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This country continues to be built on the back of hard working, dedicated immigrants. The sooner we pass the president's plan, the better off we'll all be.
1 posted on 01/18/2005 7:06:32 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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The real face of immigration -Bump


2 posted on 01/18/2005 7:10:01 AM PST by ClintonBeGone (In politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: ClintonBeGone

As long as they are here legally, I don't have a problem with them.


3 posted on 01/18/2005 7:10:28 AM PST by Tigerjam
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To: ClintonBeGone

This was previously posted.


4 posted on 01/18/2005 7:10:53 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: ClintonBeGone
"This country continues to be built on the back of hard working, dedicated immigrants. The sooner we pass the president's plan, the better off we'll all be."

Well then why don't we just invalidate any other laws we don't happen to like?

The woman is a criminal, her employer a felon. There is a good probability the documents she has are stolen or forged.

Legalization by deportation - not legislation!

6 posted on 01/18/2005 7:11:36 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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FROM THE ARTICLE:

"It's not jobs Americans don't want to do. These are wages and working conditions Americans don't want to accept," says Ira Melman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, an opponent of lowering the barriers for undocumented workers.

"Why not let the free market determine what wages ought to be instead of flooding the market with low-wage, foreign labor?" he asks.

7 posted on 01/18/2005 7:11:36 AM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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...her coughing won't stop....

Oh yeah, that's someone I want working in my food supply chain. NOT!

This whole dreary POS article is a liberal tear-jerker for the supposedly down-trodden...who are apparently sending all their ill-gotten (can you say ILLEGAL?) wages back to their cronies in Mexico. Probably encouraging them to come over when they can too. Also illegally.

If the liberals care so much about the poor, "desperate" workers...Why isn't something done about the Mexican socialist enterprise? Oh yeah, this is not your "Father's" Immigration story, bud.

9 posted on 01/18/2005 7:15:43 AM PST by Paul Ross (Life is NOT like a box of chocolates...)
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Americans won't do the work at the price paid. If not for the Fed policy of unrestricted immigration, wages would rise until labor appeared to do the work. That would be a GOOD thing. The Fed policy is in effect a MAXIMUM WAGE law.


10 posted on 01/18/2005 7:16:24 AM PST by DManA
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To: ClintonBeGone

Legal or illegal they are being treated like dogs and it is wrong. Where is the father of this 35 yr old 6 children?


12 posted on 01/18/2005 7:18:09 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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These "jobs that Americans won't do" used to be starting out at $10/hr in the 70's. Now they are starting at $5-6/hr, with no advancement.

Face it, someone is making a lot of money in the meat packing industry, and it isn't the farmers or workers. If a company makes a practice of hiring illegal immigrants, shut down the plants.
15 posted on 01/18/2005 7:20:09 AM PST by redgolum
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To: ClintonBeGone

This is future disaster. Michael Moore type logic. A dose of victimhood, whining, and red herrings to take attention away from the obvious. This is destroying our country.


16 posted on 01/18/2005 7:20:41 AM PST by tkathy (Ban all religious head garb.)
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Yep, we'll always take illegal alien workers before we even think about hiring blacks! This is [B]arbra {S]triesand!!!

Aside from some short term economic gain for certain employers, these illegals represent a tremendous burdon on the system. The illegals take from the system, medical care, education, social benefits, damgage from uninsured accidents and send all surplus back to Mexico. And, in the furure, they will ALL claim unemployment benefits, disability and social security benefits using fake employment records.

We must seal the borders now and begin sending home all the criminals we can catch!

17 posted on 01/18/2005 7:21:16 AM PST by Tacis (Democrats! - When You Need America Blamed Or A Pool Peed In!!)
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I DISAGREE! Our town here in the MidWest was flooded by IBP , with these illegals to artificially inflate the supply of labor. The result, thousands of illegals here taking jobs w/o having to pay any taxes. The result. Skyrocketing social service costs, collapsed property values and Americans moving from their place of birth to avoid the chaos.

