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Vatican Cardinal Ends Debate: No Communion for Pro-Abortion Politicians or Rainbow Sashers
Life Site News.net ^ | 02.06.05

Posted on 02/16/2005 5:40:24 PM PST by Coleus

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To: MKM1960

I wonder how many politicians will show up at church this weekend with a news camera crew in tow to force a showdown?
The Church will get the bad press on this, but thank God they are at last speaking out. I now pray that they stand firm and take a few American Bishops to task.


101 posted on 02/17/2005 11:04:19 AM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil bonnets.)
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To: Coleus

Do you know what he said about female altar servers?


102 posted on 02/17/2005 11:05:22 AM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil bonnets.)
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I'm not too sure whether or not he addressed the issue which is not theological or dogmatic.  I understand the Pope has allowed the practice of using girls to sever at mass and the bishops followed suit.  I think it's up to the local ordinary to decide such an issue.
 
Help (Vanity) Altar Boys vs. Altar Girls
 
Pope Extols Altar Boys as "Garden" of Vocations

103 posted on 02/17/2005 11:43:38 AM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Coleus
Hubbard was the only one to write back a nasty response. That should tell you what king of bishop and shepherd he really is.

27 years shepherding this diocese and he still has another 8 years to go.

104 posted on 02/17/2005 12:34:14 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: Barnacle; SuziQ
Barnacle, I appreciated your well-reasoned reply.

Last month a visiting priest from a monastery give an unequivocally clear sermon on American culture. I could tell from the reaction of the women in front of me, that if our pastor had given that sermon, they would be searching for another parish. They were simply not ready to hear what he had to say.
Personally, it would be fine with me if they did leave. But, that's not my area of expertise.

Jesus was never interested in being popular. He is not only Love, but Truth, and He came to tell us the Truth and then let us decide what we are going to do with it. The rich young ruler (Luke 18:18-23) comes to mind -- the one who asked what he should do to inherit eternal life -- and Jesus said to give up all his wealth and follow Him, and the young man turned away, sorrowing, for he had many possessions. Jesus didn't run after him. He let him go. I am sure He prayed for him, that at some point the man would reconsider and choose eternal life. Yet, He let him go.

When a church is more concerned with keeping up its numbers instead of following Jesus' example, you get what we have in large degrees today: compromised, sin-ignoring, weak institutions that coddle the crooked instead of giving them opportunities to choose between clearly right and clearly wrong lifestyles, while also loving the sinners (all of us) as we try and try again to obey God. God lets us choose to live reprobate lives but He doesn't ever stop caring about and working to lead us back to Him.

Barnacle, I agree with your final statement, "I am confident that bit by bit, over time, we will be guided back to the truth." It is a messy business getting back there, with the breakdowns in our societal walls.

105 posted on 02/17/2005 12:59:33 PM PST by GretchenM (God doesn't ask us to live perfectly. He just asks us to trust Him and obey. - Joyce Meyer)
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To: SubMareener

Of course it is, to them religion is the Motel 6... "Go ahead, sin all you want, we'll leave the light on for you." and when they are forced to realize it doesn't work that way, they blame the church and not themselves.


106 posted on 02/17/2005 1:03:52 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: GretchenM

We're basically of one mind on this subject.


107 posted on 02/17/2005 4:20:19 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: ninenot

Archbishop-Coadjutor Daniel DiNardo not only knows his Latin, but more importantly he knows his Greek -- reads from his Greek New Testament translating it at sight -- ahhhh! ---- a real bishop was in Iowa but now in Texas.


108 posted on 02/17/2005 5:55:31 PM PST by Siobhan (Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us. Blessed Jacinta, pray for us. Blessed Francisco, pray for us.)
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Rainbow Sash

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109 posted on 05/12/2005 8:08:51 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!! and ducks)
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