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Dan Rather - Michael Moore, Same Source? Too good to be true
Newsmax.com ^ | 10/11/04 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 10/11/2004 8:31:37 AM PDT by lward99

Alan Skorski is a hero, cant wait to read his Franken book...This is too good to be true.

Monday, Oct. 11, 2004 9:57 a.m. EDT Dan Rather: CBS's Michael Moore

Could it be that "CBS Evening News" anchorman Dan Rather has lower journalistic standards than even Michael Moore, whose conspiracy film "Fahrenheit 9/11" may be a model piece of political propaganda, but doesn't come close to qualifying as "journalism"?

Last week the web site Ratherbiased.com quote Moore saying he rejected the same forged military records Rather used in his disastrous Sept. 8 broadcast to trash President Bush.

"Back when I was making Fahrenheit, I was offered the same documents that were given to CBS but I didn't use them because we couldn't verify them," Moore said following a speech at the University of Central Arkansas. The radical filmmaker said he also rejected other scoops that sounded "too good to be true," like the story from a woman who claimed she had dinner with Bush and the family of Osama bin Laden.

According to Alan Skorski, a former congressional candidate who's writing a book about Al Franken, Rather and Moore have something in common - a London-based reporter named Greg Palast.

In fact, Palast has claimed credit for reports broken by both Moore and Rather over the years.

In a recent screed he titled, "The Lynching of Dan Rather," Palast wrote, "Dan is in hot water for a report my own investigative team put in Britain's Guardian papers and on BBC TV years ago" - referring to the story that Bush got favorable treatment in the National Guard.

On the eve of the 2000 election, Palast interviewed Bill Burkett, the former National Guard officer who would later pass bogus Guard records to Rather's news team. Burkett talked about Bush's records being scrubbed, but at the time had no documents to back the claim up.

The expatriate journalist says he's also been feeding movie-maker Moore info on Bush for years. This past May Palast wrote:

"In fact, our joke in the London newsroom is that if we can't get our story on to American airwaves, we can just slip it to the fat guy in the chicken suit. Moore could sneak it past the censors as 'entertainment.'"

Palast says Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" is a direct rip-off of his material, claiming in the same report:

"I know, because, with my investigative team at BBC television and The Guardian of Britain, I wrote and filmed the original reports on which Moore's new documentary are based."

Could it be that Rather and Moore actually share the same sources? Not exactly. At least Moore deserves credit for not getting conned by Bill Burkett's phony documents.

Maybe when Rather retires, CBS should replace him with the more discerning "fat guy in the chicken suit."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alanskorski; danrather; danscam; gregpalast; lurch; michaelmoore; moore; napalminthemorning; newsmax; rather; rathergate; wot
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1 posted on 10/11/2004 8:31:38 AM PDT by lward99
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To: lward99

There should a giant red flag that goes up when MOORE rejects somethings. Seriously.


2 posted on 10/11/2004 8:38:52 AM PDT by Bad Sheep (Saving the world, one idiot at a time.)
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To: lward99

WHERE ARE THE FEC AND CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS ON THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES FROM KERRY AND THE DNC?

Bigger than Watergate HAH! This is another Sandy Burglar activity. Message to the pubbies in power: Get a spine and a clue.


3 posted on 10/11/2004 8:41:17 AM PDT by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: Bad Sheep

Verify them? Did he say "verify them"?

Since when did Moore limit himself to the truth. He did not verify 80% of the stuff in his film because THEY ARE LIES!!!!


4 posted on 10/11/2004 8:43:59 AM PDT by ClancyJ (Vote for President Bush - For our grandchildren. Democrats are not to be trusted with our country)
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To: Bad Sheep

Yes but who offered the memo to Moore..anyone ever ask? No.


5 posted on 10/11/2004 8:46:15 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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I think another lie by Moore.


