I understand that there are some good Fundamentalist pro-Israel people at the grassroots, however, and the Jewish Task Force actually endorsed their Senatorial candidate in Pennsylvania. But the people who run the party are still old-school anti-Jewish pre-World War II rightwing types.
Heaven forbid that an American political party place America's interests and priorities ahead of Israel's.
They have been pro-Israel in my experience...and you're wrong about the founding fathers.
This article may shed some light (or further the debate, as the case may be!), although I think its conclusions about deism are overly simplistic.
Were Our Founding Father's Deists?
Our Godly Heritage Russell Boates
Historians today assert that our Founding Fathers were “deists” and intended America to be a secular nation. What is a “deist”? According to David Barton in his great book Original Intent, “…a ‘deist’ embraces the ‘clockmaker theory’ that there was a God who made the universe and wound it up like a clock; however, it now runs of its own volition; the clockmaker is gone and therefore does not respond to man.”
There were approximately 240 Founding Fathers consisting of the creators and signers of the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, plus heroes of the Revolution, as well as the first Cabinet and Supreme Court Justices. From speeches, letters, volumes of writings, accomplishments, and testimonials from friends, we know that 95% of these men were very devoted Christians. Most of the state Constitutions written after the war by these men, required that all state officials fear God. For example the Massachusetts Constitution, 1780, chapter VI, article I reads, “All persons elected to State office or to the Legislature must make and subscribe the following declaration, viz. ‘I,_______, believe the Christian religion, and have firm persuasion of its truth.’” The Fathers wanted officials who believed God would hold them accountable for their actions. They were hardly deists.
Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson have been labeled “deists”. Jefferson argued that he was a “disciple of Jesus Christ” but denied Christ’s deity. These men don’t seem to have been Christians but they both feared God. For example in a speech to Congress Franklin said, “… God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.’ I firmly believe this; and I also believe that without His concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel …I therefore (request) – that henceforth prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven, and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning…”.
Before I quote one of Jefferson’s statements that is carved on the Jefferson Memorial let me ask you, “Do you think that God created us and then moved on, not caring what we do in America? Are you a deist?” Before you answer, consider: if you think that God ignored our government removing the Bible and prayer from our schools and replacing them with immoral “sex education” and condom distribution, you are a deist; if you think God ignored America officially allowing the premeditated murder of over 40,000,000 pre-born babies since 1973, you are a deist (God decides when life begins not our government!); if you think God is ignoring America’s rapid descent into the cesspool of immoral perversion, you are a deist and God owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology. OK, answer the question.
Hear Jefferson’s words, “God who gave us life gave us liberty, and can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.” No deist here!
Our Founding Fathers were not deists, but America acts like a deist nation today! If we believed God will judge America for her immoral atrocities, we would “tremble for our county!” — What are you doing?
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As are most of their defenders.
Can you show us how they are both anti-Jew and anti-Israel?
But the people who run the party are still old-school anti-Jewish pre-World War II rightwing types.
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That is down right out spooky.
Serious question. Are they truly anti Jewish or do they just appear that way because of their isolationist ideas?
Your #6.....excellant point...folks with morals and ethics will have nothing to do with that bunch. I congratulate you for using the pre WWll point. Nuff said!
What are you talking about? The Dems have been making anti-Israel statements for years and the Jews voted 85% for Kerry. Explain that.