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'Moderate' Muslim myth: Hal Lindsey exposes charade perpetrated by Islamic leaders
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, August 27, 2004 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 08/27/2004 2:56:41 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Friday, August 27, 2004


Hal Lindsey Hal Lindsey
'Moderate' Muslim myth

Posted: August 27, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Hal Lindsey


© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

In November 2001, as the remains of the World Trade Center were still smouldering in New York, the U.S. State Department hosted a widely criticized Ramadan dinner for leaders of the American Muslim community. Among the invited guests were prominent American Muslim leaders Muzzamil Siddiqi and Abdurahman Alamoudi.

The tradition of hosting the first night of the Ramadan feast dated back to 1996, when first lady Hillary Clinton drew up the first guest list, which included Alamoudi.

Alamoudi had long enjoyed an open door to the White House, dating back to the early years of the Clinton administration. He was the founder and former executive director of the American Muslim Council and the American Muslim Foundation. As its executive director, Alamoudi had had repeated high-level contacts with the Clinton White House in late 1995 and early 1996.

According to a Wall Street Journal article by Steve Emerson, on Nov. 9, 1995, Alamoudi met with President Clinton and Vice President Gore at a meeting with 23 Muslim leaders at the White House. Shortly thereafter, Alamoudi was chosen by the Clinton administration to train and certify chaplains for Pentagon's newly-created Muslim military chaplain corps.

On Dec. 8, National Security Adviser Anthony Lake met at the White House with Alamoudi and several board members of the American Muslim Council. On Feb. 8, 1996, Mrs. Clinton wrote a newspaper column based on talking points provided by Alamoudi.

In all, Abdurahman Alamoudi has been an Islamic affairs adviser for the Clinton administration, an official appointee of the Pentagon in charge of choosing Muslim chaplains, and a State Department-selected goodwill ambassador to Muslims.

Alamoudi is a textbook case of how deceptive some perceived "moderate Muslims" can be. It also spotlights how criminally ignorant most of our political leaders are to the true nature of Islam.

Alamoudi has been convicted as a terrorist with indirect links to Osama bin-Laden. He was just convicted in a plot to arrange the assassination of Crown Prince Abdullah.

Lawrence Auster of NewsMax reported Nov. 6, 2000:

When Abdurahman Alamoudi, friend and sometime adviser on Islamic affairs to Hillary Rodham Clinton, stood before a Muslim crowd in Lafayette Park across from the White House this week and passionately declared his support for the terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah, he was revealing the true face of "moderate" Islam. He was also revealing the blindness, or rather the willful complicity, of America's political elites, particularly the Clintons, who have welcomed these Islamic "moderates" into our midst and helped raise them to important positions of influence in American life.

This insight was given 11 months before the 9-11 attacks. No one took heed of the warning. The mistakes and failures of the Clinton administration in identifying and dealing with these threats to America were dumped in the lap of President Bush.

Western culture does not understand that Islam teaches that it is proper to deceive and pretend friendship with an enemy until it gains military superiority. Western minds especially do not understand how Muslims truly do not believe that their acts of extreme terrorism are terrorism. They see them as just actions in pursuit of spreading Islam to the world. It is all a part of Islamic "evangelism" by the sword.

Here is an example. A spokesman for the Islamic Committee for Palestine in Tampa, Fla., in 1995, told an interviewer that:

... his group had no alliance with terrorists. But when asked about Sheik Abdel-Rahman, the blind cleric who organized the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 and who also had spoken at a conference sponsored by this same Tampa group, the spokesman replied that Sheik Rahman was not a terrorist, but a "conservative."

Abdel-Rahman first attempted what the 19 "conservative" Muslims completed on 9-11. But according to the "moderate Muslim" spokesmen, the 19 suicide attackers of 9-11 were not terrorists, they were "conservative" Muslims.

The Koran demands loyalty to Islam as a political entity. An attack against political rulers, like the Afghan Taliban or Iraq's Saddam Hussein, is an attack on Islam, say the Muslim fundamentalists.

Nobody in the United States is alleging the 9-11 attacks are an attack on Christianity. The attacks, the United States says, were aimed at American economic targets, not churches or Christian institutions. It is the terrorists who claim Christianity is the target.

The Islamist argues that the response to the attacks is really an attack on Islam by Christians and Jews. Does that mean American agnostics, atheists and secular humanists are not targets?

One cannot be loyal to both Islam and a national government without violating the teachings of Islam.

The absurdity of the situation is summed up by the contention that exposing Islam's core teachings is considered hate speech, whereas genuine hate speech, supporting terrorism, terror groups and the replacement of our national government with an Islamic nation is simply worshipping God in a different way and worthy of honor.

Is anybody out there listening?




TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hallindsey; moderatemuslims; muslims

1 posted on 08/27/2004 2:56:42 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 08/27/2004 3:00:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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..."...Islam teaches that it is proper to deceive and pretend friendship with an enemy until it gains military superiority. Western minds especially do not understand how Muslims truly do not believe that their acts of extreme terrorism are terrorism. They see them as just actions in pursuit of spreading Islam to the world. It is all a part of Islamic "evangelism" by the sword."...

Read it well


3 posted on 08/27/2004 3:59:44 AM PDT by jolie560 (hE)
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To: JohnHuang2
The Koran demands loyalty to Islam as a political entity. An attack against political rulers, like the Afghan Taliban or Iraq's Saddam Hussein, is an attack on Islam, say the Muslim fundamentalists.

Hal loses credibility with this statement.

4 posted on 08/27/2004 4:17:36 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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"Hal loses credibility with this statement."

How so?

5 posted on 08/27/2004 4:25:58 AM PDT by knarf (A place where anyone can learn anything ... especially that which promotes clear thinking.)
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To: JeepInMazar

>>Hal loses credibility with this statement<<

Could you please explain why? Genuinely asking....


6 posted on 08/27/2004 4:27:23 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("I don't have time in my life to read potato chips" - Netmilsdad)
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To: JohnHuang2

"Western culture does not understand that Islam teaches that it is proper to deceive and pretend friendship with an enemy until it gains military superiority. Western minds especially do not understand how Muslims truly do not believe that their acts of extreme terrorism are terrorism. They see them as just actions in pursuit of spreading Islam to the world. It is all a part of Islamic "evangelism" by the sword."

Western culture, at large, had better start understanding this. I remember a friend telling me years ago that if one does business in the Mid-East, he must remember that lying and deceit is the rule during negotiations with people from that culture. America has so much to learn..I just hope the time will be there to learn it.


7 posted on 08/27/2004 4:30:57 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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I have read parts (not all) of the Koran and the Hadith, the 9-volume monster that is considered by Muslims to be the equivalent of the Koran in legal weight. I cannot find anything in there to support this theory that it is "ok to deceive." Lindsay should have at least provided some Koranic verse. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I don't know of if. I also note he does not quote any Koran or Hadith.

It is very important to understand how Islam works and not just go off half-cocked. All Muslim sects are not alike---there are key differences in how they interpret the Koran and WHO gets to interpret the Koran. That is why I think Sunni Islam is a greater threat, in many ways, than Shia Islam.

8 posted on 08/27/2004 5:51:45 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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That's not exactly true. I know people who do business there too. What they say is that everything is conditioned on the phrase, "If Allah wills it," and they assume that that means that if you choose not to honor a contract, "Allah doesn't will it." So you CAN and MUST pin them down without this phrase, and then they are honor-bound to fulfill their obligations. If it were different, NO ONE would ever do business over there.


9 posted on 08/27/2004 5:53:32 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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