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This Band of Brothers Has a Different View of Kerry (Swift Boat Vets A MAJOR Problem For Lurch!)
Seattle Times ^ | 8/5/04 | Collin Levey

Posted on 08/05/2004 4:08:05 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Don't look now, but the Kerry campaign is about to start attacking a group of Vietnam War veterans. After making Kerry's service as a swift-boat captain a cornerstone of the Democratic National Convention last week, the campaign's new goal will be to discredit some of Kerry's fellow soldiers as (shudder) politically motivated.

Specifically, the trouble comes in the form of a band of veterans who served with Kerry during his glory tour in Vietnam and who will publish a book of their own memories of the young skipper called "Unfit for Command" in coming weeks.

As a chronicle and anticipated exposé of the young soldier's actual leadership in the jungles, the book will cast a decidedly less-flattering light on the candidate as soldier. Among the charges are that Kerry exaggerated his injuries and was inept at capturing the respect of his men, who saw him as overweening and ambitious.

With the military nuzzling of the Boston convention receding into the past, the Kerry campaign will come at his former comrades with hell's fury. The soldiers — by one count the vast majority of Kerry's boatmates — will soon be cast as a bunch of demented old men, out to make a quick buck in the service of partisanship.

For a preview of the talking points, Democrats might be directed to the recent writings of New York Observer columnist Joe Conason in the online diary, Salon. Over the past few months, he has written three pieces on the nefarious connections of the anti-Kerry Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, remarking, among other things, that the group, classified as a 527 organization, has connections with well-known Republican operatives in Texas.

He calls the Swift Boat Veterans "conservative Republicans embittered over Kerry's later antiwar activism" and describes the group's founder, retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, as having "gained notoriety in Vietnam as a strutting, cigar-chewing Navy captain... whose obsession with body counts and 'scorekeeping' may have provoked the February 1969 massacre of Vietnamese civilians at Thanh Phong."

Of course, we wouldn't dare to imagine a political bone in the bodies of those swift-boat veterans who have hugged up to Kerry. But picking apart the service of any veteran is always an ugly business: In war, some men will naturally be more impressive than others and that fact of temperament shouldn't denigrate the service by others. If Kerry wasn't the best and the bravest in the service, it should be no disparagement to his participation.

But veterans, broadly speaking, have long been considered a natural constituency of Republicans. And in none of this do we wish to discourage the Democrats from their conversion. It did the heart good to see the party, formerly inclined to bumper-sticker sentiment that looked forward to the day when the military had to "hold a bake sale to buy a bomber," now awash in admirals and generals and other manly men.

The problem isn't a hawkish Democratic Party but a historically dishonest one. As one swift boat commander put it to The Boston Globe, though Kerry was a "great American fighting man," when he returned home, he was equally ambitious to make his mark in the antiwar movement. "I think he was saying whatever he needed to say," the veteran, Michael Bernique, explained.

It's an unhappy impression of unrivaled opportunism that continues to define Kerry now as it did then, and which strikes many voters as the most legitimate and adhesive charge against his qualification to be commander in chief.

The designers and producers of last week's Democratic National Convention in Boston are likely a bit down in the mouth this week following Kerry's post-convention non-bounce. All the klieg lights, hors d'oeuvres and cumulative weight of the biggest hippos in the party added up to a big zilch in the polls. We can speculate why, but there's no doubt the rich mother lode of GOP ads accusing him of being a congenital flip-flopper (a critique pioneered long ago by Kerry's Democratic opponents) has acted as a drag on his ratings.

The fundamental problem with Kerry's campaign is that it presumes the worst thing possible about American elections: that the voters are too dumb to see through the holograms. An alien watching the convention might have reasonably assumed that the Democrats had nominated a 28-year-old for the presidency, so absent was any mention of the candidate's other career in the U.S. Senate.

If Kerry wants the leadership campaign to be about his time in Vietnam, he and his emissaries should be careful about impugning the motives of his veteran detractors. As one of them said, "We didn't lose the war on the ground in Vietnam, we lost it at home, and at home John Kerry was the field general."


TOPICS: Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: election2004; johnfkerry; swiftboatveterans; thetruthcomesout; unfitforcommand
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1 posted on 08/05/2004 4:08:06 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
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To: tomkow6; Old Sarge

ping!


2 posted on 08/05/2004 4:12:35 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Fox n Friends just ran the ad!


