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Behe Jumps the Shark [response to Michael Behe's NYTimes op-ed, "Design for Living"]
Butterflies and Wheels (reprinted from pharyngula.org) ^ | February 7, 2005 | P. Z. Myers

Posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:09 PM PST by snarks_when_bored

Behe Jumps the Shark

By P Z Myers

Nick Matzke has also commented on this, but the op-ed is so bad I can't resist piling on. From the very first sentence, Michael Behe's op-ed in today's NY Times is an exercise in unwarranted hubris.

In the wake of the recent lawsuits over the teaching of Darwinian evolution, there has been a rush to debate the merits of the rival theory of intelligent design.

And it's all downhill from there.

Intelligent Design creationism is not a "rival theory." It is an ad hoc pile of mush, and once again we catch a creationist using the term "theory" as if it means "wild-ass guess." I think a theory is an idea that integrates and explains a large body of observation, and is well supported by the evidence, not a random idea about untestable mechanisms which have not been seen. I suspect Behe knows this, too, and what he is doing is a conscious bait-and-switch. See here, where he asserts that there is evidence for ID:

Rather, the contemporary argument for intelligent design is based on physical evidence and a straightforward application of logic. The argument for it consists of four linked claims.

This is where he first pulls the rug over the reader's eyes. He claims the Intelligent Design guess is based on physical evidence, and that he has four lines of argument; you'd expect him to then succinctly list the evidence, as was done in the 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution FAQ on the talkorigins site. He doesn't. Not once in the entire op-ed does he give a single piece of this "physical evidence." Instead, we get four bald assertions, every one false.

The first claim is uncontroversial: we can often recognize the effects of design in nature.

He then tells us that Mt Rushmore is designed, and the Rocky Mountains aren't. How is this an argument for anything? Nobody is denying that human beings design things, and that Mt Rushmore was carved with intelligent planning. Saying that Rushmore was designed does not help us resolve whether the frond of a fern is designed.

Which leads to the second claim of the intelligent design argument: the physical marks of design are visible in aspects of biology. This is uncontroversial, too.

No, this is controversial, in the sense that Behe is claiming it while most biologists are denying it. Again, he does not present any evidence to back up his contention, but instead invokes two words: "Paley" and "machine."

The Reverend Paley, of course, is long dead and his argument equally deceased, thoroughly scuttled. I will give Behe credit that he only wants to turn the clock of science back to about 1850, rather than 1350, as his fellow creationists at the Discovery Institute seem to desire, but resurrecting Paley won't help him.

The rest of his argument consists of citing a number of instances of biologists using the word "machine" to refer to the workings of a cell. This is ludicrous; he's playing a game with words, assuming that everyone will automatically link the word "machine" to "design." But of course, Crick and Alberts and the other scientists who compared the mechanism of the cell to an intricate machine were making no presumption of design.

There is another sneaky bit of dishonesty here; Behe is trying to use the good names of Crick and Alberts to endorse his crackpot theory, when the creationists know full well that Crick did not believe in ID, and that Alberts has been vocal in his opposition.

So far, Behe's argument has been that "it's obvious!", accompanied by a little sleight of hand. It doesn't get any better.

The next claim in the argument for design is that we have no good explanation for the foundation of life that doesn't involve intelligence. Here is where thoughtful people part company. Darwinists assert that their theory can explain the appearance of design in life as the result of random mutation and natural selection acting over immense stretches of time. Some scientists, however, think the Darwinists' confidence is unjustified. They note that although natural selection can explain some aspects of biology, there are no research studies indicating that Darwinian processes can make molecular machines of the complexity we find in the cell.

Oh, so many creationists tropes in such a short paragraph.

Remember, this is supposed to be an outline of the evidence for Intelligent Design creationism. Declaring that evolutionary biology is "no good" is not evidence for his pet guess.

