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Which one has proven to be the most reliable poll?
flagthefly

Posted on 10/26/2004 12:21:50 PM PDT by flagthefly

Friends - as someone who likes to dig deeper into the US elections (I mean the technicalities, my interest always was great, and I am European) I would like to ask the following: if one looks into the poll predictions concerning the election of next week, one at first is confronted with a bewildering array of names and predictions. The latter may vary quite a lot, in that one poll gives Dubya an advantage of 4 procent points (raise a toast!), and then another seems to predict something of a draw, a photo finish. Then there is the meta-poll math, which gives the combined result of many single polls. So my question for the day: which poll, or poll system has over a long period of time proven to be the most reliable? And what kind of result does that particular measuring method predict for next week? Can I still raise that toast in advance? Cheers, flaggie!


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: pastrecord; polls; prediction; reliability; stats
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1 posted on 10/26/2004 12:21:53 PM PDT by flagthefly
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To: flagthefly

The one next Tuesday is the most accurate.


2 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:03 PM PDT by jpf
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To: flagthefly

The most reliable poll is taken on November 2nd.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:05 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: flagthefly

There's no one "golden" poll. There are a few sure stinkers, like Newsweek, or the polls that are openly partisan like Democracy Corps. All we can do is average together the rest of the polls to get a general sense of things.


4 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:23 PM PDT by Phocion
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To: flagthefly

Which one has proven to be the most reliable poll?

Until the last election it was the one on the first Tuesday in November.....


5 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:30 PM PDT by Red Badger (Ask not for whom the Freeper freeps, they freep for thee........)
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To: Leapfrog

Beat ya to it.


6 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:35 PM PDT by jpf
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To: flagthefly

The poll that is taken on Nov. 2 is the most reliable.


7 posted on 10/26/2004 12:24:47 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: flagthefly
in 2000, mason dixon was closest to the actual outcome, and in 2002, they had most of the house and senate races right, also.
8 posted on 10/26/2004 12:25:04 PM PDT by smonk
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To: jpf

Hahaa!

Two seconds!


9 posted on 10/26/2004 12:25:10 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: flagthefly

www.tradesports.com


10 posted on 10/26/2004 12:27:06 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: jpf
The one next Tuesday is the most accurate.

Unless you have 'Rats tallying the votes.

11 posted on 10/26/2004 12:27:12 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Vote Kerry: The Space Needle is an eyesore anyway.)
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To: Leapfrog

Which gave me 1.9 seconds to spare.

I'll milk it more next time. :)


12 posted on 10/26/2004 12:27:14 PM PDT by jpf
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To: Leapfrog
The most reliable poll is taken on November 2nd.

Only Republicans believe that the actual vote is the most reliable. Dems like to read tea leaves to discern how all the disenfranchised (by Republicans) would have voted. The MSM also gives great credence to the Dem method.

13 posted on 10/26/2004 12:29:11 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

I said MOST accurate, not completely accurate.

I'm hopeful we'll nudge this thing just out of the reach of the cheaters...ah, I mean Democrats.


14 posted on 10/26/2004 12:29:31 PM PDT by jpf
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To: jpf

In the last presidential election the most accurate was the Harris poll followed by Zogby poll which was one tenth of one percent off.


15 posted on 10/26/2004 12:29:41 PM PDT by secret 4 agent
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To: flagthefly

See the link in my tagline.


16 posted on 10/26/2004 12:29:50 PM PDT by Nataku X (Get Informed of the Polls: http://polipundit.com/index.php?p=4176)
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To: secret 4 agent

I believe TIPP was pretty close as well.

You know if Bush is ahead in EVERY poll by this Sunday (God please, I'll even be nice to my father-in-law) then I'd say he's ahead.


17 posted on 10/26/2004 12:32:14 PM PDT by jpf
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To: flagthefly

Well the ruling axiom in American electoral politics is this- "The guy with the most votes wins- except sometimes"


18 posted on 10/26/2004 12:32:20 PM PDT by Armigerous
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To: flagthefly

http://Polipundit.com has a good discussion. That site likes Gallup, Princeton, and Harris, and a few others. It dislikes several (including Zogby for not following the Polling Association guidelines and Rasmussen for hiding his methods.)

It's important that pollsters openly publish their methodology. At least Gallup and Zogby do so. Rasmussen is secretive.


19 posted on 10/26/2004 12:33:09 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: flagthefly
To tell you the truth I don't trust any of them for one reason. That reason is the fact that there are a lot of people out there who are like myself.

I'm one of those not so rare people who don't take part in the so called reliable polls. I'm a sleeper who only appears on election day.
20 posted on 10/26/2004 12:34:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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