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CALIFORNIA! HAD ENOUGH? DO THIS NOW!
SAVE OUR COUNTRY ^ | 12.8.04 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 12/08/2004 6:46:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf

My wife and I just printed this petition and filled it out. It took 5 minutes to print, fill it out, and put in an envelope.

THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. GET OFF BUTT AND DO IT NOW!

IT IS A PETITION TO STOP THIS ILLEGAL ALIEN LUNACY.

INITIATIVE MEASURE TO BE SUBMITTED DIRECTLY TO VOTERS The Attorney General of California has prepared the following title and summary of the chief purpose and points of the proposed measure:

DRIVER’S LICENSES. COLLEGE EXPENSES. PUBLIC BENEFITS. ELIGIBILITY OF ILLEGAL ALIENS. INITIATIVE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT. Prohibits aliens unlawfully in United States from obtaining: a driver’s license or government identification card; a college fee or tuition exemption; government grant, contract, loan; a professional or commercial license; or any other public benefit not required by federal law. Authorizes any state citizen to sue to enforce prohibitions, requires State to defend initiative, and provides costs and attorney’s fees to prevailing party.

Makes any elected or government official who willfully violates the prohibitions personally liable for litigation costs, attorney’s fees, and actual damages.

PLEASE! DON'T DO IT FOR ME. Do it for your yourself and your kids, AND your country.

HERE IS THE LINK. Go to it now, and take 5 short minutes to fill it out, and mail it.

http://www.saveourlicense.com/pdfs/SOL_Petition.pdf


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1 posted on 12/08/2004 6:46:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Time for a major league TAX REVOLD!!!


2 posted on 12/08/2004 6:49:55 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Joe Hadenuf

BTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


3 posted on 12/08/2004 6:54:07 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (Proud Patriots dot com! Check it out!!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Done!


4 posted on 12/08/2004 6:56:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Done.


5 posted on 12/08/2004 6:57:06 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Get all your friends and aquintences to sign it also!

The e-mail I got from them today said that they only had 150,000 signatures so far and they need over 600,000 valid signatures.

Donations are also greatly appreciated, at the end of Juanary they are going to try to use paid circulaters to get any shortfall and it will take a lot of money for that.

If you don't want to fool with the 2 signature petitions that are downloadable, you can contact them asnd they will mail you one for 6 signatures but that also costs them money.


6 posted on 12/08/2004 6:58:47 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Joe Hadenuf; All

NEW POLL UP!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Do you support legislation that would secure our borders and reform immigration law?

Yes 96% 3151 votes

No 4% 141 votes

Total: 3292 votes


7 posted on 12/08/2004 7:02:31 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

It is wise that the initiative seemingly does not prohibit illegals from attending public secondary schools, or availing themselves of emergency medicial care. Mark me down as undecided for the present. I want to hear the debate from both sides.


8 posted on 12/08/2004 7:03:29 PM PST by Torie
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To: AuntB

"Do you support legislation that would secure our borders and reform immigration law?"

Being from him that's a loaded question!

I'm 100% for reforming immigration law but 100% against what Bush is proposing!


9 posted on 12/08/2004 7:05:53 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

I've got the petitions and the ones they mailed have 10 signers each. Now, I've got to go out and get this done...crappy weather!
www.SaveOurLicense.com


NEW POLL UP!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/lou.dobbs.tonight/

Do you support legislation that would secure our borders and reform immigration law?

Yes 96% 3151 votes

No 4% 141 votes

Total: 3292 votes



Did you see who the one Republican Senator who stood up for us was?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1297277/posts


10 posted on 12/08/2004 7:06:34 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB
Lou Dobbs, not just another talking head.

Thanks B.

11 posted on 12/08/2004 7:06:35 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Big Time California Tea Party Bump!


12 posted on 12/08/2004 7:07:27 PM PST by WRhine (When America ceases to make manufactured goods, what do we trade with the rest of the world?)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Lou Dobbs has done an awesome job on this. I'm not sure how he's getting away with it.


13 posted on 12/08/2004 7:07:33 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB
"Do you support legislation that would secure our borders and reform immigration law? "

That sounds exactly like President Bush's proposals.

