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Supreme Court won't hear cockfighting case
Associated Press ^ | 11-15-04 | GINA HOLLAND

Posted on 11/15/2004 11:21:00 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

WASHINGTON - No cockfighting in Oklahoma, the Supreme Court says.

The justices turned down an appeal Monday from cockfighting supporters, who have lost at the ballot box and in courts.

Oklahoma voters in 2002 approved a ban on the blood sport, in which knives or cutting barbs are attached to roosters, which usually fight to the death.

The Oklahoma Supreme Court upheld voters' decision earlier this year, prompting the appeal to the Supreme Court. Justices rejected it without comment.

Attorney Larry Oliver, in filings at the court, said that the law was so vague that people could be arrested for watching blue jays fight in their back yard.

"All birds fight by nature," he wrote. "This Oklahoma statute was drafted by radical animal rights people who exacted a constitutional overkill in their pursuit to ban everything associated with cockfighting."

When voters approved the anti-cockfighting law, Oklahoma was one of three states that permitted the sport. Louisiana and New Mexico still allow it.

Under the Oklahoma law, participants in cockfights and raising birds for fighting could face up to 10 years in jail and $25,000 fines. Spectators can be charged with misdemeanors.

Sherry Todd, an assistant attorney general in Oklahoma, told justices: "The right to conduct cockfights is not a fundamental right. In fact, the federal government and 48 states have enacted some form of law prohibiting cockfighting."

Todd also said that the law "does not criminalize the enjoyment and/or observation of the natural activities of birds in their natural habitat."

The case is Tally v. Oklahoma, 04-329.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: animalrights; cockfighting

1 posted on 11/15/2004 11:21:00 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No crossing swords, you hear?


2 posted on 11/15/2004 11:21:54 AM PST by johniegrad ('If only we smelled each other's a**, there wouldn't be any war.')
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I'm just waiting for somebody involved in this to say, "They can have my cock when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!"


3 posted on 11/15/2004 11:23:11 AM PST by RichInOC (When cocks are outlawed, only outlaws will have cocks.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

now there's a title that can be easily misunderstood.

en garde!


4 posted on 11/15/2004 11:24:16 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: RichInOC

Remember the first rule of 'fight club'...


5 posted on 11/15/2004 11:24:24 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You mean the law is finally going to have to be followed here in Oklahoma -- should say SE Oklahoma? It passed by a large margin but the cockfighting interests have had it tied up in Court. Glad those Dems lost!


6 posted on 11/15/2004 11:26:34 AM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Thanks Oklahomans for giving Pres Bush the win in all our counties!)
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To: YouPosting2Me

The first rule of Cockfight Club:

You do not talk about your cock.

The second rule of Cockfight Club:

YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT YOUR COCK.


7 posted on 11/15/2004 11:27:04 AM PST by RichInOC (Cocks are for sporting purposes only. There is no such thing as an assault cock.)
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To: YouPosting2Me

And that would be?


8 posted on 11/15/2004 11:27:47 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Relatives in southern WV have a neighbor with about 100 roosters. When I inquired why so many roosters, I was informed that their neighbor raises them for cockfighting. However, their neighbor must take these roosters to Kentucky for the fights.


10 posted on 11/15/2004 11:29:49 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Emma Lee Littella says:

What two people do in the privacy of their own bedroom...what's that Chevy...ooohhh...THAT kind of cockfighting...never mind!

11 posted on 11/15/2004 11:30:36 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; 2witty; A Jovial Cad; AmerRepb; amigatec; Amityschild; Angry_White_Man_Syndrome; ..
Oklahoma Ping!

If you want on
or off this list
Freepmail me.
12 posted on 11/15/2004 11:32:50 AM PST by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

GAY MARRIAGE PING.

er, I mean... oops


13 posted on 11/15/2004 11:33:16 AM PST by Gerasimov (John Kerry just got his SECOND dishonorable discharge.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...in which knives or cutting barbs are attached to the ...

Oh wait, they're talking about birds, right?

14 posted on 11/15/2004 11:33:55 AM PST by AreaMan
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To: AreaMan

Justice denied for Little Jerry Seinfeld.


15 posted on 11/15/2004 11:34:53 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I bet "Little Jerry Seinfeld" is happy to hear this!


16 posted on 11/15/2004 11:35:54 AM PST by safeasthebanks ("...that looks like a dog with a glove on its head!")
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To: PhiKapMom

We're not even in SE Oklahoma. Just a bit south of Norman, on 120th Street there are at least three operations we know of--drive by on a weekend night, and you'll see dozens of cars and pickups parked at a little farm in one place, in another you see the plastic barrels that pass for bird houses, etc. etc.


