VP Cheney leaves Edwards with name "Sen. Gone"

VP Candidates Debate -- AM Radio Broadcast of debate

[topher]

At one part of the debate, VP Dick Cheney referred to the home town newspaper of Senator Edwards as being referred to as "Senator Gone" -- because he has missed so many Committee meetings and votes.

I wonder if this reference might "stick" to both Senator Kerry and Senator Edwards, and that soon they may be referred to as "Goners".

Certainly, if this should "stick", it would be very bad news for the "Kerry/Edwards" camp. By the sound of the debate, Senator Edwards was desparate -- swinging after the bell and being "punch drunk" in this debate. VP Dick Cheney seemed to be very rational and cool.

Maybe Freepers can make "Senator Gone" stick to the Kerry/Edwards ticket because of the number of votes missed recently...

[topher]

Of course, maybe Senator Kerry might be referred to as "Senator Flake" because of the number of "Flaky" positions he has taken.

His flip-flopping on issues makes his judgement and ability as president "flaky".

[marineguy]

one thing is for sure-Edwards has finally met Dick Cheney.

[JPJones]

Senator Gone how can you stand up to Al-qaeda if you can't stand up to Howard Dean?

[Reborn]

GOOD GRIEF!!!! The VP was Great tonight! I was totally AMAZED by the Senator GONE info. Damn, if the Senator, ELECTED BY THE PEOPLE, doesn't give a crap about the position he holds ENOUGH to SHOW UP, then what is he gonna do as the VP or even WORSE, as President? YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kingattax]

Brit Hume on Fox saying.."edwards held his own"....Cmon

Brit.....you cant be serious...Cheney kicked JohnBoys ass .

[Wings-n-Wind]

Paging Registered media.... a bumper sticker proposal....

Kerry/Edwards: Be All You Can Be....
BE GONE!!

[Revolting cat!]

[agincourt1415]

Senator GONE and Senator Vote Against the 87 Billion,Great SOUND BITE for the next few weeks!

[Sonar5]

senator Gone was a great line...

As was the quote about edwards and kerry not being there to vote for the tax cuts.

[MikeD]

The only reason Edwards ran for President in the first place is because he knew he'd never get re-elected at home. He is very unpopular back in NC...

[LegalEagle61]

I belong to http://www.gopteamleader.com, I just got an email from the Bush campaign to have everyone send letters to their newspapers and radio stations about the draft rumor and how it was the democrats that proposed the bill. I just sent some, it is very easy, they have all the email addresses online and they send it for you. If you haven't joined, do so if you'd like to help out. The following is a cut and paste of the email that was sent to me in case you need some info for the email. My state is a Bush state so I sent to Illinois who is mostly for Kerry. I sent mine to the editorials. BTW Cheney did great and made Edwards look wet behind the ears, even though loudmouth Lockhart is spinning that Edwards won!

Today the House will vote on a Democratic bill to reinstate the draft. President Bush and Republicans oppose a draft and seek defeat of this bill. Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards wrongly claim it is Republicans who support this, yet it is John Kerry who said he may be open to a draft. Below is more information about this bill, who sponsored it, what Sen. Kerry and Sen. Edwards are saying as well as the truth about President Bush's position regarding it. We need you to call talk radio shows and write letters to the editor. Let people know that it is not Republicans who support this bill, it is the Democrats.

I Need Your Help Telling the Media!

Kerry and Edwards claim it's Republicans who want a Draft, but it's Democrats who are proposing it in Congress. The Administration has been clear: President Bush opposes a draft. To call talk radio shows and write letters to the editor click here.

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Democrats Push Draft in Congress
President Bush Opposes Draft And Republicans Seek Certain Defeat Of Bill

Just Who is Proposing a Draft?

Democrat Congressman Charles Rangel (D-NY) Introduced The "Universal National Service Act Of 2003" To Reinstate Military Draft. "A BILL To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." (H.R. 163, Introduced 1/7/03 By Rep. Charles Rangel)

Today, House Of Representatives Will Vote On Rangel's Proposal, Which House Armed Services Chairman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) Vows Will Receive "Very Little Congressional Support." "Later today, the House of Representatives will debate and vote on H.R. 163, the Universal National Service Act - commonly known as the Reinstate the Draft Bill. There is very little Congressional support for reinstating the draft." (House Armed Services Committee, "House To Vote On And Reject Military Draft Bill," Press Release, 10/5/04)
Democrat Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC) Has Introduced Identical Military Draft Legislation. "A BILL To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." (S. 89, Introduced 1/7/03 By Sen. Ernest Hollings)