14 posted on 12/08/2004 7:09:23 PM PST by bayourod (Bush said. "Let's see if I can say it as plainly as I can: I am for the intelligence bill.")
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To: dalereed

From who, Dobbs? Do you watch his segments on this subject? If not you're missing some good stuff.


15 posted on 12/08/2004 7:09:28 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Arizona governor signed into law today similar bill passed by voters.more states are doing the same. make sure your from that state when signing. check out www.securedbordersusa.com
16 posted on 12/08/2004 7:10:09 PM PST by ALLAH-ya-out-a-here
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Makes any elected or government official who willfully violates the prohibitions personally liable...

"Personally liable" -- Most excellent!

18 posted on 12/08/2004 7:10:48 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: All

I became suddenly sleepy and bored, so I'll say goodnight. :<)


19 posted on 12/08/2004 7:11:36 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: miramaines

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1297277/posts


20 posted on 12/08/2004 7:13:02 PM PST by AuntB (Every person who enters the U.S. illegally--from anywhere--increases the likelihood of another 9/11)
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To: AuntB

"I've got the petitions and the ones they mailed have 10 signers each"

They must have re designed them. I got mine the first day they mailed them out and went up to Office Depot and printed a bunch of them but they only had room for 6 on a double sided 8 1/2x11 sheet.

I've mailed in 30 signatures so far and still working on it. It's been really pretty easy since I won't do work for democrats or liberals so everyone I do work for signs it.


21 posted on 12/08/2004 7:13:17 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Torie
want to hear the debate from both sides.

Is that allowed?

22 posted on 12/08/2004 7:16:33 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

done! Thanks for the info.


23 posted on 12/08/2004 7:18:05 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: Sparkles

PING


24 posted on 12/08/2004 7:19:01 PM PST by tazman3
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Done!!!!!!


25 posted on 12/08/2004 7:21:47 PM PST by afnamvet (1st SOS Free Republic Pajama Patrol Wing)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

The only problem with this initiative is this: after it is approved by the voters, all it takes is one liberal federal judge to declare the law unconstitutional and after that the entire effort will be for nothing. Until we find some way to control the activist judges, we'll never be able to do much about illegal immigration. Perhaps there's a way to appeal the liberal judge's decision all the way to the SCOTUS if necessary. I don't know why that wasn't done with Prop 187. Perhaps the California AG under Gray-out Davis just decided not to appeal.


26 posted on 12/08/2004 7:23:56 PM PST by carl in alaska (Once a Chargers fan, always a Chargers fan....)
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To: AuntB

Do you support legislation that would secure our borders and reform immigration law?

Why aren't we enforcing our current laws?
Who says we'll enforce any new laws?


27 posted on 12/08/2004 7:24:37 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Where do we send these?


28 posted on 12/08/2004 7:28:54 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: JoeSixPack1
politicians do what ever they need to,too stay in office.
29 posted on 12/08/2004 7:32:27 PM PST by ALLAH-ya-out-a-here
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To: Joe Hadenuf

BTTT


30 posted on 12/08/2004 7:37:28 PM PST by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a death cult that must end. Save your time...)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Been there, done that, your side lost. Remember Prop 187? Learn your lesson.


31 posted on 12/08/2004 7:41:46 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In Politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

I had them mailed to me several weeks ago. Signed, sealed and delivered them already. I sent back 4 completed petitions and have more on hand that I am circulating.


32 posted on 12/08/2004 7:45:01 PM PST by InsensitiveConservative
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Tom Tancredo for President 2008 = Last Hope to Save America
33 posted on 12/08/2004 7:47:34 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: JustAnotherOkie

Sounds series!


34 posted on 12/08/2004 7:50:23 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Do it for your yourself and your kids, AND your country."

Amen.

Time to take matters into our own hands instead of leaving it in the hands of our elitist, corrupt politicians.

