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Mexico has more Billionaires than Saudi Arabia
CNN - LOU DOBBS TONIGHT ^ | 12/17/04-Aired 12/16/04 | cnn

Posted on 12/17/2004 12:47:05 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage

DOBBS: Tonight, an estimated 15 million illegal aliens live in this country, at least half of them from Mexico. Many are here because they chose to flee crushing poverty in Mexico.

But, in point of fact, Mexico is one of the richest countries in Latin America, amongst -- the millionaires, billionaires and its wealth concentrated in the hands of very few.

CASEY WIAN: They sneak across the border seeking jobs they can't find in Mexico. The question isn't why they come, it's why can't Mexico's economy support its own people.

Nearly half of Mexico's population lives in poverty. Ten percent are indigent, existing on a dollar a day. Yet the nation has vast wealth. Mexico has more "Forbes" billionaires, 11, than all but eight other nations. It has more billionaires than Saudi Arabia, Switzerland or Taiwan. It also has more than 85,000 millionaires.

GEORGE W. GRAYSON, OF WILLIAM & MARY: There is a small economic elite who live like maharajas, and there's a political elite that protects them. Our border provides an escape valve which really lets the Mexican political and economic elite off the hook in terms of providing opportunities for their own people.

WIAN : About 10 percent of Mexico's 105 million people live here in the United States. They're called national heroes by President Vicente Fox because this year they'll send home about $16 billion,***** more than any Mexican industry except oil.******

Mexico's outdated tax system is plagued by widespread tax evasion. It collects taxes at less than half the rate of the United States. As a result, Mexico's public-school and health-care systems suffer.

WIAN: Meanwhile, the gap between rich and poor is growing. So Mexico continues to export one of its most valuable assets, people.

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(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; billionaires; corruption; illegalimmigration; immigration; mexico; money; security; wealth; welfare
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DOBBS: And a federal judge in Texas today dismissed charges against a defendant in an illegal alien smuggling case. The judge says there was no evidence the defendant profited from the smuggling scheme. Nineteen people were found dead in a truck found in southern Texas in 2003. Two co-defendants will stay on trial in that case
1 posted on 12/17/2004 12:47:06 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage
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To: JustAnotherSavage
Mexico has more Billionaires than Saudi Arabia

A meaningless statistic and title. China has more billionaires than Sweeden. So what. Mexico has ten times as many people as Saudi also.

2 posted on 12/17/2004 12:50:22 PM PST by staytrue
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To: JustAnotherSavage
It (Mexico) also has more than 85,000 millionaires.

Yes, but those are in Peso's. ;)

3 posted on 12/17/2004 12:50:59 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("My only regret in life is that none of my children are gay." - Sharon Osborne)
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To: staytrue

Just more populist idiocy.


4 posted on 12/17/2004 12:51:54 PM PST by Clemenza (Morford 2008: Not that there's anything wrong with it!)
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To: gubamyster; Joe Hadenuf; DoughtyOne; FBD; ApesForEvolution

The rest of this transcript is worth the read. Must go now and meet a client. Have a good day.


DOBBS: The invasion of illegal aliens into this country is one of several threats to our wealth, our standard of living, our quality of life. Another is our exploding trade deficit and the rising export of American wealth overseas. The trend is beginning to discourage if none at home, some at least in foreign countries who are investing in this country.

Lisa Sylvester reports from Washington.

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LISA SYLVESTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The current account balance reflects what Americans earn and what they spend, including trade and international investment. The picture is not very pretty.

The United States last made ends meet in 1991 with a $10-1/2 billion surplus. Since then, the current account balance has been freefalling. The current account deficit for the last three months alone reached a record $164.7 billion.

To put that number into context, that's larger than Portugal's entire economy. Economists say we may be headed toward a day of reckoning.

CATHERINE MAIN, INSTITUTE FOR INTERNATIONAL ECONOMICS: Right now, basically, the entire deficit can be accounted for by the trade deficit in consumer goods and automobiles.

SYLVESTER: Americans are on a spending spree, but they're not buying American goods. So the money to finance the buying binge has come from foreigners.

China and Japan are the largest foreign holders of U.S. Treasury securities, but foreigners are increasingly growing skittish because of the large U.S. trade and budget deficits.


