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I WANT MY SEEDS ! ! [shameless vanity]
7-10-04 | EA

Posted on 07/10/2004 10:36:34 AM PDT by EggsAckley

A week or so ago I ordered some farm supplies off of the internet. My county is so business-loathing that I usually have to go out of the county or out on the net to make certain purchases.

I ordered a small portable greenhouse; it arrived a week later. I ordered a gallon of dog/cat repellent; it arrived yesterday. But the fifty pounds of orchard seeds, a grazing mix, has NOT arrived. My UPS driver tells me that it's being "held" at UPS because the county needs to inspect it. He said he saw the box and it was open, but the "inspection lady" hadn't seen it yet.

Now, this is NOT the first time they've done this to me. A couple of years ago I ordered fifty root starts for a tree called Paulownia. THOSE plants, the county CONFISCATED! Yes, confiscated! The Florida company who sold them to me was outraged, and agreed to send me my plants to another, out-of-county address, at no charge. In other words, my county ripped off the Florida company for several hundred dollars.

I WANT MY SEEDS! I want to get my land seeded before the rainy season, and these mental midgets here in Santa Cruz County are preventing me from doing that.

Since I found out about this on late Friday afternoon, of course I'll have to wait till Monday to start making phone calls. Other counties don't do this. Next time I'll have the shipment sent to my friend in Sunnyvale and avoid these Nazis.

/rant off.


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1 posted on 07/10/2004 10:36:34 AM PDT by EggsAckley
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To: Carry_Okie; The Other Harry; hedgetrimmer

*ping*


2 posted on 07/10/2004 10:37:23 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time!)
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To: EggsAckley

Just Damn!


3 posted on 07/10/2004 10:38:26 AM PDT by buffyt (Party for Bush Cheney - July 15 - all across USA. Look for one in your area. I am having one.)
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To: EggsAckley

I have some near-dead houseplants that are yours for the asking.

Pots 'n' all.

<|:)~


4 posted on 07/10/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by martin_fierro (P a t r v v s M a x i m v s)
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To: EggsAckley

That's what this lady said ;-)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1168803/posts


5 posted on 07/10/2004 10:41:20 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: martin_fierro

hehehehe


6 posted on 07/10/2004 10:41:32 AM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: EggsAckley
Move to Virginia. Gays boycott us and the gardening is great.


Oh yes bring the white peacock.

and any elephants you might have, two legged variety best.
7 posted on 07/10/2004 10:41:35 AM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: martin_fierro

Can the county open your mail like that legally???


8 posted on 07/10/2004 10:41:44 AM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (The U. S. A. is a Republic, not a Democracy)
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To: EggsAckley
A "friend" of mine (cough, cough) has about 5 pounds of seeds - you're welcome to them. While they're not orchard seeds, if you plant them then smoke the resulting plant, you won't care.

;)

9 posted on 07/10/2004 10:43:51 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: EggsAckley

That sucks!!!!!!!


10 posted on 07/10/2004 10:43:55 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("We haven't begun military action. the world will know when we do." -Marine in Fallujah)
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To: EggsAckley

How does one inspect the seeds? By tasting them one at a time?


11 posted on 07/10/2004 10:46:36 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: EggsAckley
Sorry about yer seeds, maybe you should move back to America. (just kidding). I've ordered several plants and seeds from companies saying "we cannot ship to California (and a couple other states)." I guess it's an agricultural thing with the threat of bringing in foreign plant species or pests.

But still, it's a pain in the butt.

BTW, I tried to go to your website (from your profile) cause the stuff looks cool. But the link says it ain't there.

12 posted on 07/10/2004 10:46:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 20 days...)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Can the county open your mail like that legally???

For the most part they can do whatever they want anymore. You can thank the whining, squealing morons (some who frequent this forum) hiding under their bed demanding safety from all evils.

You know, the ones that bleat "well if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" everytime one of theirs grabs another freedom.

13 posted on 07/10/2004 10:47:03 AM PDT by AAABEST (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Can the county open your mail like that legally???

For agricultural products, probably.

14 posted on 07/10/2004 10:47:09 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (I'm going on vacation in 20 days...)
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To: asgardshill

"Save Your Seeds!"

'60s flashback placemarker. ;^)


15 posted on 07/10/2004 10:47:45 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: EggsAckley

Things sure are screwed up with the borders. They stop a 2 ounce houseplant at the border but let 200 tons of pot drive right through.


16 posted on 07/10/2004 10:49:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: headsonpikes

I have the oddest craving for Twinkies. A whole box.


17 posted on 07/10/2004 10:49:25 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Can the county open your mail like that legally???

Probably can out here in Kalifornia. Especially if they are marked as agricultural products. Lots of focus on imported pests which impact crops, grape vines, etc.