3 posted on 08/05/2004 4:14:48 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

bump


4 posted on 08/05/2004 4:18:44 AM PDT by wingman1 (Hey Kerry. Why the long face?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

What's wrong here?

This is a very objective, neutral, and balanced article for the Seattle papers.

Did we pass through a neutrino field?


5 posted on 08/05/2004 4:19:04 AM PDT by x1stcav (Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too.)
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6 posted on 08/05/2004 4:20:31 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; x1stcav

I don't recognize the author's name in the lineup of usual suspects at the Times. I wonder if he's new....


7 posted on 08/05/2004 4:24:00 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Are you sure this was in the seattle times?


8 posted on 08/05/2004 4:24:34 AM PDT by GailA ( hanoi john, I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Just mythoughts
We are about to see the Democrat slime machine released on these guys. The MSM will be all over them. They will get individual and group cavity searches like Robert Bork and Ken Star. Hopefully they have been prepared and are ready to stand their ground, individually and collectively. If they are real smart they will hire a mouth piece and force the MSM to go to that single point of contact... otherwise there will be a lot of "divide and conquer" against them looking for any opening that can deflect their criticism...

By the way I admire them for doing this. It take nads and these guys have them...
9 posted on 08/05/2004 4:25:46 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Just mythoughts

This is a Juliet Huddy ping, a Fox & Friends ping and a Swiftboat up John eFing's yazoo ping!


10 posted on 08/05/2004 4:28:08 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

The media must still be trying to figure out what to do about this. The Washington Times and the Washington Post have nothing in the print versions about this at all. That doesn't mean it's unimportant. It only means they don't want to participate, yet. They need to take time to figure out what SPIN to put on this story.


11 posted on 08/05/2004 4:30:10 AM PDT by vharlow
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Great quote:

If Kerry wants the leadership campaign to be about his time in Vietnam, he and his emissaries should be careful about impugning the motives of his veteran detractors. As one of them said, "We didn't lose the war on the ground in Vietnam, we lost it at home, and at home John Kerry was the field general."

Seems like Kerry's plan to highlight his Vietnam days might backfire!

12 posted on 08/05/2004 4:31:32 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Jet Jaguar

bttt


13 posted on 08/05/2004 4:32:39 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: RedEyeJack
"We are about to see the Democrat slime machine released on these guys. The MSM will be all over them."


You are probably correct, however, the timing of these guys does not really give the "media" being the lazies they are much time to dig very deep.

I expect the "media" to do its best to ignore them more than seek to expose them especially since this group said from the git go they are non-partisan. The media will be hard pressed to find any overt connection with the RNC campaign machine.

This book is a frontal assault to JFKerry's lies and to discuss the book and its contents will cause more people to question the claims of JFKerry than to ignore what he has claimed.
14 posted on 08/05/2004 4:32:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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BTTT


15 posted on 08/05/2004 4:32:43 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: vharlow
today's Washington Times article on Unfit For Command
16 posted on 08/05/2004 4:35:04 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"The soldiers — by one count the vast majority of Kerry's boatmates"

soldiers?

boatmates?

Should read sailors and shipmates...doesn't anyone do any research anymore?

17 posted on 08/05/2004 4:39:30 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Neal Boortz is going to talk today with the doctor who treated sKerry for his first wound (he then got 1st purple heart for it) in Vietnam. The doc says it was no purple heart wound. At the very least, this ought to liven up the demand for sKerry to release his military records, as Mr Bush did. sKerry's toast.


18 posted on 08/05/2004 4:40:42 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Just mythoughts
Hannity used the ad as a teaser on H and C last night, ran a snippet of it at the very end of the show. "Tune in tomorrow to see the ad"

Kind of pathetic of FOX to do it that way. Joe Scarborough ran the entire ad on his show.
19 posted on 08/05/2004 4:47:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (John kerry is unbalanced)
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To: BillyCrockett; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; ...
Neal Boortz is going to talk today with the doctor who treated sKerry for his first wound (he then got 1st purple heart for it) in Vietnam. The doc says it was no purple heart wound. At the very least, this ought to liven up the demand for sKerry to release his military records, as Mr Bush did. sKerry's toast.

Thanks.

HEADS UP................Tune into BOORTZ today!

BOORTZ's Website

20 posted on 08/05/2004 4:48:40 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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