rainbow sash people, are they really saying we are homosexuals, we intend to remain so and we want to receive Holy Communion. The question arises; take the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It says it is not condemning a person for having homosexual tendency. We don't condemn anybody for that. But a person stands condemned for acting on it.”

On homosexuality the Cardinal was clear. “The Catholic Church has never accepted homosexuality as normal. You read the scripture. It's very clear. What exactly are we examining? Are we going to change Divine Law, how God made us?”

He made a distinction between active homosexuals and those with homosexual tendencies. “Quite another matter if a person had just the tendencies and is making (an) effort to live the Divine Law, then that's fine. So, we respect persons but be clear on the truth,” he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; arinze; cardinalarinze; catholic; catholiclist; catholicpoliticians; communion; holycommunion; homosexualagenda; rainbowsash; vatican
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1 posted on 02/16/2005 5:40:25 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

It is the "Go and sin no more" part that the Liberals always leave out.


2 posted on 02/16/2005 5:44:21 PM PST by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: Coleus

I like this cardinal.


3 posted on 02/16/2005 5:45:34 PM PST by Andyman (The world should not be ruled by those who are most easily offended.)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
Cardinal Arinze denies he approved US Archbishop giving sash wearing "gays" Holy Communion

4 posted on 02/16/2005 5:47:14 PM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Andyman

Is Cardinal Arinze on the short list of candidates to succeed John Paul II?


5 posted on 02/16/2005 5:48:33 PM PST by Argus
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To: Coleus

This is excellent.


6 posted on 02/16/2005 5:49:11 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: Coleus

Bump for Cardinal Arinze, bless his heart!


7 posted on 02/16/2005 5:49:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (It's Monday again here. How are things there?)
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To: Coleus
The "debate" is not ended since virtually all US bishops do not and will not refuse communion to baby-killing politicians.

The bishops do not accept the authority of Rome over things below the navel, and Rome is unwilling to declare them in schism.

8 posted on 02/16/2005 5:49:50 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Coleus

About time we heard some straight talk from the Vatican.


9 posted on 02/16/2005 5:50:30 PM PST by thoughtomator (If Islam is a religion, so is Liberal!)
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To: Coleus

I'm impressed.


10 posted on 02/16/2005 5:51:49 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Coleus

Even though I'm a non-Catholic I stand in solidarity with true Catholics all around the world.


11 posted on 02/16/2005 5:52:02 PM PST by youngtory (Rights are rights are rights. Just like a proof is a proof is a proof.-Liberal dorks.)
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To: Coleus

Makes me glad to have been born and raised a Catholic. Glad to see a leader with some 'nads for a change!


12 posted on 02/16/2005 5:53:24 PM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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To: Andyman

Me too. About time the church stood up for something. This fellow would make a good pope.


13 posted on 02/16/2005 5:54:09 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: Coleus

Just about the time you feel like you're being left to twist in the wind...an angel shows up.


14 posted on 02/16/2005 5:54:23 PM PST by papertyger (If you're gonna be dumb, you gotta be tough.)
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To: Coleus; All

>> Do you need any Cardinal from the Vatican to answer that

I don't trust him. I came across him at a Catholic conference in Philly about 10 years ago and asked him about pro-abortion politicians.

He hemmed and hawed and basically gave a flimsy answer.

Has he changed his mind? I hope so, but he isn't the great disciplinarian everybody is looking for.


15 posted on 02/16/2005 5:57:45 PM PST by 1stFreedom (1)
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To: Coleus
The Vatican Cardinal responded, “No, no. You see, let's get it clear. These rainbow sash people, are they really saying we are homosexuals, we intend to remain so and we want to receive Holy Communion. The question arises; take the Catechism of the Catholic Church. It says it is not condemning a person for having homosexual tendency. We don't condemn anybody for that. But a person stands condemned for acting on it.”

Hey Cardinal, what about Bishop Pilla? He has the Rainbow Gay Pride Sash flying on his website!!!

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/images/rnbwtile.gif

http://www.dioceseofcleveland.org/gayandlesbianfamilyministry/images/tooosgif.gif

16 posted on 02/16/2005 6:01:23 PM PST by Diago
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To: Coleus
I LIKE Cardinal Arinze. It's such a RELIEF to hear a representative of the Vatican insist on sticking to the rules laid down in the scriptures!

He's Pope matierial

17 posted on 02/16/2005 6:05:38 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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To: 1stFreedom



10 years ago...you don't belive people gain experience and come to a fuller understanding of what is acceptable to God.


18 posted on 02/16/2005 6:09:03 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Coleus

Since the Vatican has said this, one question. If a known pro abortion politician or openly gay member comes to receive communion can the priest refuse them and tell them to go back to their pew? I am afraid that is going to be necessary many times before it sinks in that the Church is serious about the rules.


19 posted on 02/16/2005 6:13:27 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: Coleus

"Bout time they upheld the "Holy" laws! Why not answer when the question was fresh eh? Like during the ELECTION hmmn????? At least it is done!


20 posted on 02/16/2005 6:15:02 PM PST by Danae (In waking a Tiger, use a long stick - R. Heinlein)
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