Similarly, declaring that some small minority of scientists, most of whom seem to be employed by creationist organizations like the Discovery Institute or the Creation Research Society or Answers in Genesis, does not make their ideas correct. Some small minority of historians also believe the Holocaust never happened; does that validate their denial? There are also people who call themselves physicists and engineers who promote perpetual motion machines. Credible historians, physicists, and engineers repudiate all of these people, just as credible biologists repudiate the fringe elements that babble about intelligent design.

The last bit of his claim is simply Behe's standard misrepresentation. For years, he's been going around telling people that he has analyzed the content of the Journal of Molecular Evolution and that they have never published anything on "detailed models for intermediates in the development of complex biomolecular structures", and that the textbooks similarly lack any credible evidence for such processes. Both claims are false. A list of research studies that show exactly what he claims doesn't exist is easily found.

The fourth claim in the design argument is also controversial: in the absence of any convincing non-design explanation, we are justified in thinking that real intelligent design was involved in life. To evaluate this claim, it's important to keep in mind that it is the profound appearance of design in life that everyone is laboring to explain, not the appearance of natural selection or the appearance of self-organization.

How does Behe get away with this?

How does this crap get published in the NY Times?

Look at what he is doing: he is simply declaring that there is no convincing explanation in biology that doesn't require intelligent design, therefore Intelligent Design creationism is true. But thousands of biologists think the large body of evidence in the scientific literature is convincing! Behe doesn't get to just wave his hands and have all the evidence for evolutionary biology magically disappear; he is trusting that his audience, lacking any knowledge of biology, will simply believe him.

After this resoundingly vacant series of non-explanations, Behe tops it all off with a cliche.

The strong appearance of design allows a disarmingly simple argument: if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, then, absent compelling evidence to the contrary, we have warrant to conclude it's a duck. Design should not be overlooked simply because it's so obvious.

Behe began this op-ed by telling us that he was going to give us the contemporary argument for Intelligent Design creationism, consisting of four linked claims. Here's a shorter Behe for you:

The evidence for Intelligent Design.

That's it.

That's pathetic.

And it's in the New York Times? Journalism has fallen on very hard times.

This article was first published on Pharyngula and appears here by permission.


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If Behe's ears aren't burning, he's either deaf or not listening.

Here's the original FR thread on Behe's "Design for Living" op-ed.

 

1 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:11 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: RadioAstronomer; longshadow; PatrickHenry

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2 posted on 02/12/2005 4:24:47 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: All

BTW, today is Darwin's 196th birthday!


3 posted on 02/12/2005 4:27:50 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: VadeRetro; Junior; longshadow; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; js1138; Shryke; RightWhale; ...
EvolutionPing
A pro-evolution science list with over 230 names. See list's description at my homepage. FReepmail to be added/dropped.

4 posted on 02/12/2005 4:30:27 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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And by all means check out Myers' site pharyngula.org. Much interesting stuff there.
5 posted on 02/12/2005 4:31:07 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

Much interesting science stuff, I should've said.


6 posted on 02/12/2005 4:34:03 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
A couple of links from the List-O-Links:
Irreducible Complexity Demystified. Major debunking of ID.
The Flagellum Unspun: The Collapse of "Irreducible Complexity," Kenneth R. Miller.
7 posted on 02/12/2005 4:36:46 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
How does this crap get published in the NY Times?

They want to make Republicans/Conservatives look bad, That's why

8 posted on 02/12/2005 4:37:10 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Much interesting science stuff, I should've said.

Yes. But his politics are mucho lefto.

9 posted on 02/12/2005 4:37:39 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Yes, thankfully, he's got a filter so you can get rid of much of that crap. Mercifully.

Panda's Thumb is much better for your needs in these discussions.

10 posted on 02/12/2005 4:41:13 PM PST by ThinkPlease (Fortune Favors the Bold!)
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To: aculeus

Right. (That's why I posted the clarification.)


11 posted on 02/12/2005 4:43:39 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored; PatrickHenry
from the article:

"How does this crap get published in the NY Times?"

I realize the author was asking a rhetorical question, but the likely answer is illuminating.

