Why the Explosives Story is a Dud for the Dems (an Imaginary Conversation)

self | 10/29/04 | LS

[LS]

I'm convinced that the "missing explosives" story not only is a dud for Dems, but that it backfires on many levels. It is simply too complicated for John and Joan Q. Public to follow. Imagine the following conversation:

Dem shill: "Bush lost the weapons in Iraq."

Voter: "There were weapons in Iraq?"

Shill: "Yeah, and Bush didn't guard them."

Voter: "You mean WMDs?"

Shill: "No, no. Not WMDs. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Explosives."

Voter: "I thought WMDs were explosives, among other things."

Shill: "They are but these aren't. I mean, these are not WMDs. These were weapons. Explosives."

Voter: "In Iraq?"

Shill (proudly): "Yeah."

Voter: "Before the war?"

Shill (condident): "Yeah. And now they're gone."

Voter: "Isn't that what we were trying to do? Get rid of the weapons?"

Shill (exasperated): "No, not like that."

Voter (confused): "So we didn't want to get rid of WMDs?"

Shill (freaking, shouting: "THESE WERE NOT WMDs. They were weapons!!"

Voter (hesitant): "In Iraq."

Shill: "Yes, in Iraq."

Voter (tiptoeing): "Before the war."

Shill (gaining confidence again): "Yes."

Voter: "Weapons . . . like Weapons of Mass Destruction?"

Shill reaching for two tabs of Ecstasy.

[Pete]

I also think we can point out that if Kerry had his way, Saddam Hussein would be in control of the 380 tons along with the other 400,000 tons of weapons.

That's probably why John Kerry came out this morning and said that if he had been President, Saddam might not be in power today.

Gee. Thanks, John.

[RedRepublic]

Ha...Ha...Ha...

Good job.

[Cousin Eddie]

Wishful thinking.

[theDentist]

if I may....

Voter: "You mean WMDs?"

Shill: "No, no. Not WMDs. There were no WMDs in Iraq. Explosives."

Voter: "I thought WMDs were explosives, among other things."

Shill: "They are but these aren't. I mean, these are not WMDs. These were weapons. Explosives."

Voter: "Are these the ones the (IAEA) said were missing?"

Shill: "Yes, exactly."

Voter: "And these explosives are used with atomic energy?"

Shill: "Right"

Voter: "Isn't atomic energy related to WMD?"

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

I'm convinced that the "missing explosives" story not only is a dud for Dems, but that it backfires on many levels. It is simply too complicated for John and Joan Q. Public to follow.

This isn't and never was the October Surprise. This was just last week. The FBI criminal probe of Haliburton and Bush/Cheney, shades of Walsh/Weinberger, launched no doubt by Dem hacks at the Bureau, will be the wall-to-wall talking point of all the Sunday shows and MSM through Tuesday. That is, unless there is a two-punch, as I suspect, that is reserved for late Sunday that the explosives was only feint and diversion to cover and maintain secrecy for.

[LS]

Sorry, Halliburton ain't gonna fly. This has ZERO impact with Bush's base.

For any "October Surprise" to have any effect, it must suppress Bush's base.

[Ikemeister]

Don't give the voters too much credit in seeing through these things. Out biggest problem is the Bush campaign's lethargy in dealing with these things, and its inability to go on offense. Kerry and the MSM have had us playing defense for weeks now.

[50 Cal]

Funny I heard that exact conversation last night on Foxnews.

[iopscusa]

The Demo-liars can't even keep their stories straight much less defend them, if this is their Oct surprize, the blowback on them is growing big time...
Freekin' unbelievable...

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

For any "October Surprise" to have any effect, it must suppress Bush's base.

Kerry base is 48% on Abortion, Gays and Welfare. A terror nuke won't move them. They are more than the 46% in 2000 and will be around 50% in 2008 unless the Democrat-media-education complex is broken up. They know everything Kerry says is to fool the opposition and are not paying attention. They know what they want. They oppose the WOT mainly as a diversion of welfare resources.

The Bush base is 40%, tuned in first or second-hand to talk radio and the right-wing blogs.

The 12% in the middle is scared s-less of moral values and are open to voting Demo and the play is that on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November some 2% from them will vote the last thing they hear.

(Non-voters are over 60-40 Demo and fraud is 80-20 D, so it is really even worse.)

[Exeter]

IOW, the French Poodle is saying that 380 tons of weapons of MINOR destruction were removed.

I'm curious, has Kerry told us yet how many tons of weapons of MINOR Destruction there are in 1 ton of weapons of MASS Destruction?

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

There is no blowback possible on Kerry. His 48% base doesn't care about any of this. That's why Kerry can say absolutely anything trying to fool the middle/un/misinformed and just move on to the next fraud trying to reach 50% + 1.

[rocklobster11]

It's a dud because Pentagon is about to have a briefing with the 3ID soldier who destroyed 200 tons of explosives on April 13, 2003:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1261444/posts

[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

It'll stick with 0.1% of Kerry's non-base, just like several other ploys. But they've already moved on to the Haliburton/Bush/Cheney "criminal" probe while you're still fighting the last battle.

[Coffee_drinker]

Voter: "Isn't atomic energy related to WMD?"

Yes this is the line of thinking most people would lead to, and in fact I believe it is the right, logical path to follow.

If they did remove the explosives, not the normal explosives, the more powerful ones, but not the real powerful ones like WMD's, but the ones just below the WMD's but could be used with WMD's then maybe they removed the WMD's at the same time as the more powerful explosives but left the normal explosives behind......

yes you are right, the Dems have a hard time following anything that is slightly complicated so it will just confuse some of them and might even sway some over to Bush. :)

CD

[OESY]

Voter: "And these explosives are used with atomic energy?"

Shill: "Right"

Voter: "Isn't atomic energy related to WMD?"

Shill: "Check"

Voter: "And not just related to atomic energy, but used as nuclear triggers?"

Shill: "Oh oh. Checkmate. You win."