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Expert: Flaw still dogs Windows patch
C|Net News ^ | January 24, 2005 | Matt Hines

Posted on 01/24/2005 5:32:12 PM PST by holymoly

Antivirus specialist GeCad Net is warning that it has found a problem with Microsoft's most recent software patch for Windows.

The Bucharest, Romania-based security service provider said that a critical patch issued by Microsoft in its MS05-001 bulletin earlier this month fails to resolve all of the security issues surrounding the HTML Help ActiveX control in Windows. Microsoft distributed the fix, along with additional security updates, to address the threat of attackers placing and executing malicious programs such as spyware on affected computers.

GeCad, which sold its antivirus software business to Microsoft in 2003, said that the patch has not addressed at least one so-called attack vector, or weakness, that could allow an exploit of the HTML Help ActiveX control vulnerability.

A Microsoft representative said Monday that the Redmond, Wash.-based company is already working to close the loophole reported by GeCad, and emphasized that the January patch had fixed the original reported problem.

"Microsoft issued an update to address a vulnerability in the HTML help control in Windows, and this update does protect against the publicly reported vulnerability," the representative said.

Moreover, the software maker disagreed that it overlooked a potential exploit with its patch. Instead, it said that the problem is a new flaw in HTML Help control that was not tackled in the update.

"Microsoft has been made aware of a publicly reported exploit of a different vulnerability than the one addressed," the representative said. "This vulnerability could be exploited in such a way as to cause the HTML Help control to execute code on a user's computer."

Microsoft did not say whether the fix would be released before its February patch bulletin.

GeCad said it is not disclosing technical details of the attack method right now for "security reasons." Microsoft has butted heads with security researchers in the past when they have disclosed information about flaws before the company has been able to patch them.

The antivirus company said the potential for attack is opened up if a computer is updated with Microsoft's Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Windows 2000 Service Pack 4, along with the most recent security patches. It also noted that updating with Microsoft's Windows XP Service Pack 2 seems to prevent the problem.

In 2003, Microsoft purchased GeCad Software, GeCad's antivirus software development business, but the remaining company continues to operate as a security researcher and consultancy. Microsoft is expected to release its own antivirus software sometime later this year.


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KEYWORDS: activex; computersecurity; exploit; flaw; microsoft; patch; security; vulnerability; windows
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...the software maker disagreed that it overlooked a potential exploit with its patch. Instead, it said that the problem is a new flaw in HTML Help control that was not tackled in the update.

I'm sure people will be comforted with the knowledge that Microsoft did not overlook this exploit.

It's a brand new exploit.
1 posted on 01/24/2005 5:32:13 PM PST by holymoly
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To: holymoly

In other news, the sun rose in the East today.


2 posted on 01/24/2005 5:36:59 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: holymoly
Moreover, the software maker disagreed that it overlooked a potential exploit with its patch. Instead, it said that the problem is a new flaw in HTML Help control that was not tackled in the update.

No matter how much Microsoft tap dances around the truth, it's still "overlooking the problem" as far as I am concerned.

3 posted on 01/24/2005 5:38:11 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (PEST/Suicide Hotline 1-800-BUSH-WON)
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To: Swordmaker

ping


4 posted on 01/24/2005 5:39:24 PM PST by Vermonter
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To: holymoly; ShadowAce
ActiveX control vulnerability.

If Microsoft wants to keep their Monopoly, they need to fix their crapola.....

5 posted on 01/24/2005 5:39:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: holymoly

Saw this story on Cnet an hour ago or thereabouts.

This is just about the straw that broke the camel's back. The Mac mini appealed to me on a geek level before, and now I seriously want one.


6 posted on 01/24/2005 5:40:16 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: thoughtomator
>In other news, the sun rose in the East today

Ha! Laugh while you can,
monkey-boy! Planet X moves
closer every day!

"We have mentioned that Planet X will do a 270° Roll to position itself in a side-by-side magnetic alignment with the Sun as it passes through the Ecliptic. The S. Pole of Planet X is slung away, positioned along the magnetic flow lines, and this continues until Planet X is almost horizontal, at the Ecliptic. This momentum continues for a 270° roll where Planet X will be aligned side-by-side, with its N. Pole pointing North. During this 270° roll, the Earth, as the lesser magnet in this dance, is greatly affected. It is today tilting toward the Sun and leaning toward Planet X, in the Tilt and Lean we have described, to accommodate the increased flow of magnetic particles in the vicinity of Planet X, attempting to line up end-to-end with Planet X, while simultaneously attempting to continue its side-by-side alignment with the Sun. Thus torn between two different dictates, the Earth has developed a Wobble. The Egyptians relayed to Plato that in the past the Sun rose from the West, during times of great catastrophe, and prophecy predicted this for the coming cataclysmic times. If we have predicted such a horrific pole shift for the Earth, after a week of rotation stoppage, would the Earth not be horrifically affected if stood on its head so the Sun would be seen rising in the West?"

