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Robert Spencer: The Elusive Moderate Muslim
Human Events ^ | November 24, 2004 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 11/24/2004 1:12:03 PM PST by quidnunc

Imam Siraj Wahaj is in great demand. Last week he was a featured speaker at the Mosque for the Praising of Allah in Roxbury, Massachusetts. A few days before that, he addressed four hundred people at a Muslim Students Association gathering at Western Michigan University. His star has shone for years: in 1991, he even became the first Muslim to give an invocation to the U.S. Congress. And why not? Not long after 9/11, he said just what jittery Americans wanted to hear from Muslims: "I now feel responsible to preach, actually to go on a jihad against extremism."

But what he thinks actually constitutes extremism is somewhat unclear; after all, he has also warned that the United States will fall unless it "accepts the Islamic agenda." He has lamented that "if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate." In the early 1990s he sponsored talks by Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman in mosques in New York City and New Jersey; Rahman was later convicted for conspiring to blow up the World Trade Center in 1993, and Wahaj was designated a "potential unindicted co-conspirator."

The fact that someone who would like to see the Constitution replaced has led a prayer for those sworn to uphold it is just a symptom a larger, ongoing problem: the government and media are avid to find moderate Muslims — and as their desperation has increased, their standards have lowered. Unfortunately, it is not so easy to find Muslim leaders who have genuinely renounced violent jihad and any intention, now or in the future, to impose Sharia on non-Muslim countries. The situation is complicated by many factors, including:

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TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: moderateislam; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; robertspencer; wot

1 posted on 11/24/2004 1:12:04 PM PST by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

If the Radical Muslims think that we are going to roll over here like Europe, they are mistaken. We have a little thing called THE SECOND ADMENDMENT that will stop such nonsense.


2 posted on 11/24/2004 1:21:00 PM PST by speed_addiction (Ninja's last words, "Hey guys. Watch me just flip out on that big dude over there!")
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To: quidnunc

read later


3 posted on 11/24/2004 1:21:13 PM PST by Cutterjohnmhb
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To: quidnunc
....he has also warned that the United States will fall unless it "accepts the Islamic agenda."

The Muslim agenda includeds throwing helpless wheelchair invalids overboard and executing children in their classrooms.....among many other horrors that appear in the news every day!

4 posted on 11/24/2004 1:24:52 PM PST by squirt-gun
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To: quidnunc
Robert Spencer: The Elusive Moderate Muslim

The real problem is this, the Elusive become the Extinct as soon as
they've gone public.

It's even more dangerous than being a conservative on the faculty of a university.
6 posted on 11/24/2004 1:26:56 PM PST by VOA
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To: quidnunc
Finding a moderate muslim is like finding a hair of hay in a pile of needles.
7 posted on 11/24/2004 1:27:56 PM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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To: quidnunc

BTTT


8 posted on 11/24/2004 1:29:45 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: quidnunc
But what he thinks actually constitutes extremism is somewhat unclear; after all, he has also warned that the United States will fall unless it "accepts the Islamic agenda." He has lamented that "if only Muslims were clever politically, they could take over the United States and replace its constitutional government with a caliphate."

This is just the point...the ultimate goal of Islam is world domination. The more I learn about it, the more it frightens me, and the more determined I become to fight it.

Read this from the web-site faithfreedom.org, it is very powerful and basically says it all:

A Letter to Mankind

Dear fellow human,

Today humanity is being challenged. Unthinkable atrocities take place on daily basis. There is an evil force at work that aims to destroy us. The agents of this evil respect nothing; not even the lives of children. Every day there are bombings, every day innocent people are targeted and murdered. It seems as if we are helpless. But we are not!

The ancient Chinese sage Sun Zi said, "Know your enemy and you won't be defeated". Do we know our enemy? If we don't, then we are doomed.

Terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tool; but the terrorists kill for an ideology. They call that ideology Islam.

The entire world, both Muslims and non-Muslims claim that the terrorists have hijacked "the religion of peace" and Islam does not condone violence.

