Posted on 08/25/2004 7:43:56 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
On Squeaky's attempt on Ford, I mentioned something on this thread you might find interesting:
Bugliosi.
Well I had more involvement with charlie's people. I transferred to the Antelope Valley Sheriff's station a couple of years later. My second night at the station I arrested another of charlie's boys for burlary. You may recall that during the trial there had been a raid at a chicken ranch where they kept the small children in a hole in the ground.
My second night up here on the desert I arrested the guy in charlie's group that had kept the kids in a hole in the ground. What most people don't realize about charlie is he is such a tiny little guy.
Not down to midget or dwarf size, but he seems to be about five foot tall (I'm only five seven), so when somebody looks tiny to me, their real tiny. He couldn't have weighed a hundred pounds, and he sounded so silly when he'd go off on his monologues.
eg....the man who kidnapped little Steven Straynor only had to serve about 7 yrs and then was let out ....
and the evil creep who attacked a young girl, and sawed her arms off, leaving her to die......he was out in a jiffy....
I don't know what it is about young people in the 60's and 70's.....they seemed to have a total sociopathic attitude towards other human beings ...they seem to think that whatever they do, its justified ....
Kathleen Soliah...aka Sara Olson....she was in on a bankrobbery that ended up with the death of a mother of 5.....yet her sentence will be probably less than 5 yrs.....
to her it was all "collateral" damage.....the price we middle class worker bees have to pay for being middle class worker bees....I guess we're expendable, at least in their eyes...
I didn't realize he was that small! Now that you mention that, I remember when Charlie was caught he was trying to hide in that tiny cupboard, and the arresting officers were surprised anyone could fit in there.
I don't remember if I'd heard about the hole in the ground, but I remember they had a bunch of kids on the Spahn Ranch. Who was the guy who got arrested, if I may ask? I'm trying to remember which of the male Family members were still on the outside after that. Charlie, Beausoleil, Tex, and Bruce Davis were all in jail, and I believe Steve "Clem" Grogan got convicted of the Shorty Shea murder in '71--think he was still running around for a few months before/during the trial, though, if I'm remembering right. I believe Danny DeCarlo was still on the outside.
despite a tearful apologyHeartless parole board.
I don't remember his name, it was in 72 that I arrested him. It took one year to the day to get him convicted of his burglary cuz his attorney kept getting continuances to get the witness to finally quit showing up. The witness got so mad about losing his first job by having to go to court that he made it a point to always show up. Cost the witness to lose 3 jobs and the buglar only got one year (even though he had priors in Texas).
Before I quit the job in 81, I'd see his sorry butt picking sage brush seeds to sell to somebody. Probably used them to make people think whatever he was selling was grass. "hey man, this is good stuff, see all the seeds in it"...LOL
No.
ROFL! I knew this delinquent kid who tried to do something like that with birdseed, believe it or not.
I hope the witness in that trial didn't get in too deep of a hole financially from coming in to testify--that's awful! That attorney sounds like a real scumbag.
On the day of the conviction, he had a smug (the witness) smile on his face and said he thought it was worth it. He was angry that the judge only gave him a year, but he was satisfied that he had seen it through.
That witness sounds like a real trooper!--good for them for sticking it out.
During your rounds with the Dept and the Manson crew, did you ever come across a CNN reporter named Dan Blackburn? I believe the story goes that he fell in love with Van H. and testified for her on one of her first parole dates. From what I understand the judge kicked him off the stand.
That evidently stuffed his career, because he (Blackburn) has not been seen since. (Blackburn worked for MetroMedia before CNN and had some fairly impressive creds in the news business.
I was never in the courtroom during the trial, I'd haul them there in a van, and pick them up after. Before the trial I was working in the jail and tex was in one of my cell blocks (before charlie was picked up)
Fair enough. Cheers.
Was that when he was arrested for public intoxication a few months before the murders?
BTW I just noticed Tex has a website here:
might have been, but he must have had a warrant, public intoxication (647f) usually resulted in 4 hours in the lockup, a warrant check and out the door.
In March of 1969, Tex decided to go back to the family. Things had changed since he left, people were now buzzing about an upcoming revolution called Helter Skelter. In April, he was arrested in Van Nuys for public intoxication. He was high on Belladonna, slithering on his hands and knees through a crowd of children saying "beep, beep, beep".
a drug arrest. that would have been handled differently
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