17 posted on 11/15/2004 11:36:19 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: RichInOC; TheBigB

Good stuff on this thread B!  Check out RichInOC's contribution on post 7!

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

18 posted on 11/15/2004 11:36:47 AM PST by South Hawthorne (John Ashcroft for Supreme Court!)
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To: RichInOC

Third rule of Cockfight Club, a cock goes limp, crows "Stop!", taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule, only two cocks to a fight. Fifth rule, one fight at a time, fellas. Sixth rule, no shirt, no shoes. (On the cocks, that is.) Seventh rule, fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule, if this is your cock's first night at Cockfight Club, your cock has to fight.


19 posted on 11/15/2004 11:40:48 AM PST by RichInOC (...delightfully tacky, yet unrefined.)
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To: RichInOC

It's always been my policy, to never fight with my cock.


20 posted on 11/15/2004 11:41:57 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Remember the PETA Principle))))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hey, I thought the rule was "What happens in the judges'chambers, STAYS in the judges' chambers!!!"


21 posted on 11/15/2004 11:44:04 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It's not the size of the cock in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the cock.


22 posted on 11/15/2004 11:44:32 AM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: aomagrat

We need a good USC reference on a cockfighting thread...

}:-)4


23 posted on 11/15/2004 11:44:50 AM PST by Moose4 (I'm not white trash. I'm Caucasian recyclables.)
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To: wideawake

The supreme court did what they should do in most cases. Not hear the freaking case because it's a state issue.


24 posted on 11/15/2004 11:45:50 AM PST by Dozer3
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To: wideawake

In any case, if you have to fight, it's less painful to use your fists.


25 posted on 11/15/2004 11:50:11 AM PST by Free ThinkerNY ((((Remember the PETA Principle))))
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To: Moose4

What do Trojans have to do with cockfighting?


26 posted on 11/15/2004 11:52:13 AM PST by RichInOC (...oops, did I say that out loud?)
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To: Moose4

We need a good USC reference on a cockfighting thread...


..."You can't beat our Cocks!"


27 posted on 11/15/2004 11:53:00 AM PST by Oystir
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To: Moose4

...yeah, yeah, I know, you're talking South Carolina, but humor me...


28 posted on 11/15/2004 11:53:48 AM PST by RichInOC (Why doesn't Le Coq Sportif sponsor those fights?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I did but it won.


29 posted on 11/15/2004 11:56:22 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: johniegrad

Well.......my cock has never been beaten!


30 posted on 11/15/2004 11:56:51 AM PST by jamndad5
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Let the cocks decide if they want to fight or not!!!!


31 posted on 11/15/2004 11:57:58 AM PST by Shellback Chuck (Hey John, whose your daddy?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

THUNDERDOME: Two cocks enter, one cock leaves.


32 posted on 11/15/2004 11:58:07 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: wideawake

If you can't run with the big cocks, stay on the porch.


33 posted on 11/15/2004 12:00:54 PM PST by Shellback Chuck (Hey John, whose your daddy?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What do they call it when female chickens fight?


34 posted on 11/15/2004 12:01:56 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: 2Jedismom

BTTT!!!!!!!


35 posted on 11/15/2004 12:03:59 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: JustAnotherOkie

WOW!!!!!
Is this FReerepublic?


36 posted on 11/15/2004 12:05:12 PM PST by jamndad5
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To: YouPosting2Me

Rule #1 No Viagra!!!!


37 posted on 11/15/2004 12:06:00 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"All birds fight by nature,"

Chickens have a right to fight.

My grandfather used to raise game roosters. One day when he was away from home a wind storm blew the roof off of ten of his coops. He returned to eight dead cocks and the other two were injured beyond recovery. Must have been a hell of a fight.

38 posted on 11/15/2004 12:07:12 PM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: RichInOC; Moose4

I think Moose4 meant Univ. of South Carolina not Southern Cali. Although Trojans are fitting, after all you would want to protect your cock when fighting.


39 posted on 11/15/2004 12:07:33 PM PST by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Maybe so, but that would be boring. Who'd pay to watch that?


40 posted on 11/15/2004 12:08:36 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Moose4

GO COCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

41 posted on 11/15/2004 3:01:53 PM PST by aomagrat (Where weapons are not allowed, it is best to carry weapons.)
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To: BykrBayb

What with all the gays moving to Canada, I bet cockfighting replaces hockey as the national sport!


42 posted on 11/15/2004 4:16:16 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...And in this corner....McGreevy.....


43 posted on 11/15/2004 8:11:57 PM PST by festus (Imperialism Shall Rise Again)
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