[Sunrise West]

7 posted on 01/24/2005 5:43:28 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That IS their monopoly.


8 posted on 01/24/2005 5:45:30 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: holymoly

Speaking of Firefox,.....

Is there much or any difficulty changing over from IE to Firefox? Would it fiddle with or change many of my settings, favorites, connection with my local broadband provider (Charter) etc?

Any suggestions on how to do it without driving myself insane?

Would it speed up my surfin' 'n browsing?

Advice, opinions?


9 posted on 01/24/2005 5:46:46 PM PST by garyhope
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To: theFIRMbss
Expert: Flaw still dogs Windows patch

I must be dyslexic because I read this as "expertly made slaw-dogs at window...catch"

10 posted on 01/24/2005 5:47:04 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: Phsstpok

Ping for later reading


11 posted on 01/24/2005 5:49:22 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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To: theFIRMbss

ROFL


12 posted on 01/24/2005 5:50:56 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: garyhope
Is there much or any difficulty changing over from IE to Firefox?

Most of the buttons, etc. are where you'd expect them to be, so moving back & forth is fairly painless. As I recall, Mozilla.org has Help/FAQ/How-to sections for both Mozilla & Firefox.

Would it fiddle with or change many of my settings, favorites, connection with my local broadband provider (Charter) etc?

It shouldn't affect any of the above.

Any suggestions on how to do it without driving myself insane?

Would it speed up my surfin' 'n browsing?


All I can say is, try it. If you don't like it, you can always un-install it.
13 posted on 01/24/2005 5:52:40 PM PST by holymoly (About:Blank)
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To: holymoly
Listen up people!

Microsoft produces unstable, insecure garbage!

Why do you continue sending Bill Gates your money? Why does their crapware have even a 10% market share?

Open your eyes. There is a whole 'nother world of computing out there if you dump the Microsoft bilge overboard.

-ccm

14 posted on 01/24/2005 5:52:59 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: theFIRMbss

Ha! You fool! Planet X is under MY control! All the universe shall be under my domination! Muhahahaha!


15 posted on 01/24/2005 5:53:19 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: Dark Skies
LOL!

Either you are dyslexic or you've been staring at your computer too long.
16 posted on 01/24/2005 5:55:10 PM PST by Yak
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To: Terpfen
The Mac mini appealed to me on a geek level before, and now I seriously want one.

Then drop the hammer! Every day as you sit down to use the computer, you will grin at the lemmings still flailing and floundering with Redmond crapware.

-ccm

17 posted on 01/24/2005 5:55:25 PM PST by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: garyhope

The biggest obstacle is your fear. Once you start using it you'll realize it works exactly the same except it has a few really cool things that are darn useful anyway, and that all the shortcuts and hotkeys are the same, so there's almost nothing to re-learn. Plus you get the added bonus of being able to conduct normal web surfing activity without fear of being hacked, trojaned, virused, or otherwise attacked through it.


18 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:04 PM PST by thoughtomator (Meet the new Abbas, same as the old Abbas)
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To: Yak

And now I'm hungry for a slaw-dog or two.


19 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:05 PM PST by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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To: holymoly
I haven't read either of your computer security news threads yet, but it seems that there's a natural link between the two:

#1 experts warn businesses against Firefox since it can't run ActiveX

#2 Microsoft still hasn't fixed the latest ActiveX security hole in IE

Which makes Firefox not running ActiveX a GOOD thing

Many years ago I corresponded with Richard Smith, founder of Pharlap, on the old Canopus forum on Compuserve. We shared a common distaste for ActiveX from a security point of view, since ActiveX controls are simply windows programs that can do anything to your PC that any other Windows program can.

We came up with a scenario where an ActiveX control would do exactly what it was advertised to do, say display time and weather info, but in the background would be running a GREP on all available systems that your PC connected to, looking for things like documents with the word "secret" in it. Package those puppies up and send them home to momma over the same link that was feeding the ActiveX control it's time and weather data and no one is the wiser.

To this day I'm still not sure whether it was him or me who first coined the term for that type of computer program. Remember, computer "agents" were the rage at the time. We called the bad ActiveX controls "secret agents."

20 posted on 01/24/2005 5:56:29 PM PST by Phsstpok ("When you don't know where you are, but you don't care, you're not lost, you're exploring.")
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