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Poll: Kerry loses ground with voters (Includes new CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll)
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | 26 August 2004 | Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Posted on 08/26/2004 12:42:13 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

Poll: Kerry loses ground with voters

By WILL LESTER ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

WASHINGTON -- Democrat John Kerry has lost ground with voters in their perceptions of his honesty, leadership skills and Vietnam experience during the heated debate over his war record as a swiftboat commander, a poll found.

Ads paid for by a group called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have questioned Kerry's Vietnam service and claim he lied about his actions while piloting a swiftboat on a Vietnam river in the late 1960s. The Kerry campaign has rebutted the claims with Navy documents and other veteran accounts, and Kerry has accused President Bush of being behind the ads paid for by an independent group. Bush has denied that charge.

A month ago, Kerry and President Bush were tied on the question of who has the honesty and integrity to serve as president. Bush now has an advantage on that question, 46 percent to 39 percent, according to a Los Angeles Times poll released Thursday.<

The number of people who feel that in his Vietnam combat missions, Kerry demonstrated qualities America needs in a president has dropped from 58 percent in June to 48 percent now, according to the Times poll.

The poll found Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney with a slight lead, backed by 47 percent to 44 percent for Kerry and running mate John Edwards and 3 percent for independents Ralph Nader and Peter Camejo. The head-to-head matchup has shown very little change with Bush and Kerry tied in July. Other polls released Thursday also found the race very close with Bush-Cheney at 48 percent, Kerry-Edwards at 46 percent and Nader-Camejo at 4 percent in a CNN-USA Today-Gallup poll.

A Battleground Poll, sponsored by George Washington University, found Kerry-Edwards backed by 48 percent, Bush-Cheney backed by 47 percent and Nader-Camejo backed by 3 percent. While the debate over Kerry's Vietnam record appears to have eroded some of his gains on character qualities when compared with Bush, several polls show the race remains very close.

Voters are so deadlocked on their choice for president that the campaigns will need to focus on keeping the intensity of support high and turning them out on Election Day, according to pollsters Ed Goeas, a Republican, and Celinda Lake, a Democrat, who conducted the Battleground survey. That poll found Kerry has solidified support among key groups, like blacks and union voters.

Here are details on the polls' methods:

-The bipartisan Battleground poll of 1,000 likely voters was conducted Aug. 15-17 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

-The Los Angeles Times poll of 1,352 registered voters was conducted Aug. 21-24 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

-The CNN-USA Today poll 709 likely voters was taken Aug. 23-25 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: campaign; election; ethics; exposed; fraud; honesty; kerry; kewl; lurch; personality; poll; polls; president; sbv; sbvt; slip; swiftboats; truth; vietnam
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To: Puppage

it was the best 'implosive' picture i could find. i thought about posting lemmings going off a cliff, too.


21 posted on 08/26/2004 12:56:09 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: Rummyfan

He has his Larry Flynt imitation down pretty good now.

Maybe he has a future in publishing?

Every Dim president has to have a wheelchair bound pornographer waiting around ready to pull cheap stunts on a momment's notice.


22 posted on 08/26/2004 12:56:33 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: onyx

I am looking forward to the Bush Kerry debates. If Kerry flip flopps half as much as is normal for him he'll get creamed.


23 posted on 08/26/2004 12:57:03 PM PDT by chalkman
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I liked it.....


24 posted on 08/26/2004 12:57:40 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Yep, it's a train wreck alright. And my if that isn't toxic (leftist policy) waste I see floating around.

I feel a leftist waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa attack just around the corner.

Conservatives just aren't playin fair. Sniff! Sob... Sniff... (repeat as needed leftist vermin)


25 posted on 08/26/2004 12:58:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: TASMANIANRED

At least they could have had the decency to have sent a popsicle truck along with Cleland, when those no-good lowlifes sent that poor, handicapped man out in 103-degree Texas weather to do the dirty work of the French Candidate.


26 posted on 08/26/2004 12:59:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Kerry Predicted in 1971 "No Bloodbath in Cambodia". TWO MILLION then died: April '75 to January '79)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Bush
Kerry
Gallup (CNN/USAToday)
48
46
LA Times
47
44
Battleground
47
48

27 posted on 08/26/2004 1:02:17 PM PDT by Petronski (Sometimes I'm just too damned cranky.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I love the smell of DNC sweat in the afternoon!


28 posted on 08/26/2004 1:02:46 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Voters gave Clinton a pass on his draft-dodging and got a President who cut the military, cut the intelligence services, and pandered to the liberal socialist world elite, which brought us Osama, the '93 World Trade Center Bombing, the African embassey bombings, and the US Cole bombing.

Can we afford to give Kerry a pass on his past treasonous behavior?

29 posted on 08/26/2004 1:03:02 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Ramsey Clark to Join Panel for Saddam’s Defense

arabnews press release 25 August 2004


NOTE :
Ramsey Clark is pictured below with Kerry and
Vietnam phony vet Al Hubbard
Who was head of the
Vietnam Veterans Against the War movement.