6 posted on 10/11/2004 8:46:55 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: lward99
Could it be that Rather and Moore actually share the same sources? Not exactly. At least Moore deserves credit for not getting conned by Bill Burkett's phony documents.

still doesn't give any legitimacy to MM document of lies

7 posted on 10/11/2004 8:47:37 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: lward99

I believe it was posted here on FR that Mary Mapes was also one of the sources for some of MMoore's trash.


8 posted on 10/11/2004 8:50:59 AM PDT by oldngray
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To: lward99

I Don't know where to begin to tell you on how much i DISLIKE these two LIBERALS!


9 posted on 10/11/2004 8:54:31 AM PDT by Proud Republican 99
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To: lward99

Fat guy in a chicken suit. Love it. The day of divine derision has finally arrived. Now what do we call Rather?


10 posted on 10/11/2004 9:22:28 AM PDT by Eastbound ("Neither a Scrooge nor a Patsy be.")
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To: lward99

Greg Palast spends all of his time writing lies about GW and pushing the Gay Agenda.

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=Greg%20Palast%20Gay


11 posted on 10/11/2004 9:26:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will the ABCNNBC BS lunatic libs stop Rathering to Americans? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: lward99

Why are the filmed rantings and delusions of the bird brained Michael Moo-re, still referred to as a documentry? That is as demeaning to genuine documentrys as is equating John Kerry and his Punklettes Hearts, to Recipients of the Genuine earned with blood, Purple Hearts.


12 posted on 10/11/2004 9:30:21 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All US wars=one million dead-Democrat's war on the unborn=44 million dead and no exit strategy.)
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To: lward99; All

Shameless Plug! Get a copy of this real documentary! I watched it this weekend, it was SWEET!!!

http://www.fahrenhype911.com


13 posted on 10/11/2004 9:45:54 AM PDT by LayoutGuru2 (Triskaidekaphobia ? Never heard of it !)
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To: Eastbound

Old blathering guy in a buzzard suit?


14 posted on 10/11/2004 9:49:23 AM PDT by luvie (WE will not waver;WE will not tire;WE will not falter!)
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To: Eastbound
Fat guy in a chicken suit. Love it. The day of divine derision has finally arrived. Now what do we call Rather?

Uh... [thinking] ...something about biting the heads off of chickens? Rather's getting close to being ready for the county fair freak cage. I stopped watching him years ago (during the "courage" phase) not so much because of his bias, but because he was creeping me out!

15 posted on 10/11/2004 9:57:40 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Alouette; JohnHuang2; SJackson; yonif; ValerieUSA; blam; FairOpinion; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ping!
16 posted on 10/11/2004 10:00:09 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I think another lie by Moore.

I would bet my life savings that this is a lie. Moore is a serial liar who would never reject anything--no matter how flimsy or patently impeachable--to drive his agenda. This is self-serving bullsh*t to make Moore seem to be more responsible than he is.

That said, Dick Thornburgh will probably demand Moore disclose who proferred these documents. Moore knows he can stonewall this to "protect his sources" because the CBS whitewash investigation lacks subpoena power. This will give him even more publicity, which he craves.

17 posted on 10/11/2004 10:03:22 AM PDT by Zebra
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To: fight_truth_decay

I have read somewhere that I BELIEVE it was AP and the Washington Post ALSO had copies of the documents and they QUESTIONED their validity.


18 posted on 10/11/2004 10:37:07 AM PDT by TheEnigma47 (kerry will NEVER deserve forgiveness for his treachery to America's Military)
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To: lward99

lets not forget Dan raTHer was seen in a Hot Springs restaurant with Bill Clinton just days before his Labor Day surgery...

And that's just about the time RaTHer got his memos.


19 posted on 10/11/2004 11:00:00 AM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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To: LayoutGuru2
Shameless Plug! Get a copy of this real documentary! I watched it this weekend, it was SWEET!!!

I second that plug! I watched it last night. I wish *everyone* in the country could see this documentary.

20 posted on 10/11/2004 11:54:00 AM PDT by PosterQue (How you vote tells people who you really are deep inside. - Zell Miller)
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