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Posted on 12/19/2004 5:50:25 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Social Security Rejects Heterosexual Marriage Documents From Communities That Performed Gay Marriages The Associated Press

NEW PALTZ, N.Y. (AP) - The Social Security Administration is rejecting marriage documents issued for heterosexual couples in four communities that performed weddings for gay couples earlier this year.

The agency is rejecting all marriage certificates issued in New Paltz, N.Y., after Feb. 27, when the town's mayor began marrying gay couples, according to town officials.

Certificates issued during the brief periods when Asbury Park, N.J., Multnomah County, Ore., and Sandoval County, N.M., recognized gay marriages are also being rejected.

Susie Kilpatrick, 30, of New Paltz, said the local Social Security office told her that no marriage documents issued after Feb. 27 could be used to establish identity because of the gay marriages that took place there earlier this year. About 125 heterosexual couples have been married since then.

Kilpatrick said her marriage certificate was rejected when she went to get a new card earlier this month so she could take her husband's name.

"What concerns me is that the certificate is the only way to prove that we're married," she told The New York Times for Sunday editions. "If something happens to us, or some other couple from New Paltz, we can't prove we're married. We would not be able to draw benefits."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New Jersey; US: New York
KEYWORDS: asburypark; gay; homosexualagenda; homosexuallist; lesbian; ma; newjersey; newpaltz; nj; ny; or; paganlifestyle; queer; samesexmarriage; socialsecurity; ssa; unnormal
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1 posted on 12/19/2004 5:50:26 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

A turn of events I bet nobody foresaw.


2 posted on 12/19/2004 5:52:04 PM PST by sionnsar (Merry Christmas from Fraud County, WA. http://www.soundpolitics.com/)
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To: Sub-Driver
The law of unintended consequences or troll bait?
3 posted on 12/19/2004 5:53:07 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I'm gonna hear it for this.)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'd say they need to look closer at who they elect... but I live in a very blue county. (King Fraud County, WA -- Seattle.)
4 posted on 12/19/2004 5:54:48 PM PST by sionnsar (Merry Christmas from Fraud County, WA. http://www.soundpolitics.com/)
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To: Sub-Driver
I Blog BooksOkay, next - San Francisco...
5 posted on 12/19/2004 5:55:49 PM PST by dr_pat (Where my vote? Prove my vote count! Me difrenchantized in California!)
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To: Sub-Driver

When a county throws its credibility out the window by breaking the law, what is social security supposed to do?


6 posted on 12/19/2004 6:01:40 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: sionnsar

So they're not only poisoning our kids' minds and human bloodlines, they're tainting our paper trails (AGAIN), eh? History revision at work!

Sounds like SS is making a BIG pre-emptive move, equal opportunity style....sounds like something to watch closely.


7 posted on 12/19/2004 6:02:41 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (REMEMBER THE ALGOREAMO--relentlessly hammer on the TRUTH, like the Dems demand recounts)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why are they accepting Mass & Vermont's queers-mocking-marriage certificate? Social Security is a federal matter, and the federal government is forbidden to recognize Queer Fantasies.


8 posted on 12/19/2004 6:02:44 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Sub-Driver

I like it. Do something stupid and get your credentials stripped. Sounds like accountability to me.


9 posted on 12/19/2004 6:03:00 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: Sub-Driver

Looks like a good opportunity to sue the cities.


10 posted on 12/19/2004 6:05:06 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: sionnsar

Wrong. I've been saying this from the get-go... that gay marriage would become a FEDERAL issue because one of the main reasons gay couples want to get married is so their spouse can have the social security benefits. From the gays I know, this is the primary reason they want to get married. It's all about money from the government.


11 posted on 12/19/2004 6:05:39 PM PST by rintense
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To: Sub-Driver
"They're delving into every aspect of our lives, including marriage," he said. "I'm appalled."

I agree. If the state and federal governments simply quit recognizing marriage and left it to a couple's religious affiliation, The whole marriage/civil union contreversies would be dead.

12 posted on 12/19/2004 6:07:18 PM PST by sonofagun
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To: Sub-Driver
local Social Security office told her that no marriage documents issued after Feb. 27 could be used to establish identity because of the gay marriages that took place there earlier this year.

To all of this forum's " Bush isn't conservative enough," crowd..... Merry Christmas!

13 posted on 12/19/2004 6:08:30 PM PST by j_tull (To all my Christophobic friends, "Merry Christmas!")
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To: rintense

Good point.


14 posted on 12/19/2004 6:10:41 PM PST by sionnsar (Merry Christmas from Fraud County, WA. http://www.soundpolitics.com/)
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To: rintense
I agree 100%. What happens when Mass. allows gay marriages and Ohio doesn't? Can Ohio say we're not going to pay for Mass.'s gays? Will Ohio decide it's not fair to their gays to not get the benefits that Mass. gays do (hence allowing gay marriage in Ohio to spite Mass. and cut off our noses)?
15 posted on 12/19/2004 6:12:39 PM PST by ohCompGk
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To: Sub-Driver

What will the AARP do with the 98% of the members who don't wan't their benefits reduced in order to federally fund the recreational sex of homosexuals?

If this time when democrats are salivating at protecting social security viability, their homosexual core group will make demands that will further weaken social security. This is going to be fun.

Of course this will also be used to challenge the federal law of DMA. This will revive more of the Federal Marriage Amendment.


16 posted on 12/19/2004 6:13:50 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Sub-Driver
In 1980 I was visiting Northern California - and my cousin (a then-closeted lesbian) invited me to have lunch in San Francisco with a friend of hers. As we drove into the city my cousin turned to me and said "This friend of mine is a lesbian - I just don't want you to be surprised."

We have a nice lunch, and in conversation my cousin's friend makes reference to "my husband". I guess my Midwestern jaw was on the table - so she took the time to explain that she was married to a gay male flight attendant for United, while she worked for the City of San Francisco. She got travel benefits as the spouse of a United employee, he got great health benefits as the spouse of a City employee. They met every 6 months or so to exchange paperwork, and that was it.

This was in 1980.

I bet the census records (particularly in San Francisco) are full of these sham marriages and the percentage of non-marriage "marriages" is probably in the low single digits. Definitely not an argument to allow gay marriage - just something to consider when someone argues for the sanctity of heterosexual marriage - i.e., sadly, it's been pretty polluted already.

17 posted on 12/19/2004 6:23:50 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: j_tull
"To all of this forum's " Bush isn't conservative enough," crowd..... Merry Christmas!"

To this forum's "Bush can do no wrong crowd. . .

You'll probably find that Bush knows nothing of this and it's a decision by some low level Democrat bureaucrat or holdover from Clinton and it is not to punish the folks who performed the illegal marriages between homosexuals, but rather an attempt to punish heterosexuals.

18 posted on 12/19/2004 6:25:54 PM PST by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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To: ohCompGk; sionnsar

This is exactly why there needs to be a federal amendment.


19 posted on 12/19/2004 6:31:59 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense

I agree rintense. A large number of AIDS infected people, and people with HIV are on SSD (disability through the Social Security Laws) as well. Are there survivor benefits through Social Security?


20 posted on 12/19/2004 6:34:50 PM PST by McGavin999 (Senate is trying to cover their A$$es with Rumsfeld hide)
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