The NYT is a statist, big-government advocate. Conservatives generally oppose big, intrusive government. To the extent that the NYT can paint conservatives as a bunch of snake-handling, knuckle-dragging, anti-science goons, the easier it will be for Hillary and other left-wing scoundrels to get elected and get their big-government programs passed.

So along comes some useful idiot like Behe, with his creationism masquarading as science nonsense, and the NYT is more than happy to publish it because it furthers the political agenda of the NYT and it's like minded friends by making conservatives look like anti-science religious fanatics who want to sneak religion into the science classroom of public schools via the back door.

And that, gentle reader, is how "this crap get published in the NY Times".... Better get used to it, because there will be much more of this coming our way.

12 posted on 02/12/2005 4:44:43 PM PST by longshadow
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INTREP - These people [evolutionists] continue to refuse to look at the evidence and the work that has been done. I guess they figure if you hurl enough "brick bats," something will change. It is truly a bad day for evolutionary integrity.

There is a large body of research substantiating Intelligent Design, and the work stands up to scrutiny far better than evolutionism does. It fits the evidence!

13 posted on 02/12/2005 4:45:11 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Secularization of America is happening)
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To: qam1
They want to make Republicans/Conservatives look bad, That's why

Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner!

14 posted on 02/12/2005 4:46:17 PM PST by longshadow
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To: longshadow
So along comes some useful idiot like Behe

My suggestion; useful IDiot.

15 posted on 02/12/2005 4:50:57 PM PST by aculeus
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To: LiteKeeper
INTREP - These people [evolutionists] continue to refuse to look at the evidence and the work that has been done. I guess they figure if you hurl enough "brick bats," something will change. It is truly a bad day for evolutionary integrity.

There is a large body of research substantiating Intelligent Design, and the work stands up to scrutiny far better than evolutionism does. It fits the evidence!

I respect your right to say this, but saying it doesn't make it so. This is not a 'he-said/she-said' situation, where there's equal weight on both sides of the question. This is more like an 'evolutionary-Mount-Everest/intelligent-design-grain-of-sand' situation.

16 posted on 02/12/2005 4:52:14 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: qam1
How does this crap get published in the NY Times?

I believe you're absolutely correct regarding the NYT motives: They do want to paint all conservatives with the brush of being irrational, anti-sience, anti-intellectual bible-thumping fundamentalists. They are attempting to paint conservatives by this false association as the American version of the Taliban.

IMHO, those who are on the offensive for creationism/ID have not bothered to understand science's procedures, history, philosophy and limited assumptions because simply they do not want to and, thus, are truly anti-intellectual.

For the sake of conservatism, I believe we need to mount a PR campaign of (for example) "Conservative Association for the Advancement of Science."

17 posted on 02/12/2005 4:59:01 PM PST by Rudder
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To: PatrickHenry
Sorry, but those really aren't very good articles. The latter is a classic bait and switch. The crux of thd article is this sentence, which has no bearing at all on the notion of irreducible complexity:
However, if the flagellum contains within it a smaller functional set of components like the TTSS, then the flagellum itself cannot be irreducibly complex – by definition. Since we now know that this is indeed the case, it is obviously true that the flagellum is not irreducibly complex.
Miller is just playing word games.

I'm too busy with other responsibilities and interests to continue this discussion, but I'll say what I've said before: my problems with the current theories of evolution aren't that it conflicts with religion, but that it so often conflicts with good science.

18 posted on 02/12/2005 5:02:00 PM PST by DallasMike
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To: longshadow
And that, gentle reader, is how "this crap get published in the NY Times".... Better get used to it, because there will be much more of this coming our way.

Although I'm horrified that the MSM will be publicizing the madness of creationism, all the while delighting in linking it to conservatism, there may be a bright side. The creationists and the leftist MSM will both be boosting creationism.

19 posted on 02/12/2005 5:39:55 PM PST by PatrickHenry (<-- Click on my name. The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
Very amusing. But, oh, so true.

That's it. That's pathetic.

And what an excellent summary of the entire ID wedge nonsense.

20 posted on 02/12/2005 5:41:54 PM PST by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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