Where is Venezuela's Pinochet?

Vcrisis ^ | 14.02.05 | Aleksander Boyd

[alekboyd]

London 14.02.05 | Lately, in conversation with myself, I have been trying to argue in favour of socialism/communism. International, non-Venezuelan supporters of the Bolivarian revolution often accuse us, as political opponents of Chavez, of being 'Pinochetistas'. Deprived from common sense or decorum, Marxist advocates of communism/socialism the world over continue basing their relentless attack on free market/capitalism on the gross violations to human rights done under Pinochet's rule and I do believe everyone must concur with that predicament. However it is impossible to hear them criticize the equally horrendous and statistically larger record of abuses to human liberties done by Fidel Castro. Thus one can not compare the two dictators on the human rights violation premise for they are two sides of the same coin.

[Montfort]

Castro never stepped down and handed over the reins of power. Pinochet did.

[Restorer]

Castro never stepped down and handed over the reins of power.

He will soon.

However, it will probably be involuntary and due to his assuming room temperature.

[pissant]

Pinochet should come out of retirement and become a diactator of Venezuela until they get their act together.

[NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961]

Frankly, I do not mourn the communists that Pinochet killed anymore than I lament the death of communists elsewhere. It was a murderous ideology (yes, I do mean that in the Marxist sense) that could only be defeated by force.

God bless you! The only good one is a dead one I say. How the left has taken to an ideology that has easily killed more than 100 million people in the last century is a damming indictment against them!

[FreedomPoster]

And the level of human rights violations, based on number of deaths, is two orders of magnitude lower for Pinochet than for Castro, if I remember my Rummel correctly.

This does not begin to take account of the higher level of human misery due to needless communist-imposed poverty in Cuba.

[Clemenza]

Where is Venezuela's Pinochet?

In Miami, enjoying a rum and coke at the Coral Gables Biltmore.

[ricardo illanes]

Dear Mr Boyd.

For years i have been logging on to your site every day and once again i must congratulate you for your courageous stance, and the inspiration you give to freedom loving people.

But on this one I must take exception to what was expressed by you.

Let's be clear, and once it for all set the record straight, even though is not politically correct, when it comes to Pinochet.

In 1973 Chile's political situation was even worse than the Venezuelan reality today, the country had practically been invaded by Cubans, and tens of thousands of Marxist terrorists.

General Pinochet saved Chile from a fate worse than Cuba's.
and one that Venezuela is rapidly approaching.

In order to achieve the Independence of Chile from Cuba and the international hoards of terrorists, the Chilean army had to declare war on them, and war is not pretty but sometimes extremely necessary.

Human rights abuses?? what about the terrorist abuses?? why is it that we forget what they have done and continue to do? I remember September 11 1973, when snipers aligned with the left, placed themselves on top of buildings and shot, soldiers and civilians alike.

I also remember Venezuelan politicians doing the same from a bridge in Caracas.

But neither the snipers in Chile or Venezuelan murderers are Human Right abusers only the decent and law abiding citizens trying to stop them.

The images are still fresh in my mind, how the communist brigades in Chile killed, kidnapped and disappeared anybody that dared voice an opinion contrary to the regime. But I guess those acts are not Human Right abuses because the harm is done only to freedom and democratic believers.

If a true Revolution happened today in Venezuela, and truly courageous men took arms against Chavez and his terrorists, and in the process some FARC terrorist, Cuban intelligence officer, and some of the thugs that surround Chavez, were killed, will that be considered Human Rights abuses? or simply Justice?

If Chavez' removal was achieved and after, some of his thugs and traitors on Cuban payroll continued to kill and hurt Venezuelan citizens, the elimination of this terrorists will it be considered Human Right abuses or simply justice??

One of the things that puzzle us the most is how a thug like Chavez can be supported by anyone, but we clearly see how the liberal world not only supports him but idolizes him, this is the same world that condemned General Pinochet, and made a hero of that vermin called Allende.
The same people that called General Pinochet a human rights abuser are the same people that call Chavez a "statesman" and the Venezuelan opposition criminals, the ones that call Anderson a "hero" of the revolution and you a "golpista", are the ones that accuse this country of violating Human rights and call Castro a democrat. Clearly we need to understand that unfortunately world opinion is managed sometimes by these people and the facts they portrait are not the true facts.

[alekboyd]

Ricardo, I couldn't agree more with your argument. As Miguel Octavio aptly put it recently: It will not be revenge, it will simply be justice.

[dfwgator]

However, it will probably be involuntary and due to his assuming room temperature.

Or as we call them, "Romanian Term Limits."

[Kitten Festival]

I agree with you that Allende was vermin. I had a Chilean roomate who told me all about it. The confiscations, the canned rat meat from China, the communism all over. It truly sucked to live there. Allende was a real tyrant.

[Tan]

Forget Castro, what about Pol Pot? Pinochet and Pol Pot both surfaced again at about the same time. A leftist judge from Spain issued an arrest warrant for Pinochet, in spite of the fact that his own country had given him immunity. Pol Pot was allowed to die in peace, and his murderous comrades are still living undisturbed. Pinochet is said to be responsible for 2 to 3 thousand people. Pol Pot was responsible for 2 MILLION.

The left ALWAYS scream for their own. They are screaming for Pinochet's head, but their silence about Pol Pot is loud enough to say it all. If the leftists were honest or even sincere, they would have, AT LEAST, demanded justice for Pol Pot's horror.

To make matters worse, today I hear a leftist reporter announce an interview with the writer of a new book which "explores the mind of one of the world's greatest criminals - Pol Pot". I almost flipped! Pinochet is a murderous dictator, but Pol Pot is just a criminal!