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Florida Woman gunned down in front of police station
Ocala (Florida) Star Banner ^ | July 6, 2004 | MABEL PEREZ AND RICK CUNDIFF

Posted on 07/06/2004 8:44:15 PM PDT by Mulder

OCALA - The slaying of Central Florida Community College professor Debra Vazquez on Sunday hit close to home for students and other college staff who knew her.

"I was shocked," said Marie Poulos, a student. "We were going to get together soon. I just got back from vacation and was going to show her some pictures."

On Sunday 50-year-old Vazquez was gunned down by her husband, Jose Vazquez, in front of the Ocala police station. She had gone there to get help. He later committed suicide.

Late Monday, police said they were still trying to piece together some of the reasons why the couple may have been having marital problems.

Court records indicate Debra Vazquez had filed for divorce on Feb. 9.

"Right now, we're talking to more family members, trying to get a grasp on what happened," said Police Department spokesman Sgt. Russ Kern. "We're trying to fill in the puzzle."

Meanwhile, others try to cope with the loss.

"She was one of those people that was very active," said Ron Cooper, a social sciences and humanities professor. "She inspired not only her students but her colleagues to work harder."

Vazquez served on several on-campus committees. For the 2003-2004 school year, she was committee chair for CFCC yearly project involving the school's theme, service. She was a member of the Teaching Service Institute, a campus entity geared toward providing the essential tools for teachers in the classroom. She was also adviser for the state and national award-winning campus magazine, Imprints. Vazquez taught English during the college's Summer A session.

It was difficult for colleagues to believe the news.

"I'm just floored because I had no inkling that there was any trouble like that," said Dava Tobey, a journalism professor. "Part of me can't believe it. I considered her a friend. I never knew of any problems between her and her husband.

"She wasn't the type of woman who was argumentative. She was very sweet. That's the whole injustice of it. This would never be a solution to anything. . . . I'm kind of numb now. I bawled this morning, but afterward I was mad."

Several people were angry that the police station was not open.

"What are other women going to think now if they can't turn to the police?" Cooper asked. "If you know a friend and they were in trouble, we'd all say to 'go to the Police Department.' It's amazing. What should have been a safe haven was totally unmanned.

"I think the anger that we feel or confusion is directed toward that. I guess I better go there during normal business hours. I suspect that many people were just as surprised as I was. If one person had been there, she might have been with us today."

Elvira Surmons, program facilitator for the Communications and Fine Arts Department, said she was shocked when she heard the news. Surmons was going to begin training Vazquez in August because in January Vazquez was taking the position of program facilitator -- or head of the Communications and Fine Arts Department.

"It's a great loss for CFCC, to our department," she said. "I think we will have a time for grieving, but we shall overcome it. It's going to take time. It's sad but it brings us to a greater awareness of how instant life can be."

Poulos, an Imprints staff member, worked closely with Vazquez on the literary magazine. The staff would meet with Vazquez every Monday night.

Vazquez had published her own poetry in the magazine.

Poulos said she never talked about her personal life but described how, on one occasion, she and other staffers became concerned.

"There was this one time when we were kind of curious about what was going on," Poulos said. "And we noticed she was wasn't wearing a wedding ring."

Cooper also said he did not know of personal problems.

"I met her husband several times, but he wasn't really involved in campus life," Cooper said. "Debra was a private person. She kept things to herself. I think only her closest friends knew about her marriage problems."

At Richmond's Revenge, the Vazquez's farm at 2756 S.W. 117th Court, the gates were closed Monday, with no indication of anyone inside. A lone horse and several goats paced inside the fence.

The farm, situated on three acres, is listed for sale at $209,900.

The Vazquezes have lived next door to Richard and Ruth Dillon's horse farm for about six or seven years, Richard Dillon said Monday.

"They were great neighbors, super, super people," Richard Dillon said. "They were just perfect neighbors. . . . I can't speak any more highly of any two people than Jose and Debbie."

The Vazquezes raised Paso Fino horses, and Dillon and his wife raise quarter horses.

"We used to compare notes on the horses," Dillon recalled Monday.

Another neighbor, Ivory Mack, described Jose Vazquez as "a pretty good guy."

"I talked to him all the time," Mack said. "Every time I saw him, he was a happy guy to me. . . . To me, he was a good guy. I don't know what went wrong."

Jose Vazquez frequently went to Puerto Rico to tend to business interests there, Dillon said.

"Jose told me a couple of times he owned a coffee plantation and banana plantation in Puerto Rico," he said. "He would go over for three or four months and take care of business."

Dillon learned of the murder-suicide on the evening news Sunday. He called the news a "very, very deep shock."

"When I called my wife to tell her, I could barely bring myself to speak," he said. "I feel as though I've lost two very, very dear friends. They were great friends, that's all."


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1 posted on 07/06/2004 8:44:16 PM PDT by Mulder
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To: *bang_list
According to the antis, here is a woman that did everything "right".

She didn't carry a gun for self defense, and instead went to the police station when she feared for her life. Only the station was "closed for business".

Now she is dead.

People need to learn that they, and they alone, are responsible for their safety.

Even the Ocala police chief was honest enough to admit that even if an officer had been on duty, they might not have been able to save her life.

2 posted on 07/06/2004 8:46:59 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: Mulder
I agree.

You don't need a permit to carry a cell phone for 9-1-1.

3 posted on 07/06/2004 9:11:40 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: TNdandelion
You don't need a permit to carry a cell phone for 9-1-1.

You misdialed.

