Posted on 01/13/2005 4:39:06 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage
Rewarding Outlaws
One of the emerging battles in President Bush's second term is going to be what to do about illegal immigration.
For those of you a bit desensitized by the practice, allow me to bring you back up to speed. Illegal immigration happens when illegal aliens illegally break the laws of the United States and illegally sneak into this country. Make sense? I thought so.
Anyway, George Bush wants to institute a sort of blanket amnesty for illegals. Rather than enforce the law, which would mean rounding up the illegal aliens and shipping them back to Mexico, the president wants to give them a pass. A working pass, that is. Under the president's plan, illegal aliens would be allowed to apply for and receive a work permit to work in this country legally. This would put them on a path to citizenship. In other words, they would be rewarded for breaking our laws? So what's wrong with that?
Plenty. First of all, in a post-9/11 world, we should be tightening our borders, not loosening them. If the president gets his way, Al-Qaeda agents would be able to apply for and receive a work permit. This would allow them to freely cross the border every day, in plain sight. Not a good plan.
Second, what are we really doing by encouraging people to illegally enter our country? What do our laws mean if we don't enforce them? Instead of offering amnesty, how about rounding up the illegal aliens and shipping them back to Mexico? That would be a start. By the way, they are illegal aliens...not the more politically correct "undocumented workers" nonsense.
The president has a real battle on his hands. By one member's count, there are 180 GOP members in the House that oppose his plan. We'll see what happens.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Do you believe legalizing illegal workers will take pressure off U.S. borders, as President Bush suggests?
Yes 4%
No 96%
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Gompers, Samuel - (founder and pres. of AFL, an immigrant)
"America must not be overwhelmed. Every effort to enact immigration legislation must expect to meet a number of hostile forces and, in particular, two hostile forces of considerable strength. One of these is composed of corporation employers who desire to employ physical strength (broad backs) at the lowest possible wage and who prefer a rapidly revolving labor supply at low wages to a regular supply of American wage earners at fair wages. The other is composed of racial groups in the United States who oppose all restrictive legislation because they want the doors left open for an influx of their countrymen regardless of the menace to the people of their adopted country."
(Letter to Congress, March 19, 1924)
Bush is out to lunch on the Immigration problem.
I think El Zorro (the Fox) needs to get real and stop them on his side.
The following Teddy Roosevelt quotes can be found in Edmund Morris, The Rise Of Theodore Roosevelt Modern Library 2001)
"There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism...The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin...would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."
(Speech, New York, 1915
After spending several years starting oil exploration crews for Pemex and re-reading Atlas Shrugged, I think I have The reason Mexico has become so bad.
I like the Mexican people in the fly over parts of Mexico. The mid level and workers of Pemex are good. It is the government and the high up in Pemex that are the vultures and looters. The peso was about 8 cents (12.5 to a dollar). When Pemex found the sito grande, a very large oil pool that covers parts of the states of Chiapas and Tabasco also a long ways into the Gulf of Mexico.
Pemex borrowed billions to produce this great oil find. The looters (government) stole most of the money and what they did buy was junk oil rigs and drill pipe, etc. 1,000 pesos which was worth about $80 now will not buy a coke. This was due to the looters stealing billions from the Mexican people.
Instead of overthrowing the looters the Mexican people had an out, they had no weapons and they could cross into America and have a much safer life. This hurts both Mexico and America as Mexico lost some of it's hardest workers. The gangbangers also came over from Mexico as they could rape and pillage at will.
The government of Mexico is propped up by the billions sent back by the illegals and by our government having borders that are too open.
The only chance I see to help America and Mexico is to seal the border, deport the people who are not here legaly. We also need to arm the Mexican people so they can have a chance against the looters with their armies.
Wouldn't that be nice! Instead El Vincente is publishing a how to book to get into the US illegally. Did you see it?
Don't forget the wealth of Mexico, more millionaires and billionaires than Saudi Arabia. $38billion dollars per year being sent south of the border by "temporary workers".
"We also need to arm the Mexican people so they can have a chance against the looters with their armies. "
I've said before, give them each an AK47 and drop them off in Mexico City.
That will never happen.
Other than supreme court nominees, this is one of the biggest domestic issues Bush has to face and horror of horrors, of the two of them, Hillary is (dare I say it?) right! on this issue.
We MUST stop illegal immigration.... Yesterday! Never OH never think that I would ever think of supporting Hitlery!! However, she's astute enough to know that the vast >90% of Americans (voters) support closing our borders to Illegal immigration. If we don't get out in frot of this issue she might actually ride it all the way to the White House. Keep in mind that The Dems have embarked on a scorched earth policy of attacking anything, anyone, & everything the Pubbies support. This will lead the sheeple to anyone who is A. not being vilified and B. has a message (any message) they can support.
You have expressed interest in this subject, please let me know if you want off this ping list.
It concerns me too about what some dems may do with this issue, not that they'd fix it, but they aren't above using it. As in this current poll at CNN, many older and democrats watch CNN. Someone is paying attention to what they think. And when these poll are put here on a republican/conservative website, they don't really change much.
Do you believe legalizing illegal workers will take pressure off U.S. borders, as President Bush suggests?