Who is right? Do the terrorists understand Islam better, or do those who decry them? The answer to this question is the key to our victory, and failure to find that key will result in our loss and death will be upon us. The key is in the Quran and the history of Islam.

Those of us, who know Islam, know that the understanding of the terrorists of Islam is correct. They are doing nothing that their prophet did not do and did not encourage his followers to do. Murder, rape, assassination, beheading, massacre and sacrilege of the dead "to delight the hearts of the believers" were all practiced by Muhammad, were taught by him and were observed by Muslims throughout their history.

If truth has ever mattered, it matters most now! This is the time that we have to call a spade a spade. This is the time that we have to find the root of the problem and eradicate it. The root of Islamic terrorism is Islam. The proof of that is the Quran.

We are a group of ex-Muslims who have seen the face of the evil and have risen to warn the world. No matter how painful the truth may be, only truth can set us free. Why this much denial? Why so much obstinacy? How many more innocent lives should be lost before YOU open your eyes? A nuclear disaster is upon us. This will happen. It is not a question of "if" but "when". Oblivious of that, the world is digging its head deeper in the sand.

We urge the Muslims to leave Islam. Stop with excuses, justifications and rationalizations. Stop dividing mankind into "us" vs. "them" and Muslims vs. Kafirs. We are One people, One mankind! Muhammad was not a messenger of God. It is time that we end this insanity and face the truth. The terrorists take their moral support and the validation for their actions from you. Your very adherence to their cult of death is a nod of approval for their crimes against humanity.

We also urge the non-Muslims to stop being politically correct lest they hurt the sensitivities of the Muslims. To Hell with their sensitivities! Let us save their lives, and the lives of millions of innocent people.

Millions, if not billions of lives will be lost if we do nothing. Time is running out! "All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing." Do something! Send this message to everyone in your address book and ask them to do the same. Defeat Islam and stop terrorism. This is your world, save it.

The ex-Muslim Movement

www.faithfreedom.org

9 posted on 11/24/2004 2:24:32 PM PST by blinachka
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To: speed_addiction
If the Radical Muslims think that we are going to roll over here like Europe, they are mistaken. We have a little thing called THE SECOND ADMENDMENT that will stop such nonsense.

Like most other Americans, you are not listening carefully. These moderates condemn terrorism, but still plan to work at their utmost limit to change our country into something foreign, alien and evil, using our own laws to accomplish it, neat and legal. Democracy.

islamic thought is simpleminded and uncompromising: the word of the majority must prevail. If there is a higher law, it is the quran and shari'a.

10 posted on 11/24/2004 2:44:18 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Haro_546

What's the difference between a "moderate" Muslim and Bigfoot?

Bigfoot has been spotted!


11 posted on 11/24/2004 2:45:59 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: quidnunc
Just think of how dam_ed ridiculous it is that we have to respect and tolerate some maniacal, bloodthirsty, misogynistic death-cult in our midst because we MIGHT someday find one or two of them who don't believe that we should be slaughtered if we fail to convert to worshiping their stupid-a$$ meteorite in Mecca.

Just what the he!! is going on here? This is a long-term fight to the death, NOT A GAME or a TV episode!
12 posted on 11/24/2004 2:49:56 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: broadsword

LOL ;)


13 posted on 11/24/2004 2:55:04 PM PST by Haro_546 (Christian Zionist)
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Islam Faces a New Era
Civilization magazine (via the Wayback Machine) ^ | 1999 | Munawar A. Anees
Posted on 11/21/2004 11:51:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285400/posts


14 posted on 11/24/2004 4:20:52 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: squirt-gun
I was visiting TEXAS INSTRUMENTS last month....noticed a poster relating to DIVERSITY touting the MOSLEMS.

I guess the DIVERSITY PC group are alive and well in Texas.

Time for a boycot of TI products...........?

15 posted on 11/24/2004 4:48:03 PM PST by spokeshave (Strategery + Schardenfreude = Stratenschardenfreudery)
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