5 posted on 12/17/2004 12:52:35 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

So seal the borders and let the billionaires over in Mexico solve the problems there. The ones we have here in the states keep thinking they can solve ours...


6 posted on 12/17/2004 12:54:50 PM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And if you can't be good, be careful.)
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To: staytrue
" Mexico has ten times as many people as Saudi also."

10% of Mexico is living in the USA, are you suggesting we take that number from all countries illegally?

7 posted on 12/17/2004 12:55:47 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("As frightening as terrorism is, it's the weapon of losers." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Clemenza
Just more populist idiocy.

Precisely.


8 posted on 12/17/2004 12:58:02 PM PST by rdb3 (Can I join the Pajamahadeen even if I sleep in the nude?)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Here's a little example. In two years the US is changing the broadcast standard for TVs. Most of the country will be buying HDTV's between this Christmas season and January 2007. How many of those sets will be manufactured in the US of A. None!


9 posted on 12/17/2004 12:58:58 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: staytrue
Mexico has ten times as many people as Saudi also.

Mexico has a population of 105 million. Saudi Arabia has a population of 26 million.

Mexico's GDP is about $1T. SA's is about $300B.

So Mexico's population is only 4 times the size of SA's and their economy is only 3 times the size of SA's.

10 posted on 12/17/2004 1:03:46 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

I only point out that the title is silly and a useless fact.

You need to use per capita billionaires for a comparison.

I said nothing about immigration at all.


11 posted on 12/17/2004 1:08:44 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Perhaps meaningless. But maybe not. For example:

Midland, Texas has more billionaires than Houston and Dallas combined.


12 posted on 12/17/2004 1:12:15 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: wideawake

Glad your numbers are accurate, I was just guessing.

One more thing:

People
Nationality: Noun--Saudi(s). Adjective--Saudi Arabian or Saudi. Population (2003 est.): 24.3 million (18.7 million Saudis, 5.6 million foreign nationals).

If you discount foreign nationals, I suspect the ratio is more like 5.2 to 1 and not 4 to one.


13 posted on 12/17/2004 1:14:27 PM PST by staytrue
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To: MeanWestTexan

Another silly and useless fact, there are more white people on welfare than black in the USA (not per capita rates, just total numbers).


14 posted on 12/17/2004 1:16:11 PM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Don't forget that half the men in prison are black.

No, wait. . . .


15 posted on 12/17/2004 1:18:34 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Michael.SF.
It (Mexico) also has more than 85,000 millionaires.
Yes, but those are in Peso's. ;)

For reference: 1M Mexican Pesos = $88,548USD (as of 12/14/2004)

16 posted on 12/17/2004 1:19:07 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

It's s double edged sword. Historically, Mexico has been more feudal and less bourgeois than the US. The downside is that middle class is not well developed. There is less of a supportive environment for start ups and indigenous major companies; those with wealth have little interest in being big business people or in supporting start ups. There is only a very small venture capital system. The upside is, people are more religious and more family oriented. No doubt, the power of the Roman Catholic Church plays its role. Overall, Mexico has a less debauched culture than the US. If Mexico is to truly shine economicially, somehow those with assets need to be convinced to invest them in native major businesses. An entrepreneurial group needs to be developed more.


17 posted on 12/17/2004 1:20:28 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Michael.SF.
"The peso declined 0.3 percent to 11.2933 per dollar at 12:13 p.m. in New York. It has lost 0.6 percent this year, the only one of the 16 major currencies tracked by Bloomberg to show a decline against the dollar" source

Since when did Mexico start a "strong Peso" policy? 8^)

18 posted on 12/17/2004 1:20:59 PM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Good article. Reforming Mexican government ought to be near the top of our foreign policy agenda.


19 posted on 12/17/2004 1:21:31 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: GOP_1900AD
Historically, Mexico has been more feudal and less bourgeois than the US

Feudalism is a worldwide problem including the US, although feudalism is less in the US than anywhere else.

Microsoft is one of the best examples of the rich trying to destroy all competitors. That is what happens in Mexico. If you start becoming successful, the established order will try to smack you down. It happens in the US and everywhere really, but Less here than anywhere, which is why we always have the best economy in the world.

20 posted on 12/17/2004 1:27:13 PM PST by staytrue
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