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Cut back farm subsidies
The News-Sentinel (Fort Wayne) ^ | 10. February 2005 | Leo Morris

Posted on 02/14/2005 7:43:05 AM PST by 1rudeboy

They’re not ‘saving’ family operations – they’re actually contributing to their demise.

In 2003, Allen County farmers received about $7.5 million in subsidies from the federal government. The top 20 percent of producers – that was 653 of the 3,269 who got payments – received 82 percent of the money, for an average of $91,082 each. That included top recipient Henry Hilger & Sons at $123,176. The remaining 80 percent of the farmers got only 18 percent of the money, about $4,836 each, on average. That included recipient No. 2,184 Walter Langley, who got $12 for one acre he has farmed so he doesn’t have to mow it.

OK, go ahead now: Try to make the case, as so many in Washington have done so disingenuously for so long, that the point of agricultural subsidies is to “save the family farm.”

The truth is that such subsidies – mostly on commodities such as corn, soybeans, rice and cotton, in which farmers are paid the difference between the selling price and a government-set minimum – are accelerating the rate of disappearance of smaller farms. The bigger the farming operation, the more subsidy money and therefore profit; the big farms use that profit to buy smaller farms, which makes them eligible for even more money, which they can use to buy even more smaller farms.

President Bush, in announcing his new proposed budget, said he wants to cut payments to farmers by $587 million, or about 5 percent, next year, and save $6.7 billion in subsidies in the coming decade. He would do this principally by setting a firm limit of $250,000 a year for each individual subsidy. Theoretically, the current limit is $360,000 a year. But growers have found many ways around the limit (such as dividing one farm into several partnerships) and can get several times that amount; more than 70 get $1 million or more in subsidies.

The president’s intentions quickly got the attention of farming organizations. More than 100 of them, led by the American Farm Bureau Federation, said they would fight the proposal. The Indiana Farm Bureau’s president said the move is “ill-timed” and farmers “need a reliable safety net.”

It’s a pretty selective safety net, however. Nationwide, 10 percent of the farmers get more than 70 percent of the subsidies, a fact that causes the conservative Heritage Foundation to call farm subsides “America’s largest corporate welfare program.” Since farming households in general have higher incomes, greater wealth and lower consumption expenditures than most households, this creates a perverse anti-Robin Hood effect: The poor (relatively speaking) are being robbed to pay the rich.

“Any way you look at it,” Indiana U.S. Sen. Richard Lugar has noted, “this is a highly concentrated system of payments.” Lugar has been a longtime member of the Senate Agriculture Committee and in 2002 led an unsuccessful attempt to cap individual subsidies at $275,000. He also sponsored the 1996 Freedom to Farm bill, which would have gradually weaned farmers off subsidies altogether. But commodity prices dropped, “emergency appropriations” were approved, and there’s been no going back.

Until now. Considering the history of such proposals, it’s fair to say the president has an uphill battle. But he’s certainly right. Besides making a few rich farmers even richer, the subsidies don’t do much for the agricultural community. They keep land prices high, limit the entry of new farmers, make food more expensive than it should be and keep our farmers producing far more than we can eat in this nation.

Overproduction is an issue our trading partners keep trying, justifiably, to make an issue of. How can we make a persuasive moral case against a foreign government dumping, say, steel on us by subsidizing the producers when we’re doing the same thing with our agricultural products?

By the numbers

An organization called the Environmental Working Group has compiled an incredible farm subsidy database at www.ewg.org/farm/ at which you can find every recipient of a farm subsidy in the U.S. – and how much each has received in the nine years between 1995 and 2003. You can do the same thing for every recipient in Allen County or any county in any state. Using the database, you can make such comparisons as the following one.

Concentration of payments to farmers from 1995-2003:

U.S. – the top 10 percent of recipients got 72 percent of the payments, for an average of $309,823 each.

Indiana – the top 10 percent of recipients got 70 percent of the payments, for an average of $269,082 each.

Allen County – the top 10 percent got 68 percent of the payments, for an average of $149,985 each.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: agriculture; aid; farm
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Found this through the Heritage website. Governmental policy always has unintended consequences . . . if you are interested in more about the same, try Big Shrimp: A Protectionist Mess.
1 posted on 02/14/2005 7:43:06 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

But Willie Green says subsidies make our sugar cheaper.


2 posted on 02/14/2005 7:47:06 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: 1rudeboy

The government should stick to defending the rights of the citizens and stop interfering in businesses of any kind.


3 posted on 02/14/2005 7:49:14 AM PST by Protagoras (Un-apprehended criminals have no credibility when advocating for the WOD)
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To: farmfriend

Your thoughts, please.


4 posted on 02/14/2005 7:52:07 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: 1rudeboy
"” Since farming households in general have higher incomes, greater wealth and lower consumption expenditures than most households, this creates a perverse anti-Robin Hood effect: The poor (relatively speaking) are being robbed to pay the rich."
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It will be interesting to follow this thread to see if any of the crowd who believes the American farmer cannot compete anymore and is living on the edge of financial ruin will, finally, offer some evidence to refute the Heritage Foundation's claim.
5 posted on 02/14/2005 7:55:32 AM PST by Mase
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To: 1rudeboy

Get rid of the Chicago Board of Trade and the speculators in the market and you won't need gov. payments. As long as the producers can't set the prices they need for their crops, they most likely aren't going to be profitable.


