Who's afraid of Viking Kitties when you got a Kitchen Lion!
Posted on 11/22/2004 5:22:17 PM PST by pissant
(CBS) Americans do not believe that humans evolved, and the vast majority says that even if they evolved, God guided the process. Just 13 percent say that God was not involved. But most would not substitute the teaching of creationism for the teaching of evolution in public schools.
Support for evolution is more heavily concentrated among those with more education and among those who attend religious services rarely or not at all.
There are also differences between voters who supported Kerry and those who supported Bush: 47 percent of John Kerry’s voters think God created humans as they are now, compared with 67 percent of Bush voters
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I'm serious. Put down the bottle and come back when you have a coffee cup in your hand.
I'm waiting for a creationist to use the refutation of "poll science" as a claim that we hate democracy.
Oooh now you SERIOUS! My, my my, I guess I'll just HAVE to do what say now! LOL
What loser you are Balrog! You can't even pick a good fight!
You think it's fun watching you make a fool of yourself?
Please please stop! LOL you are just too witty and clever!
What is your point anyways? Trying to prove that you've got nothing better to do than try and start stupid arguments.
I suppose that you're just trying to get people down to your limited mental capacity?! LOL
Honestly Balrog you jumped in just to try and get a couple digs in. Not that you ever have any thing intelligent to say anyways.
Kindest Regards,
Boiler Plate
Bless all the creationists! They do the very best they can.
'Someone who claims that evolution led to Hitler's acts of genocide should not be lecturing others on "logic".'
To be honest, you must admit that the atheistic viewpoint leads one to regard life as nothing but the result of random acts. If you view everyone as having the worth of a computer monitor, then you probably wouldn't hesitate to kill them to advance your own agenda.
Happy Thanksgiving!
Who's afraid of Viking Kitties when you got a Kitchen Lion!
Religious beliefs cause man to do the same. Religion can allow men to feel empowered and justified to do things they'd otherwise feel guilty about. Its doubtful that middle eastern terrorism would be even exist without religion.
Not being a specialist on shubi(doo bee doo), I missed this gem. So God personally revealed the hidden meaning of firmament to our "friend"?
Poll: Creationism Trumps Evolution
Posted by shubi to ZellsBells
On News/Activism 11/23/2004 3:34:11 PM EST · 546 of 932
I see God's intervention all the time. I had a Pauline experience coming back from a Hebrew seminar. Just as God revealed to me the meaning of rakia, 3 crosses appeared on the side of the road. I had driven 85 miles past my exit.
My point on evolution is, the system is so wonderful that it doesn't need intervention to work. Why would an omnipotent, omniscient God make a system that needed maintenance? Also, evolution is a tertiary system. The primary systems cause the secondary and tertiary ones.
And how it seems to relate to the quotation below, in aspects that are important to you and me, and, ostensibly by his comments, should be to him.
"I'm an atheist, and I don't view everyone as having the worth of a computer monitor."
Out of curiosity, on what basis do you establish a better worth for others than on inanimate objects?
Ruh Roh.
Well this will be interesting. I wonder if he'll have another Pauline experience.
"Religious beliefs cause man to do the same."
Somewhat true. Religious beliefs can cause man to do evil, but historically the evil done under the name of religion is dwarfed by that done this century alone by atheism (however, part of that may just have to do with the increase in the number of people on the planet in total).
Yeah, that's how Christ dealt with the oppressors of Israel during the incarnation ... except that the only people he condemned were the religions hypocrites who condemned people who didn't agree with their theology .. called them sons of their father, satan, I believe.
To everyone else he offered forgiveness while they were still dead in their sins. He loves those you are apparently bent on hating (or condemning at least)
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. John 17:3
With your vast knowledge of the original language I believe you'll be able to confirm that the word "know" here has about the same meaning as the word used in Genesis whare it says "Adam knew Eve and she bore him a son
The heartbeat of Christian faith is not "get your theology and head knowledge correct" it is to be known by God. (Matt 7:21-23) and to know Him ... relationship, not a worthless crossing ot the T's and dotting of the I's of a man's theology.
What is God's heart towards the idolatrous creationuts ? Is he out to destroy them or save them
You say they deny God is the author of evolution. Shubi, God is the author of LIFE. ex nihilo .. neither your brain nor mine has a clue how he did it ... to claim otherwise speaks of an ego that is out of control.
Well, I may not have read quite as many books on it as you, but I did go through a stint as an anthro major (ended up with a B.A. in Sociology), and have read quite a bit on it -from Darwin, theorists such as Gould, and derivative sources such as textbooks.
I've certainly read plenty of the arguments that support evolution, the age of the Earth, the age of the universe, etc...from Physics, Geology, Physical Anthropology, Biology, etc.
So, I can't say I'm an expert, but I can certainly hold my own as a broadly educated layperson.
What you said is:
With Evolution, you kiss a frog, add a little "pixie dust" called "time" and it turns into a prince...and that's SCIENCE.
No, actually, acording to Darwinian theory (as it has developed with modern genetics), the mechanism is well-known. It's not "pixie dust"; it's random genetic mutations which, at rare times, increase the individual's chances of survival. Those who get beneficial mutations survive to pass them on to their offspring. Those who do not get such mutations (or who get harmful ones) die.
Personally, I think there are many unanswered questions There are significant, if not profound holes in the theory. I suspect that we will have to revise it quite dramatically, and I even suspect that many of the fundamental assumptions of Darwinism are wrong. I can't offer any speculation as to how they are wrong. I don't know. I do believe that the problems are less than that of traditional creationism.
But the overall mechanism - chance genetic alterations increasing the probability of survival - is within the real of scientific plausability, not mysticism.
To suggest that the problems (I would be happy to discuss them with you) are far too great to advocate Darwinism is perfectly reasonable. To suggest that your argument is a fair summary of Darwinism is false.
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