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Here we stand: The real reason they hate America
The Star (South Chicago) ^ | 12/19/4 | Michael J. Bowers

Posted on 12/19/2004 7:30:57 AM PST by SmithL

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To: SmithL
...Mr. Kenney laid out seven reasons to explain why the rest of the world — specifically, the Muslim world — professes a deep hatred for America:

Our power, wealth and "hegemony." Our "anti-democratic policies." "Globalization." Our "uncritical support for Israel." Our "arrogance, jingoism and Americanism." Islamism and anti-Americanism. George W. Bush...

Translation - We (socialists/terrorists) hate the USA because we are not in charge.

The best way to end war and ensure peace is to kill the enemy.

41 posted on 12/19/2004 9:05:27 AM PST by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: starfish923
I love going to Europe. I feel very comfortable there, especially while sitting around in their restrooms.
42 posted on 12/19/2004 9:11:41 AM PST by rock58seg (Real Conservatives don't care what McCain thinks.)
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To: SmithL

It jsut HIT me!! I was looking out my window at the Snow and the quetion is:

1. How do we write our name in the snow

2, Will this cause a great decreas in the amount of YELLOW SNOW that is made?


43 posted on 12/19/2004 9:14:50 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: SmithL

I have a solution for you guys that protest with your toilet seat. Do what you want but be sure to clean up your mess before some raging female sits in it. It's an easy compromise to maintain the male ego.


44 posted on 12/19/2004 9:41:08 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
Bah, humbug and pfuooey. No breaks.

The author is ignorantly confusing the Declaration of Independence with the Constitution. My irate acquaintances were ignorantly attributing the Articles of Confederation to the Confederate States of America. Europeans who want men to sit and squirt are ignorantly assuming it all will fit inside the seat and not peel the paint off the far wall. And, our stupid state highway department has parked vehicles blocking the road to my favorite hunting grounds. (I don't know why.) So I had to come home to cure my ignorance of other routes to good hunting.

It looks like I'll just have to call in sick to work tomorrow.

45 posted on 12/19/2004 9:44:04 AM PST by JohnCliftn
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To: TWohlford
One of the "tricks" of rhetoric is to take the crazies of a movement and make them symbolize the entire group. It's entertaining, it's emotionally powerful, sometimes funny... and almost always somewhat dishonest.

It's dishonest when it's expressed on DU and it's dishonest when it's expressed on this forum. I am guilty of it because of exactly what you said. "It is entertaining" I just need to remember that the crazies at DU do not represent the views of my 84 year old democrat voting mother.

I tend to demonize the left but people like my mother give me a reality check - She's wrong in her political views but she's no demon.

46 posted on 12/19/2004 9:45:47 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Spec.4 Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: starfish923
"Europe is our best friend. We are part of them and vica versa, no matter how anyone cares to feel about current politics."

I'm amused to see such a statement. I'm wondering how, without direct military attack against the US, France could establish itself as more of an enemy than they've already proved to be.

My mind quickly springs back to the "Eldorado Canyon" raid on Libya, when France refused the US rights to overfly their country, forcing the attacking US Air Force to circumnavigate France in to and out of the strike. This incident certainly isn't the oldest, nor the newest example. I'm not yet finished reading "Our Oldest Enemy" : A History of America's Disastrous Relationship with France by JOHN J. MILLER, MARK MOLESKY. So, I don't feel I'd be honest in recommending the book as a resource for your "enlightenment." However, what I've read so far is outstanding. Perhaps you weren't thinking of the damned French when you made your comment. A ll that prevents an open French declaration of war against the US is their grotesque lack of courage. Our response to their treachery of recent decades should be measured...in mega-tonnage.
While the British are certainly our friends and allies, as are some other European nations, Europe certainly cannot be categorized as our "fiend" in totality.
47 posted on 12/19/2004 9:45:55 AM PST by RavenATB
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To: RavenATB

What you said and yes I have read the book. It is a real eye opener. I knew my ancestors were on to something when they left france. :0


48 posted on 12/19/2004 9:52:04 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: jeremiah
They hate us because they rightfully fear our culture. Just 5 decades ago, we too would see the images on MTV, prime time shows, and movies, and reject totally this imposition on our children. Now we are smarter, and see the trashing of traditional images, and the sexualization of children, as normal.