I think each one of us can make a difference in the future of our country and our children -- Just don't hire these peoples. And don't support establishments and businesses that hire them. Going out to eat? Don't go where the aliens work. Hiring a contractor? Inform yourself whom you're hiring. Are you in a position at your job or organization to determine whom to hire? Decide against the hiring of Third World illegal aliens. Don't be afraid! Speak up and and inform others. And, most importantly, be aware of the issue constantly and act, behave and think in ways that are detrimental to the illegal aliens that would make them want to go back to where they came from.

Merry Christmas.


35 posted on 12/08/2004 7:52:20 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Thanks Joe, will do.


36 posted on 12/08/2004 7:56:01 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: ClintonBeGone

"your side lost"




uh..Remember Gray Davis, recalled by democrats and republican both over this same issue?


37 posted on 12/08/2004 8:01:11 PM PST by seastay
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To: RightWingMama

"Where do we send these?"

The address is on the bottom of the petition.

Save Our License
P.O. Box 877
Monrovia, CA 91017-0877


38 posted on 12/08/2004 8:02:26 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Please download the petition, fill it out and mail it ASAP. It's about the future of our country and our children. Click the link below.

Save Our License

39 posted on 12/08/2004 8:03:03 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: Baraonda

BUMP!


40 posted on 12/08/2004 8:10:50 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Joe Hadenuf

What good will it do, we already voted for prop 187 and some Federal judge threw it out. The Feds want immigration, we have 65 million people getting ready to retire, how many kids did you have Joe ?


41 posted on 12/08/2004 8:12:08 PM PST by John Lenin (The sky isn't falling, it's just your IQ)
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To: seastay
uh..Remember Gray Davis, recalled by democrats and republican both over this same issue?

LOL keep trying.

42 posted on 12/08/2004 8:16:00 PM PST by ClintonBeGone (In Politics, sometimes it's OK for even a Wolverine to root for a Buckeye win.)
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To: dalereed

I BUMP you to.

Why isn't there an immigration ping list?


43 posted on 12/08/2004 8:20:20 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: John Lenin

"The Feds want immigration, we have 65 million people getting ready to retire"

Just eliminate the unconstitutional SS and Medicare and that problem is solved.

The only reason #187 didn't survive is that Davis and the AG refused to appeal that judges ruling.


44 posted on 12/08/2004 8:23:22 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Baraonda

Since this is totally a California issue the normal ping list isn't much good.


45 posted on 12/08/2004 8:25:52 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Prohibits aliens unlawfully in United States from obtaining: a driver’s license or government identification card; a college fee or tuition exemption; government grant, contract, loan; a professional or commercial license; or any other public benefit not required by federal law"

maybe i'm naive, but why is this a bad thing?


46 posted on 12/08/2004 8:30:32 PM PST by mickeyrig
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To: dalereed

Save the Date!

January 15th is Save Our License Saturday.

We are asking activists throughout the state to schedule a location and time for signature gathering. Email us at locations@saveourlicense.com and we post locations on the Save Our license website, and publicize it as best we can.

This will begin the final push. nts. If you know you will be gathering signatures at a particular location. please let us know.





Congressman Tancredo to Join the Effort!

The US Congress' leading fighter against illegal immigration, Congress Tom Tancredo (R-CO), will be joining us January 14th & 15th for events in California. He is lending his time to assist the Save Our License committee in raising money and public awareness of the petition drive.

Watch our website www.SaveOurLicense.com for further information.




47 posted on 12/08/2004 8:31:47 PM PST by dalereed
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To: carl in alaska
I don't know why that wasn't done with Prop 187. Perhaps the California AG under Gray-out Davis just decided not to appeal.

The AG was instructed by Grey Davis not to appeal. And we are unlikely to see Arnold lift a finger in this regard, either.

48 posted on 12/08/2004 8:34:28 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: LexBaird

"And we are unlikely to see Arnold lift a finger in this regard, either."

Then it will be time to repeal that RINO and elect a real Governor!


49 posted on 12/08/2004 8:36:07 PM PST by dalereed
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To: dalereed

The same thing is happening in Arizona. The Feds are not going to stop immigration. We shall see what the plan is for reform but I'm not counting on it doing much.


50 posted on 12/08/2004 8:39:46 PM PST by John Lenin
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