6 posted on 02/14/2005 7:56:39 AM PST by curlewbird
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To: 1rudeboy

Bush's proposal will do nothing to hurt 99% of the family farms.


7 posted on 02/14/2005 7:58:10 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: 1rudeboy

Harangue the farmers if you must, but these bills ought to be labled, "Save the Farmland Banking Industry." In my No. Illinois area family corparations have led the farm consolidation and they have done it with the help of institutions willing to lend money rather freely. Take away the government juice and we will need John "Cougar" to do his first Bank Aid concert.


8 posted on 02/14/2005 8:03:13 AM PST by junta (If you must hate, hate an ideologue.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Clearly, we need more subsidies in order to drive prices even lower. [chuckle]


9 posted on 02/14/2005 8:04:50 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: curlewbird

Wrong without the dollars of these city slickers the production channel will be controlled by way too few industrial consumers who in the end would decimate what is left of the small farmers. Soon after your plan went into effect mega corps would move in and farm mega sized farms would be rule and rural people would be in the same boat as 19th century coal miners.


10 posted on 02/14/2005 8:06:51 AM PST by junta (If you must hate, hate an ideologue.)
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To: curlewbird
Get rid of the Chicago Board of Trade and the speculators in the market and you won't need gov. payments. As long as the producers can't set the prices they need for their crops, they most likely aren't going to be profitable.

Absolutely!! You wouldn't want the consumers to have any say in the price of crops.

11 posted on 02/14/2005 8:09:31 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: 1rudeboy

Whatever the case, farmers in my neck of the woods are selling prime ag land to developers. Unfair trade practices undercut U.S. farmers. That's an issue.


12 posted on 02/14/2005 8:13:51 AM PST by followerofchrist
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To: junta
Bull. We've heard the same dire warnings before about the demise of the telephone company, airlines, trucking... if they had to get by without good ol' Uncle Sugar's help too.

I was raised on a farm, so I know how much hard work it takes. But I'd like to see all crop subsidies, not just cut, but ended. If that means some farms sink, tough rocks.

13 posted on 02/14/2005 8:33:42 AM PST by Dave Olson
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To: 1rudeboy

Where do I sign up to get paid $12 so I don't have to mow my lawn?


14 posted on 02/14/2005 8:39:50 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Your right! Especially when most consumers don't have a CLUE how much it actually costs to produce the crop in the first place!!!!!!! By the way, most average consumers aren't the ones with the extra cash to play the commodities market. Consumers shouldn't have a say in the price of crops, they should have a say in the price of the food they purchase from the BIG corporations who really rack up the $$. Do you really think that when the price at the grocery store goes up, it's the farmer who is getting that cash?????? Lamb is not traded on the mercantile and the price stays affordable at the market, as well as being profitable for the producers. It can be done!!
15 posted on 02/14/2005 8:40:24 AM PST by curlewbird
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To: junta

The vast majority of trader on the board ARE the big industrials!! They already control the prices!!


16 posted on 02/14/2005 8:41:53 AM PST by curlewbird
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To: followerofchrist

I don't think it likely that unfair trade practices result in developers buying land. There's more to it . . . .


17 posted on 02/14/2005 8:44:21 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: curlewbird
Consumers shouldn't have a say in the price of crops, they should have a say in the price of the food they purchase from the BIG corporations who really rack up the $$.

Yes!! Why should the big corporations have a say in the price of the goods they buy? I think the government should tell them what to pay.

And those brokers on the Board of Trade floor are just a bunch of leeches. The government should take all their money and give it to the farmers.

18 posted on 02/14/2005 8:44:22 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Protectionism is economic ignorance!)
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To: Dave Olson
But I'd like to see all crop subsidies, not just cut, but ended.

I agree with that statement 100%.....

19 posted on 02/14/2005 8:50:49 AM PST by eeriegeno
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"And those brokers on the Board of Trade floor are just a bunch of leeches. The government should take all their money and give it to the farmers."


I never said that! Believe me, I would like nothing more than to NOT have to deal with the government when it comes to my farming practices. But I get really annoyed when I see all these posts about how 'Rich' the farmers are getting at the expense of the taxpayers. The vast majority of us are not 'rich' by any means. We work hard for a living and just want to be able to make a profit at what we love to do. It is hard work for little return. I apparently am a little less tolerant than normal on this subject. I have spent most of the last two weeks trying to line up the financing for next years operations. I wish I was as rich as everyone claims. But honestly, I think the farmers get a lot more of the spite and hatred from people than most of them deserve. I know farmers who are like the ones talked about in the articles. They split into 3 or 4 corporations to max on payments and then outbid smaller farmers for rent of farm ground. Most of the farmers I know are not like that and it really annoys me when people say nasty things about what we do.
20 posted on 02/14/2005 8:54:10 AM PST by curlewbird
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