I share some of your concern, but think about this. They should fear our culture, because it will destroy theirs.

Our culture is overindulgant and spoiled, often placing gratification over self denial and responsibility. But all things considered, it's undeniably vastly better than Islamic theocracy, Communism, or generic dictatorship.

Our culture is a poison to tyrants of all kinds. It twists and subverts their dreams from power and greatness to freedom and pleasure. 'Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' often allows people to live irresponsibly, but it's a far cry better than people being forced to act at the whims of thugs.

Your concern is noted, and understood. We should strive to lead better lives, and promote the choice of moral behavior. But the dark underbelly of our society, while harmful to us, is outright deadly to cultures of repression and intimidation. They fear us for good reason, because freedom will break their petty hold on power.

49 posted on 12/19/2004 9:55:50 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: APFel

Do a Google on sitzpinkler.


50 posted on 12/19/2004 10:03:20 AM PST by mjbowers
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To: Paleo Conservative

One day in Indianapolis I happened to go into the old train station built in 1888 and used a bathroom. There in the bathroom behind plexiglass was the original urnials from the 1890's. They was Massive things almost as tall as a man and they made the current urnials look puny.

I just had to think that the Men of that era was more impressive than todays men.


51 posted on 12/19/2004 10:07:44 AM PST by Swiss
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To: RavenATB; starfish923
Perhaps you weren't thinking of the damned French when you made your comment.

Well the Fench have done as much to screw much of the reast of Europe too, so it's not like we are alone the victoms of French bs. Europe as a whole has as much reason to hate Paris as we Americans do (indeed they've had a good reason for a lot longer). One day the reast of Europe will have to humble the City of Lights into accepting that it will never be the Europian capital it has aspired to be since 1500s.

52 posted on 12/19/2004 10:08:01 AM PST by Pelayo
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To: mjbowers

August 20, 2004. Sitzpinkler. Posted by Bill on August 20, 2004 09:30 AM | TrackBack. Comments. Another reason to recall the troops from Germany. They're Gerpussenvhipped. Posted by: Wind Rider on August 20, 2004 09:49 AM ... thought the French were the ones who pioneered the Sitzpinkler movement. Well, sounds like something those nancy-boys ...
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(note: the french are behind everything..so to speak)


53 posted on 12/19/2004 10:11:17 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: conqueror
"Nein mit der bein prouden und standen mit der hosen fer der Fraulein to gazen on und be getten der envy."

Donka shane fur das aptly descriptioneeren!

Zee hot mine belly jigglen und long out-laffen causen!

54 posted on 12/19/2004 10:29:02 AM PST by nightdriver
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To: conqueror

Ich auch. Gelacht so stark urinated ich in meinen Hosen. Nun da die vollständige Frage löst. Danke!

(Me also..Laughed so hard I urinated in my pants. Now that solves the whole question. Thanks!)


55 posted on 12/19/2004 11:30:25 AM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: Pelayo
Well then, we can all agree to hate France, as is appropriate. Thankfully, we'll never have to kick their butts as the sheer threat of force would leave the entire Vichy nation cowering in a huge puddle of pee.
56 posted on 12/19/2004 12:01:56 PM PST by RavenATB
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To: SmithL
I'll clean the toilet but there ain't no way you can make me sit.
57 posted on 12/19/2004 12:27:34 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (I believe in American Exceptionalism! Do you?)
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To: SmithL

Just pee in the sink. It makes a great urinal.


58 posted on 12/19/2004 12:31:12 PM PST by Chewbacca (Happy Jesus' Birthday to everyone!!!!!)
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To: RavenATB

"Well then, we can all agree to hate France, as is appropriate. Thankfully, we'll never have to kick their butts as the sheer threat of force would leave the entire Vichy nation cowering in a huge puddle of pee."
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Would like to add this comment to my about page in your honor, if you would be so kind as to allow it.


59 posted on 12/19/2004 1:02:16 PM PST by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants)
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To: general_re
Sehr gut!
60 posted on 12/19/2004 1:37:12 PM PST by BenLurkin (Big government is still a big problem.)
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