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CPR Is Often Done Wrong, Studies Find
NY Times ^ | January 19, 2005 | NA

Posted on 01/19/2005 6:23:21 PM PST by neverdem

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Cardiopulmonary resuscitation is often inadequately performed by doctors, paramedics and nurses, two studies of resuscitation efforts during cardiac arrest have found.

Two common problems are rescuers not pushing hard enough or frequently enough on the chest to restart the heart, and rescuers breathing air into the lungs too often, either mouth to mouth or through tubes.

In a study that involved 67 adults at the University of Chicago, doctors and nurses failed to follow at least one CPR guideline 80 percent of the time. Failure to follow several guidelines was common.

The other study involved 176 adults with out-of-hospital cardiac arrest treated by paramedics and nurse anesthetists in Akershus, Norway; London; and Stockholm. Chest compressions were done half the time, and most were too shallow.

Both studies used an experimental monitor that assesses CPR quality, and both received financing from Laerdal Medical, a Norwegian company that developed the monitor with Philips Medical Systems, a subsidiary of Royal Philips Electronics of Amsterdam.

The studies appear in The Journal of the American Medical Association.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: cpr; health; healthcare
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1 posted on 01/19/2005 6:23:21 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

bump


2 posted on 01/19/2005 6:24:17 PM PST by ddtorque
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To: neverdem

I've always thought I'd hook up jumper cables to their nipples to get them restarted. A man's gotta use the tools he has.


3 posted on 01/19/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by umgud
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To: neverdem

CPR does not restart the heart. It is not intended to.

CPR provides baseline minimal circulation until more advanced cardiac care can be provided.

CPR is also manual labor. Try it for 5 minutes and you will think you just ran a marathon.


4 posted on 01/19/2005 6:27:57 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (pun my typo if you dare.)
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To: neverdem

It's hard to forget the first time the ribs crack while performing CPR.


5 posted on 01/19/2005 6:28:34 PM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: neverdem

In other breaking news:

Sex is often done wrong.

;-)


6 posted on 01/19/2005 6:28:38 PM PST by TitansAFC (Al Gonzales for SCOTUS? Let's just nominate Arlen Specter.)
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To: TASMANIANRED; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; ...
This is a freebee. Quality of Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation During Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest

This is just the abstract. Quality of Cardiopulmonary Resuscitation During In-Hospital Cardiac Arrest

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.

TASMANIANRED, I'm quite familiar with CPR and ACLS. I've felt chests go "crunch" a number of times.

7 posted on 01/19/2005 6:33:21 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

So it was done "wrong"....the "do-nothing" option is DEATH!


8 posted on 01/19/2005 6:34:11 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: umgud
Your a very sick individual.

I like you.

9 posted on 01/19/2005 6:36:40 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Schni schna schnappy, schnappy schnappy schnapp!)
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To: neverdem

As for doctors/nurses/paramedics not performing CPR correctly, I've seen/done CPR on babies, and instead of using 2 fingers of the same hand, we would oftentimes use both thumbs, with the index fingers down over the sides, and down toward the back, as if you were gripping something round. It seemed to work just as well as the 2 finger method taught by the ARC. Also, with the adrenaline of the code, the person bagging through the endo tube would often not sync to the person doing the compressions.


10 posted on 01/19/2005 6:41:54 PM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." Richard Nixon)
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To: neverdem

why is this a news story?


11 posted on 01/19/2005 6:50:54 PM PST by grand old partier
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To: NautiNurse
Been there, done that. They don't tell you about breaking ribs in training. It's hard to forget the Dr. pushing the cardiac needle in between your fingers too.

I learned to watch the monitor for full compression and return.

12 posted on 01/19/2005 6:54:26 PM PST by dmcnash
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To: neverdem

First-aid stuff often has to be done a lot harder than people think. After an angioplasty, I had the incision in my femoral artery pop open under the skin, causing what you might call the Ultimate Blood Blister. The doc had a nurse practically shove her thumbs down to the bone doing direct pressure on it until the midaeval plastic pressure torture device could be brought forth. I'm still full of heavyweight pain meds, and I thought she was trying to amputate my leg with her hands. I didn't say anything, but it's more than most people expect.

Thinking back on it now, a friend took an arterial hit in the foot once long ago, I probably did the same to him.


13 posted on 01/19/2005 6:58:56 PM PST by Riley
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To: dmcnash

The first time you hear that cruch it's a shock.

The next time it's kinda cool, like "here we go!".


14 posted on 01/19/2005 7:03:46 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: milestogo

ping


15 posted on 01/19/2005 7:05:38 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: lightman
So it was done "wrong"....the "do-nothing" option is DEATH!

Bingo. If you are doing CPR, the patient is literally DEAD. Not going-to-die - dead. You can't make it any worse.

16 posted on 01/19/2005 7:08:30 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (“There is no zot but Zot, and the mod is His prophet.”)
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To: Slings and Arrows

That's why the snap-crackle-pop of the ribs only bothered me one time and one time only.


17 posted on 01/19/2005 7:14:28 PM PST by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Bump.


18 posted on 01/19/2005 7:15:06 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: lightman

Only had to do it once myself, and I was working the BVM, so I don't remember the sound of the ribs. I do remember pumping that BVM for 35-40 miles. Bad night.


19 posted on 01/19/2005 7:16:47 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (“There is no zot but Zot, and the mod is His prophet.”)
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To: Slings and Arrows

When I taught CPR I would tell the students that it was better to do it wrong than to hesitate and not do it at all. That's also how I was taught.


20 posted on 01/19/2005 7:20:23 PM PST by Kirkwood
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