NEW:
FReeper smith288 has an online version of
Kerry's "The New Soldier"
You can read it without downloading pdf files!
CLICK HERE


From Kerry's "The New Soldier":
Al Hubbard Sgt., 22 Troop Carrier Squadron Aug. ’65-June ’66

Emotions: Walking down the flight line at Saigon past stacks of aluminum cases containing American bodies and past stacks of aluminum luggage containing American currency. Seeing the tight, sad face of an Airman loading the bodies aboard a dirty Air Force Transport and the wide smiling face of a stewardess greeting the passengers aboard a clean Pan American Clipper Jet. Hearing a Vietnamese beg you to leave his country and an American colonel tells you to bomb his country. Hearing a Vietnamese invite you to live in his home, after the war and an American explain why you can’t live in his block, after the war. Flying over barren, brown, safe American held terrain and over lush, green unsafe enemy terrain. Feeling happy to be leaving a country in which you do not belong and sad to be returning to a country in which you are not allowed to belong. Sacrificing a portion of your consciousness so you won’t have to deal with being there and building mental blocks so you won’t have to deal with having been there.

- Al Hubbard, proven fraud who never set foot in Viet Nam. The only Vietnamese he ever met was when he was collaborating with the North Vietnamese in Paris
on the American Communist Party's nickel.
John Kerry's explanation: "He (Hubbard) simply exaggarated his particular position.
But nobody knew it at the time. And those things happen."

The New Soldier, (46 pages)
By John Kerry
and Vietnam Veterans
Against the War

PART I (pdf file)
PART II (pdf file)
PART III (pdf file)

Kerry hopes everyone
in the USA gets this book!

NEW:
“Without question,
we were held captive longer
because of the anti-war people,
the Kerrys, the Fondas and Haydens,
the names we knew over there -
they encouraged the enemy to hang on.”
Excerpt from “Stolen Honor” website
- Leo Thorsness
Former Vietnam POW
CLICK HERE




Send this url for the online version

http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/

Send this url for the Stolen Honor website

http://www.stolenhonor.com/


Print this out (46 pages) and disribute it,
especially to the liberals you know.

Copy and paste the links to everyone you know.

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Inro.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier.pdf

http://nomayo.mu.nu/archives/New%20Soldier%20Epilogue.pdf



30 posted on 08/26/2004 1:03:10 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree, sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: Rokke

Actually, I think Kerry dropped a point and Bush dropped three points from 50 - 47 to 48 - 46.


31 posted on 08/26/2004 1:03:55 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: Petronski

I do not believe most of these polls. Ever.


32 posted on 08/26/2004 1:04:16 PM PDT by Republic (As the election date approaches, I pray our Father opens our eyes and ears and hearts to the 'truth')
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To: TASMANIANRED
Bush campaign should say,"We have a president that is moving America forward, while John Kerry has successfully taken us back to the 1970's"
33 posted on 08/26/2004 1:05:25 PM PDT by FesterUSMC
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To: HawkeyeLonewolf

34 posted on 08/26/2004 1:05:33 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Rummyfan
Now the Pubbies have to focus on stopping voter fraud. Every Freeper who is able to do so, should contact their local Republican HQ and volunteer. We have to have at least TWO Republican poll watchers at every polling station, so that one can spell the other for bathroom breaks. If there's just one poll watcher, then the Democrats can lie and claim 200 voters came in and voted while the person took a bathroom break, and who's to say it didn't happen?

Also we have to be available after the polls close so the Dems don't start voting the names in the book that haven't voted.

35 posted on 08/26/2004 1:06:15 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: THX 1138
Rebutted? I don't think so...

Rebuttal in lib speak translates roughly to YEEEEEARRRGH!

36 posted on 08/26/2004 1:06:24 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Notwithstanding
Some things never change...

Page 200: "I called the media. . . . I said, 'If I take some crippled veterans down to the White house and we chain ourselves to the gates, will we get coverage?' 'Oh, yes, we will cover that.' So you are reduced to a position where the only way you can get your ideas out is to stage events."

John Kerry's 1971 Testimony Before the Foreign Relations Committee

Warning: Slow loading .pdf file.

37 posted on 08/26/2004 1:08:09 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: onyx

According to Tony Snow (I have had it with Fox) Bush is in real trouble without a big bounce out of the convention. Now why would Kerry, if he's in such great shape, want a debate every week. Fox News Dynamic Kerry 45, Bush 44. According to Snow, the internals regarding Battleground states are all wonderful for Kerry and bad for Bush. I'm watching less and less Fox, not because I don't want the truth, but because they are constantly fatalistically negative on Bush.


38 posted on 08/26/2004 1:09:02 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: Petronski

I thought LA Times was 49 -46.


39 posted on 08/26/2004 1:11:04 PM PDT by rushmom
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To: Prime Choice

I would hardly call 2 points down an implosion.

But, still nice to see.


40 posted on 08/26/2004 1:12:12 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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