Kerry and Edwards Claim It's Republicans Who Want Draft, But Kerry Is Open to Draft

Kerry Raised Possibility Draft Is Returning Under Bush. "Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, citing the war in Iraq and other trouble spots in the world, raised the possibility Wednesday that a military draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect President Bush. ... Answering a question about the draft that had been posed at a forum with voters, Kerry said: 'If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you.'" (Mary Dalrymple, "Kerry Raises Possibility That Military Draft Could Return If Bush Is Re-Elected," The Associated Press, 9/22/04)

Edwards Hinted Draft Would Return Under President Bush. "Edwards drew his biggest applause from the audience, which was heavy on union members and laid-off workers, when he responded to a question from a woman who said that her 23-year-old son recently graduated from college, and that she is worried about a draft being instituted for the war in Iraq. 'There will be no draft when John Kerry is president,' Edwards said, to applause and a standing ovation." (Jim VandeHei, "Kerry Accuses Bush Of Dishonesty On Iraq," The Washington Post, 9/16/04)

Yet Kerry Told Reporter That If Large Mobilization Is Needed, Draft Is "Only Fair Way To Do It." REPORTER: "Senator, some in your party have called for reinstating the draft. Do you think that is a good idea?" KERRY: "Not at this moment. I don't. If we had a need for a general mobilization at some time in the future, then I think that's the only fair way to do it." (WLVI's "Keller At Large," Interview Taped 12/2/03, Aired 9/26/04)

Administration Has Been Clear: President Bush Opposes Draft

Secretary Rumsfeld Called Allegations "Absolute Nonsense." "Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld heatedly denied yesterday that the military plans to bring back the draft and boost reserves and National Guard callups after the November election. 'That is absolute nonsense,' Rumsfeld told the Senate Armed Services Committee. 'It's absolutely false that anyone in this administration is considering reinstituting the draft.'" (Richard Sisk, "No Draft, No Extra Troops - Rummy," [New York] Daily News, 9/24/04)

Vice President Cheney Said Rumors Were "Hogwash." "And the notion that somebody's peddling out there that there is a secret plan to reinstitute the draft, hogwash, not true." (NBC's "Nightly News," 9/29/04)

President Bush: "We Don't Need The Draft." "No, we're not going - we don't need the draft. Look, the all-volunteer Army is working. ... I know Senator McCain and I agree on this issue for certain, the all-volunteer Army works." (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Okaloosa-Walton College, Niceville, FL, 8/10/04)

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[burwellstark]

I am from Raleigh, and grew up around the corner from Edwards's house. Not many people think all that fondly of him here, except those who are blinded by the attention he is drawing to this area.

[danamco]

Brit Hume on Fox saying.."edwards held his own"....Cmon

Brit.....you cant be serious...Cheney kicked JohnBoys ass .

What's anger me is the selection of the moderators, and that James Baker? has agreed to first Jim Lehrer (PBS) then Gwenn Eyfel from the same lib network! Later to come Charles Gibson (ABC) and Bob Scheiffert cBS)!! All are from the left wing networks!!!
A person or two like Brit Hume, from FOX should have been chosen to balanced out to make it fair. What in the world are the W. campaign people thinking about???

[Skip Ripley]

Well, his rear certainly met the VP's foot on a number of occasions tonight...

[Intolerant in NJ]

"First time I ever met the senator was when we came on stage tonight" - right up there with "I knew John Kennedy, senator, and you're no John Kennedy"........

[Republican Wildcat]

Not a one-liner, but I think Cheney really hit it home when he called out Edwards for not wanting to recognize the Iraqis fighting along side U.S. troops in Iraq. Edwards was obviously flustered on that one and sputtered.

[Intolerant in NJ]

...Cheney really hit it home when he called out Edwards for not wanting to recognize the Iraqis fighting along side U.S. troops in Iraq...nailed Edwards good on that one - wish he had also mentioned today's statement by the president of Poland who criticized Kerry for minimizing his country's contributions to the war......

[An American!]

My favorite line:
Your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you Senator Gone. You've got one of the worst attendance records in the United States Senate.

Now, in my capacity as vice president, I am the president of Senate, the presiding officer. I'm up in the Senate most Tuesdays when they're in session.

The first time I ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight.

[crushelits]

SENATOR GONE!