Posted on 09/02/2004 8:56:57 PM PDT by rdl6989
NEW YORK — In what has been described as a routine process, the Pentagon's inspector general's office on Thursday referred to the secretary of the Navy a request to investigate medals won by John Kerry in Vietnam.
Navy sources said the service will probe the medals, but added that most questions have arisen because of what appear to be errors in processing records.
Kerry received five medals during his four months in combat in Vietnam. Judicial Watch asked the Pentagon to investigate Kerry's receipt of the Silver Star with a "Combat V" designation, which stands for valor under fire.
Kerry's campaign Web site includes military records listing the Combat V citation. Navy procedures show that the Silver Star cannot carry a Combat V designation because part of the reason the medal is awarded is for valor under fire — the added designation would be redundant. The findings of the probe, therefore, will not change the record of Kerry's Vietnam service.
The Navy has said that it's the responsibility of all personnel to correct errors in official records.
At the time, Kerry told the Boston Herald that wrongly wearing the medals is a severe error in judgment.
"Is it wrong? Yes, it is very wrong. Sufficient to question his leadership position? The answer is yes," he is quoted as saying.
Kerry also spoke to the Boston Globe about the matter.
"If you wind up being less than what you're pretending to be, there is a major confrontation with value, self-esteem and your sense of how others view you."
Judicial Watch representatives said the group also wants an investigation into Kerry's third citation for the same Silver Star. In 1986, Kerry received the third citation after requesting a copy of his original citations.
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Here's to hoping the investigate his first and third purple hearts, which to the best of my knowledge no one can give a satisfactor explaination to the people as to how one gets that with no enemy fire.
I really regret the lost practice of putting scum in stocks and pillories. Heck, I'd even settle for a good ol' fashioned tar & feathering for the Frenchman who would be king.
LOL! The Frenchman who would be king indeed!!! LOL! I love it!
If you have never been in the military, you probably don't understand this,. Yes it is a very big deal and speaks volums of the honor and integrity of our true military heroes.
Skerry was, and still is, a medal prostitute.
Sarcasm on: This is an attack on Kerry's patriotism. He was in Vietnam.
Yeah, I would like a clear explanation on that one myself. As I understand it, he falsified his reports or at least dressed them up a little and that is how he got his medals.
My husband was just telling me about this yesterday. The guys at Military.com (Marine discussion area) have been livid about this - many there have been questioning the V on his medal too........... I'm beginning to think we are going to long for the days of Slick Willy - John F'n gives a new meaning to stretching the truth.......
If the form on Kerry's website wasn't logged by the Navy on their master list, then there is a good possibility it is forged. Of course, even if it is a forgery, there is no proof Kerry was personally involved or aware of what happened. However a forged document on Kerry's website would be a major headache for him in any event.
Haha......LOVE your tagline.........
I put this sticker on my truck the other day. I get lots of honks and 'thumbs up'!
The sticker serves 3 purposes:
1 - Shows visible support for "Swift Boat Veterans For Truth" to passing motorists, (encourages our side discourages the libs).
2 - Gets the swiftvets.com website visible to the public, so they can and find out more about 'Hanoi John' Kerry.
3 - Circumvents the lamestream media BIAS filter!
Made by fellow FReeper disabled vet who has a bone to pick with Kerry, like we all do!
Swiftee window sticker thread - get yours! Freep mail /private reply for details.
Fantastic. How dare you!!!
"Dude, that's ****ed up!"
I would definitely honk and wave for that vehicle!!
I live "inside the Beltway". Perhaps that makes me too jaded but it will rock my assessments if anything comes of this other than a cover up of whatever the truth is and a glory, laud and honor to Kerry.
It's been done before.
Thanks - some captions just write themselves.
How did the Kerry cookies crumble?
By Sam Dealey
To hear Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) tell it, his brief foray into the cookie business in the late 1970s gives him a leg up on the concerns of small-business owners. Earlier this month, the Democratic presidential candidate introduced his small-business program with vignettes from his own cookie-making experience.
Yet all that experience kind of, well, crumbles, in the mind of David Liederman, another cookie entrepreneur. Liederman, the founder of the David’s Cookies chain, claims Kerry ripped off the idea from him.
“The bottom line is he just stole it from me,” said Liederman, now a restaurateur and real estate developer in the New York City suburbs.
The Kerry campaign sharply dismissed Liederman’s charge.
“Clearly, the guy who started David’s Cookies didn’t invent cookies,” said spokesman David DiMartino. “John Kerry absolutely denies this charge.”
Kerry’s former venture serves as the backdrop for a number of campaign publicity measures designed to woo voters. In a Vogue magazine profile last year featuring the presidential candidate in surfing wear, Kerry discussed the cookie business at some length.
After dinner one night in Boston, Kerry said, he and a friend had a hankering for cookies. Their search took them to Faneuil Hall. There was no cookie store to be found, but there was an empty retail space. An idea was born, and a store soon followed. The pair named their shop, Kilvert & Forbes Ltd., after their mother’s maiden names, and eventually sold their interest when Kerry’s political career intervened.
“It was a late-night inspiration,” Kerry told Vogue. “I had always had this entrepreneurial piece of me, and I saw it as a great business opportunity.” And this experience, Kerry continued, “stood me in great stead on the [Senate] Small Business Committee.”
However, Liederman recalls a different version of how Kerry’s cookie venture crumbled.
“Some guy who called me up was John Kerry, in ’79 or ’80,” Liederman recalled. “He said he wanted to come down and talk to me about franchising. He came to the office and said he had an incredible space in Boston, which was Faneuil Hall. He said he needed some plans and some layouts and all sorts of things to get the approval of the landlord.”
“So I gave him the layout, the package, and he went back and I didn’t hear from him for six or seven months.”
Then one day Liederman got a call from someone who said they’d seen one of his stores in Faneuil Hall. Not having a store in Boston, Liederman decided to have a look for himself.
“It was a direct, 100-percent knock off of David’s Cookies,” said Liederman, from the appliances to the shop’s design to the cookies themselves. “If you had walked into a David’s Cookie’s store in Manhattan at the same time he opened ‘John’s Cookies’ in Boston, you couldn’t tell the difference.”
In his 1989 autobiography “Running Through Walls,” where the charge first appeared, Liederman wrote that he challenged Kerry on the origin of his business. “I told him he had stolen my idea, and he replied: ‘You’re absolutely right. I am a politician; I shouldn’t be in the cookie business, so let me sell you my store,’” Liederman wrote.
Liederman never bought the store, he said, because Kerry was operating it in violation of his lease. “He was supposed to be selling jams and jellies, not cookies,” he wrote.
DiMartino denied the exchange took place. “John Kerry does not recall having the conversation Mr. Liederman discusses in his book,” he said. “The facts included in Mr. Liederman’s complaint don’t match reality.”
Still, if he wants it, Kerry hasn’t quite lost Liederman’s vote.
“I’d support anybody that wasn’t Bush,” he said. “If Kerry got the nomination, I’d absolutely support him although Bush never stole David’s Cookies from me.”
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012804/kerry.aspx
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