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West Virginia conservatives forming third party
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | November 15, 2004 | VICKI SMITH -- Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/15/2004 12:13:23 PM PST by Willie Green

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. (AP) -- A third political party forming in West Virginia is only in its infancy but offers "the truly conservative person" a voice and a choice, its organizers said Monday.

The Constitution Party advocates a smaller, less intrusive federal government that operates within the strict framework of the U.S. Constitution and "its foundation in Biblical law."

"I guess we're what you would call the ultraconservatives," said Secretary Brenda Donnellan, a Lewis County resident.

The Constitution Party, which plans to petition for ballot access in the coming year, supports the death penalty and a patient's right to sue doctors and insurers but opposes abortion, gay rights and gambling. It urges abolition of several federal agencies and rejects U.S. participation in international trade, environmental and political organizations, including the United Nations.

The Constitution Party began in 1992 as a coalition of state parties that formed the U.S. Taxpayers Party, then changed its name in 1999. It was on the ballot in 37 states this year and claims to be the nation's fastest-growing third party.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: West Virginia
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1 posted on 11/15/2004 12:13:23 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

They certainly have some great ideas.


2 posted on 11/15/2004 12:16:52 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: Willie Green

Were this in a state like Idaho or Nebraska, I would have no problems. But, people, WHAT are you thinking??? After years of Democrat dominance in West Virginia, the Republicans are just now getting to the point where they can elect some officials. If these folks abandon the Republican candidates, they lose their only hopes of even semi-conservative officeholders. If they want to enact some change within the party, that is quite fine, but don't get in a position where neither the Republican nor Constitution Party candidates can win and the Democrats win by default!


3 posted on 11/15/2004 12:17:12 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Exactly.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 12:18:23 PM PST by kesg
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To: Willie Green
Unfortunately, the Constitution Party is a non-Fundamentalist, anti-Israel "chr*stian reconstructionist" party whose myth that the Founding Fathers (who were primarily enlightenment/Freemason/deist types) were Biblical Judges verges on American Identitarianism. Their candidate this past year gave an interview to Al-Jazeera.

I understand that there are some good Fundamentalist pro-Israel people at the grassroots, however, and the Jewish Task Force actually endorsed their Senatorial candidate in Pennsylvania. But the people who run the party are still old-school anti-Jewish pre-World War II rightwing types.

6 posted on 11/15/2004 12:19:00 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines conservatism.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

This is a very bad idea. Third parties weaken the vote.


7 posted on 11/15/2004 12:19:47 PM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: jasoncann

Amen! Can you imagine what it would have been like had Bill Clinton had lost in 1992? Four more years of President George H.W. Bush which probably would have been followed with President Bob Dole.

Don't get me wrong, I love President George W. Bush and think he's doing a fantastic job! But, the idea of no blemish on our history of 8 years of Bill Clinton . . WOW!

Thanks a lot Ross Perot and your merry band of malcontents!


8 posted on 11/15/2004 12:20:34 PM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Willie Green
I probably agree with 99% of what the Constitution Party stands for.

Still, as long as I live in a battleground state and the D party outnumbers the C party, I'm resigned to voting for the R party.

However, if the R party gets to looking too much more like the D party, the C party can count on both of my (our) votes.

9 posted on 11/15/2004 12:20:45 PM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Willie Green

stupid.


10 posted on 11/15/2004 12:21:51 PM PST by ken21 (against the democrat plantation.)
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To: Willie Green

Divide and conquer? Wouldn't be shocked to learn that George Soros was funding this. Since the election of 1860, there have only been TWO Democrat presidents who received a greater percentage of the popular vote than President Bush did this year. (FDR and LBJ) The Democrats usually lose unless there is a 3rd party candidate to split the conservative vote.


11 posted on 11/15/2004 12:22:37 PM PST by Sooth2222
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To: Willie Green

Okay, I realize that I'm going to get crucified by some for saying this but here goes: This is the worst thing that the conservative movement in America could possibly do!

On November 2nd conservatives made historic gains by helping the Republican party retain and expand their majority. No, the GOP is not a monolithically conservative party, but it is our best chance to see real change in this country - change that will benefit conservatives and the conservative movement. If the GOP fractures because conservatives begin to squabble amongst themselves and defect from the GOP, we can expect a return to the dark days of the 1990's when a plurality of voters elected a liberal administration with the help of Perot supporters. Over the past forty years, the ONLY time that the liberals have been able to elect their candidates was when a third party peeled a significant number of voters away from the GOP. The results have been predictably disasterous.

If you are a conservative and you are unhappy with certain actions on the part of the GOP or the administration, stay within the party and fight for what you believe in! Don't defect to a third party - now is NOT the time!

You may now commence tearing me apart.


12 posted on 11/15/2004 12:23:43 PM PST by Syco
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To: Willie Green
But state GOP Chairman Kris Warner said there is no need for another party. Yeah, I bet he said that while swallowing hard

"The two major parties have served this nation and this state very, very well for the last 200 years," he said. Bet he didn't even blush when he basically said that the two major parties have jointly gotten us into the mess we are in

13 posted on 11/15/2004 12:23:52 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
"But, people, WHAT are you thinking??? After years of Democrat dominance in West Virginia, the Republicans are just now getting to the point where they can elect some officials."

That is exactly what they are thinking, stop the forward momentum.

14 posted on 11/15/2004 12:24:34 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

"If these folks abandon the Republican candidates, they lose their only hopes of even semi-conservative officeholders. If they want to enact some change within the party, that is quite fine, but don't get in a position where neither the Republican nor Constitution Party candidates can win and the Democrats win by default!"

You got my vote. To many people get caught up in a particular narrow group of issues, abandon a party and lessen it's ability to stay in power. I was guilty of this years back when I voted Amercian Party instead of Nixon.
They just will hand the state back to the demos.


15 posted on 11/15/2004 12:25:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Heaven forbid that an American political party place America's interests and priorities ahead of Israel's.


16 posted on 11/15/2004 12:26:55 PM PST by Willie Green
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To: CWOJackson

"But, people, WHAT are you thinking??? "

Not much.

The circular firing squad is beginning.


17 posted on 11/15/2004 12:27:59 PM PST by tkathy (There will be no world peace until all thuggocracies are gone from the earth.)
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To: Willie Green
"Heaven forbid that an American political party place America's interests and priorities ahead of Israel's."

Yes, we've heard the same silly BS from someone else. Oh, yes...from buchanan. The POS who claims that Islamic Extremists DO NOT pose a threat to the United States and was near to tears the other day while singing the his praises for Arafat.

18 posted on 11/15/2004 12:29:40 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They have been pro-Israel in my experience...and you're wrong about the founding fathers.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 12:29:57 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan (BURN IN HELL, MICHAEL MOORE!)
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To: MissAmericanPie

"Bet he didn't even blush when he basically said that the two major parties have jointly gotten us into the mess we are in"



Very few of the problems faced by West Virginians can be blamed on Republicans. The Democrats have pretty much owned the government since coal miners formed their first union.


20 posted on 11/15/2004 12:31:51 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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