<<<"It's not jobs Americans don't want to do. These are wages and working conditions Americans don't want to accept," says Ira Melman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, an opponent of lowering the barriers for undocumented workers.

"Why not let the free market determine what wages ought to be instead of flooding the market with low-wage, foreign labor?" he asks. >>>
It's TIME to stem the tide!


18 posted on 01/18/2005 7:21:51 AM PST by Jazzman1
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To: ClintonBeGone
This country continues to be built on the back of hard working, dedicated immigrants.

As the grandson of two legal immigrants and the husband of one, I object to your calling these people "immigrants."

They are illegal aliens and criminals.

They have no permission to be here, their status is in no way permanent, and thus they don't even meet the formal definition of the word "immigrant."

19 posted on 01/18/2005 7:23:54 AM PST by angkor
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To: ClintonBeGone

How about Clintonbegone...begone.


21 posted on 01/18/2005 7:25:46 AM PST by jeremiah (Either take the gloves off of our troops, or let them come home NOW)
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who is thankful for the work that has allowed her to send money home to her six children in Mexico

she vowed that she would send money back to her mother and four children

Always the same old story. Have babies before you can afford to support them, then be a slave laborer for the rest of your life (or a taxpayer-moocher, if you're "legal"). I feel sorry for the kids, but I don't have one iota of sympathy for the parents.

22 posted on 01/18/2005 7:26:09 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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Cry me a river...what a crock a slop. Just who in the heck do ya think cleaned up slaughter houses before the "great illegal migrant rush"? We did..that's who. Be we Irish, German, you name it..WE DID IT!! LEGALLY.

I am sick to death of this crap. If the government wasn't so cozy with the industries..hey..there wouldn't even be this discussion.
Cause common sense would prevail.

Where is the insentive to hire legal Americans? Seems the companies as well as the individual migrants can break any law they want .. no one gets in trouble. But hey...try to voice your opinion about this and you'll get hit with hate crime speech.

Things are gonna be what things are gonna be. But at the VERY least..Pres. Bush and others ought to be honest about the whole deal.

And yes..I voted for him. And yes, this is a topic that makes me want to take it back some days.


24 posted on 01/18/2005 7:28:20 AM PST by stillafreemind
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"Carlos Meija, a short, muscular 36-year-old undocumented immigrant from Mexico..."

Undocumented immigrant???? That right there should tell you that this article is full of Liberal crap. That is PC for ILLEGAL ALIEN.

My mother and I became citizens of this fantastic country legally. These people make me sick. Those who break our laws do NOT deserve to be here.


31 posted on 01/18/2005 7:31:03 AM PST by bearkat
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To: ClintonBeGone
Oh, Boo! Hoo!

The woman is a lawbreaker.

She works hard, so what? So do many American Citizens who are most likely going to pay for the medical care that IS AVAILABLE to her, the food stamps that ARE AVAILABLE to her, this story is pure BS - no matter how hard she's working, how bad she has it, she is a LAWBREAKER.

No Amnesty for Illegals.
32 posted on 01/18/2005 7:31:09 AM PST by hushpad (Come on baby. . .Don't fear the FReeper. . .)
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We have disease-ridden illegal invaders combining with criminal companies to insert germs and bodily fluids into our food supply. I goes unreported and therefore undealt with. IF they did not have the illegal aliens as co-conspiritors the companies could not cover up that junk. They would have to pay more to fill the work and institute more sanitary practices. Sure food prices would go up, but it would be safer, better food. I'd rather pay a dime more a pound for food that does not challenge my immune system every meal.

Get the criminal invaders out- shut the criminal companies that conspire with them down.


33 posted on 01/18/2005 7:32:25 AM PST by Ahban
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She is dizzy, almost wobbly. Her head aches, her coughing won't stop, and because she doesn't have enough money she has not filled her four prescriptions nor seen a doctor recently.

I don't have health insurance either.

39 posted on 01/18/2005 7:39:38 AM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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