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Mineta, Bureaucrats Stall Effort to Arm Pilots
Human Events ^ | 17 December 2004 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 12/17/2004 4:14:47 PM PST by 45Auto

Members of Congress are becoming frustrated with bureaucrats who have put roadblocks in the way of a program to arm airline pilots that Congress first authorized months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Three years later, only an estimated 4,000 of the more than 95,000 commercial pilots have participated in the Federal Flight Deck Officer (FFDO) program. But this lack of participation does not indicate a lack of pilot interest, proponents say. They claim the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) has intentionally stymied the program.

A soon-to-be-released poll from the pro-gun Airline Pilots Security Alliance indicates upwards of 50,000 commercial pilots would like to become FFDOs, but are reluctant to participate because, as the program has been implemented by TSA, they can only train at a remote desert facility in Artesia, N.M., and they aren't allowed to carry their firearm in a holster outside the cockpit of their plane. Instead, they must carry it around in a bulky 6-pound lockbox.

The program has faced an uphill battle from the start. Anti-gun Transportation Secretary Norm Mineta, the lone Democrat in the Bush Cabinet, refused to establish the program after Congress authorized it in November 2001. It took additional congressional action a year later, in December 2002, to force TSA to act. Problems remain, however, that lawmakers say TSA has refused to fix.

Congressional efforts to modify the program have run into obstacles on Capitol Hill as well. The House version of the just-passed intelligence bill included language offered by Rep. John Mica (R.-Fla.) to improve the program, but Senate opponents--notably anti-gun Senators Joe Lieberman (D.-Conn.) and Jay Rockefeller (D.-W.Va.)--saw that it was cut before final passage, according to congressional aides.

Two leading proponents of the program--Sen. Jim Bunning (R.-Ky.) and Rep. Joe Wilson (R.-S.C.)--told HUMAN EVENTS they were frustrated by the inaction. Both placed blame on TSA for failing to adopt "common-sense" changes.

"The people who are pilots are professionals. We wouldn't get on the plane if we didn't have faith in them, so I'm just absolutely shocked that there would be any concern," said Wilson, who introduced a bill in April with Bunning to do away with the lockboxes.

Even though lawmakers and pilots have complained about the lockboxes, TSA spokeswoman Deirdre O'Sullivan said they're not going away. "The way in which the legislation was written originally said that the area of jurisdiction for federal flight deck officers is the cockpit," she said. (Earlier this year, however, TSA took the liberty of changing its practice of requiring the lockboxes to be stowed with checked luggage. After several firearms were reported missing, pilots were told to carry the lockbox at all times.)

Today, an estimated 100 pilots are trained each week, although TSA, citing security risks, refuses to release official figures. The facility's location--Artesia is at least four hours from Albuquerque, N.M., El Paso and Lubbock, Tex.--has slowed its growth, according to Dave Mackett, a pilot and president of the Airline Pilots Security Alliance. TSA's O'Sullivan disputed the charges, and said the TSA would expand if demand were to increase.

Bunning, meanwhile, said he would introduce legislation next year to keep pressure on TSA. "I think there is no question that we will get major improvements on the flexibility on how you carry and the things that we put into our bill," he told HUMAN EVENTS. "It's a bureaucratic layer we're going to have to cut through."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armedpilots; bang; commies; mineta; minnow; moron; obstructionist; tsa
Why, oh why did not the President can this idiot RAT-scumbag, this holdover from the Clinton regime????
1 posted on 12/17/2004 4:14:48 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto

aka "Underperformin' Norman"


2 posted on 12/17/2004 4:15:27 PM PST by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules)
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To: 45Auto

It should be easy enough for Congress to simply REQUIRE all pilots to be armed with sidearms at all times, and at the same time provide capital punishment as the penalty for anyone who interferes with this requirement.


3 posted on 12/17/2004 4:20:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: 45Auto

That is a very serious question. Why is Mineta still there? Why will Bush not secure the borders? Sup wi dat?