LBT

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18 posted on 07/10/2004 10:49:57 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: EggsAckley

That's terrible! If I lived close enough I'd offer to accept any of your deliveries and bring them to you, but I live two time zones away.


19 posted on 07/10/2004 10:50:19 AM PDT by Desdemona (Go Cards!)
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To: EggsAckley

You are a doper!!!


20 posted on 07/10/2004 10:52:51 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Desdemona

You would have to get past the border patrol. CA can't afford to guard the Mexican border completely because they also guard their other borders with the United States. California is a Federal project.


21 posted on 07/10/2004 10:54:16 AM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: AAABEST
For the most part they can do whatever they want anymore. You can thank the whining, squealing morons (some who frequent this forum) hiding under their bed demanding safety from all evils. You know, the ones that bleat "well if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to hide" everytime one of theirs grabs another freedom. Figured that needed to be repeated.. God's wrath is integral in His mercy and love.
22 posted on 07/10/2004 10:55:40 AM PDT by Spirited
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To: RightWhale

Come live in the midwest. Our only border problem is with Arkansas. Well, Kansas during college basketball season.


23 posted on 07/10/2004 10:57:33 AM PDT by Desdemona (The dog days have officially hit. Go Cards!)
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To: EggsAckley
Check with the county and see if any of the commissioners names happen to be "Guido". ; )
24 posted on 07/10/2004 11:00:38 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: EggsAckley

Are you growing weed...

fess up


25 posted on 07/10/2004 11:01:10 AM PDT by sharktrager (Help Laura beat Tuh-Ray-Za http://scoreboards.hotornot.com/2004electionwives)
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To: EggsAckley

I can understand why they confiscated the Paulownia. Egads, what a mess those things make! Only one tree spawns 2,000,000 seeds, and the things grow like weeds and crowd out more desirable native plants.


26 posted on 07/10/2004 11:01:27 AM PDT by Log
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To: EggsAckley

Oh, just admit you were wanting to plant pot. Stop hiding behind "business-loathing" inspectors.


27 posted on 07/10/2004 11:03:27 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
For agricultural products, probably.

Due to pest outbreaks and such I would say you are probably right.

I wonder if he can buy it from a local source more easily.

28 posted on 07/10/2004 11:08:12 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Never mind. I see he doesn't want to do that.


29 posted on 07/10/2004 11:09:39 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Become a monthly donor! Viking Kittens do not live by troll alone.)
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To: EggsAckley
I WANT MY SEEDS!

Get these and you won't have to buy them any more - The Ark Institute non-hybrid seed

30 posted on 07/10/2004 11:12:39 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: EggsAckley

For a second there....I thought you were looking for a sperm donor.


31 posted on 07/10/2004 11:19:20 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (Simple physics: Heat sand hot enough...it becomes Glass!)
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To: EggsAckley

If you had just ordered pot or opium poppy seeds they'd have hand delivered them to your door.

Are they stuck in the county or at the state border?

Damn, next time have the seed supplier mark the package as pornography and put it in a brown wrapper...


32 posted on 07/10/2004 11:20:18 AM PDT by Lx (Go ahead, prove Mel Gibson wrong Kyle, go ahead...)
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To: RightWhale
Things sure are screwed up with the borders. They stop a 2 ounce houseplant at the border but let 200 tons of pot drive right through.

Agriculture has a duty to inspect incoming fruits, nuts and flakes (look out, San Francisco) for any kind of pests that could ruin our agriculture and thus our economy. I don't know what the story is with EggsAckley's seeds, and I hope it's resolved quickly, but it is routine to check such things.

Believe me, we don't "let" pot drive right through. We look for it, find it, and confiscate it. Sometimes we miss it, but it's definitely not deliberate when we do.

We make seizures all the time, it just doesn't make the news. Had a huge one in Blaine of crystal meth coming from Canada just a few days ago... did anyone outside of Blaine hear about that?

33 posted on 07/10/2004 11:23:16 AM PDT by SandyInSeattle (Monthly Donors NEVER need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: Mark in the Old South
and any elephants you might have, two legged variety best.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!

You're right about the gardening (and VA gained 2 more two-legged elephants when we moved here last year!!!!)

34 posted on 07/10/2004 11:24:16 AM PDT by Gabz (End FReepatons.......Become a monthly donor.........$5 won't kill you...but will keep FR alive)
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To: asgardshill
ROTFL! I don't think he needs that kind. :)

Welcome to FR, btw. I take it by your profile that you're a Stargate fan?

35 posted on 07/10/2004 11:26:28 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Change?" "Yes, I think I did!" - 'Monk' TV show)
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To: Log; EggsAckley; LloydChristmas

Hey! I ordered some Paulownia trees online a couple of years ago from Atlanta. I live in the heat (-r) of Texas. They were seedlings. Now I have two large trees and one small one. Started with six, but had to transplant and remove some when we did some rearranging in the backyard.