Yes 5% 164 votes
No 95% 3211 votes
Total: 3375 votes
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Do you believe legalizing illegal workers will take pressure off U.S. borders, as President Bush suggests?
Yes 5% 164 votes
No 95% 3211 votes
Total: 3375 votes
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/
Last night on Mark Edwards radio show, "Wake Up America", he and Terry Anderson read a news story about a young man recently back from Iraq who is recovering from serious wounds, seems like a limb missing, etc. His name is Phil Snider (sp??). He will be joining other concerned citizens for a "rally" on the border in April with the American Patrol Group. Do you know more about him, perhaps something in print?
Maybe, the CBC wants to keep the field hands dependent on them and doesn't want them to have jobs and economic independence. Even union silence is baffling. Endless numbers of Mexican criminals keeps the wage floor low. Ceasation and reversal of Mexican labor would inexorably raise US wage levels. Back in the late '90s, Taco Bell was advertising at $10/hour for "no experience."
Just a mention of the word "amnesty" by BUsh starts another million criminals heading north. Amensty does NOTHING to solve ANY of our problems.
The black community has indeed been dealt a bad deal by this illegal immigration. Terry Anderson speaks of it constantly and if you can catch his show out of LA on radio Sunday nights, you won't be disappointed. He and many in his community have tried for years to get Maxine Waters, et al to listen to their pleas...ZIP. He has recently been interviewed for a spot on network tv.
www.theterryAndersonshow.com
African-Americans drowning in wave
of illegal immigration
By TERRY ANDERSON
THE black community has made great strides in the last few
decades. Racism has certainly not been eradicated, but it is no
longer accepted with a wink and a nod as it once was. We are
proud to see Secretary of State Colin Powell, even when we do
not agree with everything he does. The same with Condoleezza
Rice, the president's national security adviser, and many others.
That's the good news.
The bad news is that in some regions we black folks are so
overwhelmed by the huge numbers of immigrants that we are
being displaced in our schools, jobs and neighborhoods.
That may seem a harsh thing for a black person to say against
brown people, but I don't see it that way. I am an American,
proud of both my nation and my race. What I see in my
community of South Central Los Angeles -- where I have lived
nearly all my life -- is thousands of Mexicans who care nothing
about our traditions and culture, and only want to impose their
way on us. That's not immigration, that is invasion.
It is sad what has happened in my neighborhood. This was a
respectable, blue-collar area of hard-working black folks living in
their bungalows and going to their jobs. In just a couple decades it
has become almost entirely Mexican. They live several families to
a three-bedroom house and keep chickens in the yard, but the
city doesn't care about the zoning violations or the noise of having
so many crowded into a small space.
According to the Census Bureau, nearby Watts is now 60 percent
Hispanic, and it was previously the black community on the West
Coast. No longer.
The immigration situation is really hard on our young people. A
17-year-old kid on my street couldn't get a job at McDonald's
because he didn't speak Spanish. Another young neighbor boy
was thrown into a bilingual classroom at age 8 and was forced to
listen to Spanish all day long. His six-hour school day was turned
into three hours. When his mother asked for an English-only class,
she was told "there are none."
Would you believe that I, a black man, have been called a racist
many times for speaking up against this invasion? I have a radio
program on the subject and therefore hear from a lot of people,
even some in Mexico.
When they call me a racist, I put this question to them: What if a
hundred thousand Vietnamese were suddenly dropped into
Guadalajara? And what if those newcomers didn't speak Spanish,
and further insisted that their children be taught in Vietnamese?
What would you think if they were happy to work for half the
normal wages for any job they could get, thereby putting
thousands of your local Guadalajarans out of work? Would it be
racist to say there was a problem?
When people of good will and good sense hear the situation put
that way, nearly all understand and respect my viewpoint.
Now if only they would listen in Washington. America's political
leaders are the problem. They have been selling out this great
nation for real and imaginary political benefits while ignoring the
dangers. Even after Sept. 11, nothing has been done to plug up
our borders. Another terrorist attack could be 10 times worse,
and it would likely happen because Congress and the president
learned nothing about the need to keep the nation's borders
secure.
If I sound angry, you hear right. Like other Americans, I want
immigration to be legal, controlled and reduced. But as a black
American, I see that the burden my people must carry is heavier
than for many others. I am sure that if Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.,
were alive, he would understand the fundamental unfairness to the
black community of allowing more immigration than the nation can
handle.
If you ain’t mad, you ain’t payin’ attention!
That's great news --- many people are completely ignorant on how bad things are --- they've never taken a tour of the slums of Mexico or Ciudad Juarez --- they have no clue at all ---- they want to Mexicanize the USA without knowing what that really means.
I'm afraid you're right, they seem to want to romanticize Mexico and the entire illegal migration. I've been down there 3 times. Not a bad place to visit, but I don't want to live in Mexico.
It depends on where you go. You can go to the tourist areas and think it's all luxury hotels and nice beaches. You can go to the Zona Rosa and see the opulence and wealth. But you can travel around ---- get out to the outskirts of Mexico City and you're eyes will be opened. Or stay closer to the border --- take a tour of the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez --- or take a high way trip down to Chihuahua and literally see people living out of cardboard boxes. Not homeless bums like you could find in the USA --- but families of many young children.
Thanks for my laugh for the day.
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