4 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:19 PM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......Does anyone see it yet?....)
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The Pres is taking a big chance with this crap; one more little horrendous event involving a commercial airliner that could have been prevented by a single armed member of the flight crew, and Norm might find himself on the short end of a rope. Instead of arming the pilots and/or flight deck crew, the TSA implements total body cavity searches of little old Norwegian grandmothers at airports around the country. And Norman the Numbnuts (also known as Mineta the Minnow), more afraid of a gun in the hands of the good guys than he is of Mooooslim fanatics, would rather spend billions on inept (and possibly perverted) airport screeners then on $700 for a good USP or Sig .45 Auto. The RATs are nuts; and Bush is nuts for leaving this guy in the Cabinet.
5 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:47 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Mineta is such a pathetic piece of crap. "Don't arm the pilots" and "make sure we treat 80-year-old grandmothers the same as young men from the Middle East".

The US has ceased to be a serious country when nitwits like this are still in power.


6 posted on 12/17/2004 4:21:49 PM PST by waterman478
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Until the mid '50s pilots on all comercial aircraft that carried the US Mail were required to be armed.
I think this was a holdover from arming the agents on railroad mailcars in hte old west.

It should be easy for congress to go around Minetta by simply mandating that all pilots on all aircraft that might carry the mail be armed.

So9

7 posted on 12/17/2004 4:23:43 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Goldwater Republican)
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To: 45Auto

---and the Senate Republidums are also to blame for letting Rockefeller and Lieberman run things in the Senate---


8 posted on 12/17/2004 4:24:45 PM PST by rellimpank
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Everyone e-mail the president and tell him to dump Mineta. THe moron does not get it !


9 posted on 12/17/2004 4:25:57 PM PST by Pedrobud (Thank GOD Bush won !! America is smarter than many thought !!)
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THe moron is Mineta, not the pres


10 posted on 12/17/2004 4:26:29 PM PST by Pedrobud (Thank GOD Bush won !! America is smarter than many thought !!)
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What we need is someone with a rational thought in his head as the Secretary of the TSA. The whole thing could have been handled had Bush requested Norm's resignation. Congress has already mandated arming the pilots; its one guy, this moron, this miscreant, this gun-hating RAT bastard that is holding up the whole works.


11 posted on 12/17/2004 4:27:05 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Mineta is a threat to the security of the USA. Why Bush did not can him is beyond me.
12 posted on 12/17/2004 4:42:15 PM PST by Uncle Hal
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The US has ceased to be a serious country when nitwits like this are still in power.

Amen! Amen! Amen!

13 posted on 12/17/2004 4:48:23 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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Why, oh why did not the President can this idiot RAT-scumbag, this holdover from the Clinton regime????

Obviously Bush agrees with everything Mineta is doing.

14 posted on 12/17/2004 4:51:26 PM PST by skip_intro
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Everyone e-mail the president and tell him to dump Mineta. THe moron does not get it !

No one reads the President's email. The fax line is hard to get through. You have to send him a real snail-mail letter and/or call him on his comment line.
The President's mailing address is: The White House, Washington, D.C. 20500
His fax number is: (202) 456-2461.
His comment line is (202) 456-1111.


source:  http://www.scottbieser.com/images/Sept11_c540.jpg  
found at:  http://www.scottbieser.com/polArt.htm

15 posted on 12/17/2004 5:38:44 PM PST by FreeKeys ("Every citizen should be a soldier." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 45Auto
The article doesn't even mention that the pilots are required to undergo a psychiatric exam before entering the program. An exam that could result in the end of their career is some shrink decides the pilot has "issues".
16 posted on 12/17/2004 5:40:38 PM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: 45Auto

BTTT


17 posted on 12/17/2004 5:41:51 PM PST by hattend (Christ is the reason for the season)
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To: 45Auto

I'm convinced that Mineta must have pictures of "W" being intimate with a cocker spaniel or something. There seems no other possible reason that he would keep this flaming idiot around.


18 posted on 12/17/2004 6:13:09 PM PST by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Time is now

That's what I want to know: why is he still there????


19 posted on 12/19/2004 12:31:30 PM PST by STARWISE (Pray for our country, our incredible President, and our unbelievably brave troops.)
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