The correct number to dial is 1-9-1-1

4 posted on 07/06/2004 9:13:38 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: Mulder

Now I guess I must be confused. The people who want to eliminate guns say the police will protects us, we don't need guns. Yet here is a case where someone is killed in front of a police station. How many police would it have taken to protect the victim? Probably four: one in front, one in back and one on either side. However, in some cases, four may not be enough.


5 posted on 07/06/2004 9:49:50 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Mulder

for those who cannot recognize sarcasm... the number on cell phones is still 9-1-1... not 1-9-1-1...

the 1-9-1-1 refers to the 1911 model handgun, the number to recall if you want instant access to life saving techniques...

plus in this case, instant divorce, instant ownership of coffee plant in puerto rico and instant availability for the democratic professor she's been probably seeing on the sly...


teeman


6 posted on 07/07/2004 6:16:55 AM PDT by teeman8r
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
When I was in California, when events like this occurred, we used to point out to anti-gun people how that the police are not legally required to protect anyone, as outlined in CALIFORNIA CODES, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 844-846. People used to be utterly surprised to find this out, having bought the BS that "the police are there to protect you".

I am currently looking for a similar set of codes for the state of Florida. I know these must exist, since every state has protected itself in this fashion. Can anyone offer any pointers to this section of the Florida state code?

Thanks,

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

7 posted on 07/07/2004 6:17:00 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower
I happened to know just where my copy of Dial 911 and Die! was... here's the details:

Fla. Stat § 768.28
Everton v. Willard, 468 So. 2d 936, 038 (Fla. 1985)
Wong v. City of Miami, 237 So. 2d 132 (Fla. 1970)
Office of the State Attorney v. Parrotino, 628 So. 2d 1097 (Fla. 1993)
Commercial Carrier Corp. v. Indian River County, 371 So. 2d 1010, 1018-1021 (Fla. 1979)
Bowden v. Henderson, 700 So. 2d 714, 717

8 posted on 07/07/2004 6:31:09 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel; Joe Brower
Many thanks. For anyone else, the FLA Statutes are here: http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?Mode=View%20Statutes&Submenu=1&Tab=statutes
9 posted on 07/07/2004 6:32:46 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: mvpel; stainlessbanner
That's it, good sirs. Many thanks!

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 07/07/2004 6:59:16 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower

I profer the following:

Florida statutes:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Index&Title_Request=XLVII#TitleXLVII

Try Chapter 943 - department of Law Enforcement..

Look for something like cause for dismissal.. What you are looking for is a statute that states an officer can be dismissed for failure to perform his duties or obligations as a law enforcement officer..

That's about as close as I can come.. ( If the state can fire an LEO for not doing his job, a citizen should be able to file charges for same offense. [ IMHO ] )

Hope this helps..


11 posted on 07/07/2004 7:03:04 AM PDT by Drammach (Ripley... Last survivor of the Nostromo.... signing off....)
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To: Joe Brower

I reckon a call to the local PD would probably get you the exact code numbers.


12 posted on 07/07/2004 7:05:42 AM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: henderson field

They would not do that. Their job is to protect society as a whole and not individuals. That is why they don't provide bodyguards to people who have filed for restraining orders.


13 posted on 07/07/2004 7:23:13 AM PDT by looscnnn ("Live free or die; death is not the worst of evils" Gen. John Stark 1809)
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks Joe, this one goes on the LB site now!
14 posted on 07/07/2004 7:28:24 AM PDT by HangFire (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: Joe Brower

I always find it interesting that people completely unwilling to defend themselves or their family think that a complete stranger should do it for them. They are usually the same people who wouldn't ask their families for money (usually because their families don't think that they will use it wisely) but are completely willing to ask complete strangers for assistance (i.e. you and me via the taxpayer funded government agencies).


15 posted on 07/07/2004 7:49:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Well, most people nowadays are simply brainwashed; they buy the BS without a thought. Which is why they suffer brain-lock when presented with utter contradictions such as that seen here -- all her life, this poor woman has probably heard over and over again the canard of "the police will protect you", only to find that there is no such obligation. Kind of late to find that out now!

And the fact that such promises are made when disarmament is the agenda makes such hypocrisy more than mere demagoguery, but tantamount to tyranny.

And, as you point out, not lifting a finger in your own defense yet expecting total strangers to put their lives on the line for you is morally bankrupt at best, a concept covered in enlightening detail in Jeff Snyder's "A Nation of Cowards".

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

16 posted on 07/07/2004 7:57:54 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Joe Brower; Blood of Tyrants

In the particular case, I am truly sorry that the victim apparently did not think of self-defense as an option.

From the accounts in the thread-head article, it seems as though she and the perp "talked through" the problems--at least until recently.

She probably figured that "talking through" would continue to work, although she SHOULD have thought about other options as well.

FL is a CCW State. Wouldn't have been too hard for her...


17 posted on 07/07/2004 9:16:51 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Joe Brower

dunno 'bout FL state code, but the USSC has already made it quite clear that no police officer, anywhere in the US, is under any obligation to enter harm's way to save any citizen's life, health, or property.


18 posted on 07/07/2004 10:45:26 AM PDT by King Prout (Viggo Bozodozeus is your friend... Viggo Bozodozeus deserves all trust... submit to Viggo Bozodozeus)
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To: WestCoastGal

FYI


19 posted on 07/07/2004 11:56:25 AM PDT by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!(Except War & Love))
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To: Joe Brower

If you have an attorney just goto the lawyers office & ask . If they don't know it off the top their head they will be able to look it up in roughly 10 minutes time.


20 posted on 07/07/2004 12:00:14 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 REACH OUT & THUMP SOMEONE .50BMG REACH OUT & CRUSH SOMEONE!)
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