The two originals are now well over 10 feet tall, have huge leaves, and are springing branches now. One transplant survived but is behind the other two in growth.

Tell me about the seedlings that spring up? I haven't seen any. I would love to have more.

btw, they were shipped regular mail and I had no trouble getting them.


36 posted on 07/10/2004 11:28:02 AM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Free Mumia! er, Free Padilla!, no, that's been done. I know, FREE SADDAM!, yeah, that's the ticket!)
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To: 4mycountry
I take it by your profile that you're a Stargate fan?

Thankee. And you are correct, sir or madam. I once had a CO (Navy, a long time ago) who acted a lot like Col. O'Neill. I dragged him out of as many bars after closing time as he did me.

37 posted on 07/10/2004 11:31:34 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: humblegunner; EggsAckley; Bacon Man

38 posted on 07/10/2004 11:33:28 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I'm thinkin' of a master plan . . .)
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To: Xenalyte

The little burns on the shirt collar are brilliant! Well done to the artist.


39 posted on 07/10/2004 11:35:26 AM PDT by asgardshill
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To: asgardshill
LOL. :)

It's madam, btw.

40 posted on 07/10/2004 11:37:37 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Change?" "Yes, I think I did!" - 'Monk' TV show)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

They're not a problem when they're in your yard. Most people keep their lawns mowed and new trees don't appear. However, the seeds blow for miles like dandelions, and they spread prolificly. The feds and some states are spending money (read that as tax revenues) to control and eliminate wild paulownia. Do a search on the internet and put in "Paulownia" and "invasive."


41 posted on 07/10/2004 11:38:05 AM PDT by Log
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To: asgardshill


True. True.
42 posted on 07/10/2004 11:38:37 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I'm thinkin' of a master plan . . .)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

If we had businesses here that would sell them, of course I would buy them locally. Either that or drive 150 miles to other counties. I'm trying to avoid the driving.


43 posted on 07/10/2004 11:43:21 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time!)
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To: EggsAckley
I don't care what kind of plants you import. However, I do care about what plants leave your property unwittingly. Are you willing, in purchasing those materials for your property, to be financially accountable for control of their progeny should they escape? Have you committed the funds to accomplish that? No, it's not a joke.

I have a neighbor who owns a piece of property where the house had burned down 40 years ago. Like many folks at that time, the house had eucalyptus trees around it. When it burned down the eucalyptus seed spread for a quarter mile. Now those trees adjoin my property, even hanging over it in places. Why should I have to pay the time and money to deal the consequences if those trees burn and the seeds sprout all over my land?

I have no love for the police state tactics of the County of Santa Cruz, but if someone had been paying more attention to imported plant material we wouldn't have blackened, dying madrones or sudden oak death. America would still have chestnuts and elms.

44 posted on 07/10/2004 11:43:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: EggsAckley
Thanks for posting this. Just when I think that L.A. County is as goofy a place as one could possibly live, Santa Clara County steps up to the plate and proves me wrong.

I feel much better now.

...not that this helps you at all, but you get the picture.

I'll stop now.

45 posted on 07/10/2004 11:46:52 AM PDT by Redcloak (This tagline closed for remodeling. We apologize for any inconvenience.)
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To: Ms. AntiFeminazi

Most of my paulownias died from lack of water, and the four or five I still have DO NOT have any seedlings springing up. They are propagated through root stock primarily. Yes, the seeds CAN sprout, but take much longer to grow.

Try digging up some of the root stock; I think that will work. And no, they have NOT become the spreading mess that we are led to believe. They are beautiful and refreshing in the landscape. I DO believe, however, that if they get into waterways they WOULD be a problem. I don't have any waterways on my mountain.


46 posted on 07/10/2004 11:47:38 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time!)
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To: Xenalyte
ROTFLMAO!!
47 posted on 07/10/2004 11:48:29 AM PDT by EggsAckley (You can't be pro small business and pro trial lawyer at the same time!)
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To: EggsAckley

That's disgusting! You should just let him take you to dinner first like everybody else.


48 posted on 07/10/2004 11:48:36 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: EggsAckley
A couple of years ago I ordered fifty root starts for a tree called Paulownia. THOSE plants, the county CONFISCATED! Yes, confiscated!

Aren't those things related to kudzu?

49 posted on 07/10/2004 11:49:51 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider
Can the county open your mail like that legally???

First class mail through the Postal Service is protected from inspection by anyone except the Postal Inspection Service. Mail other than first class, and 'mail' carried by other carriers (like UPS) enjoy no such protection.

50 posted on 07/10/2004 11:50:35 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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