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Detroit gun dealer shouldn't face charges for alleged "straw buy"
MLive.com ^ | June 16, 2004 | The Associated Press

Posted on 06/16/2004 12:28:58 PM PDT by wmichgrad

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — A gun dealer should not face a misdemeanor charge for selling a firearm to an undercover law enforcement officer who indicated it was for an underage person who didn't have a license, the Michigan Supreme Court said in a decision released Wednesday.

The court ruled that longtime Detroit gun dealer General Laney didn't violate federal or state statutes that allow licensed 18-year-olds to buy or receive a pistol from a private party, but prohibits them from purchasing a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer.

In April 1999, two Wayne County sheriff's deputies — Walter Epps and Roshunda Coming — posed as customers interested in buying a gun for unlicensed 18-year-old civilian Antonio Little, who was working with them. It was intended to be a "straw buy," in which an individual who is legally able to purchase a weapon fills out paperwork on behalf of the individual who can't own one.

The Supreme Court pointed out that the dealer told the undercover deputies that he couldn't sell a gun to an 18-year-old without a license. The dealer also refused to accept payment for a firearm from Little, insisting that it come from one of the undercover deputies although they had indicated it was for Little.

The Supreme Court said there is no dispute that Epps bought the gun because he had a gun license, selected it and handed Laney the money to pay for it.

"Because (the dealer) complied with the plain and unambiguous language of the stature, he committed no crime," the Supreme Court said.

The Supreme Court ruling reverses a decision handed down by the Michigan Court of Appeals, which ruled that decision should be left to a jury.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; entrapment; gundealer; gunlicesne; guns; police; setup; undercover; weapons
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1 posted on 06/16/2004 12:28:58 PM PDT by wmichgrad
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Don't Michigan cops have more important things to do than set up bogus sting operations on law-abiding citizens?


2 posted on 06/16/2004 12:31:22 PM PDT by ICX (PANTIES ON HEADS!!! THE OUTRAGE!!!)
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Shouldn't matter but at least the gun dealer made sure to be within the letter of the law.


3 posted on 06/16/2004 12:31:57 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: ICX

Nope.
Law prohibits them from looking at criminals.


4 posted on 06/16/2004 12:32:37 PM PDT by Darksheare (Can't wait for the day when all my voices are reduced to the space of one.)
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To: wmichgrad; *bang_list

You don't even have to be a lawyer, let alone a DA or a Court of Appeals judge, to know that this guy broke no laws. As much as I hate lawsuits, this guy should be suing for malicious (political) prosecution.


5 posted on 06/16/2004 12:35:05 PM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: wmichgrad

On the form the cops probably put they were buying it for themselves. If they then gave it to the minor then the cops broke the law. Since most cops are above the law, nobody was charged. Wow talk about justice.


6 posted on 06/16/2004 12:38:09 PM PDT by hoosierboy
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I don't think this was much different than what I did once if the article says what I think it does except I was past any age barrier.

I got a gun for Christmas. My mom bought it. I was there and went through the background check since it was for me.

7 posted on 06/16/2004 12:39:18 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: Darksheare

Going after real criminals requires competent investigation. These stings mean the police cultivate they own facts and evidence. Must less competency threshold.

Sadly, intelligence is not a requirement for law enforcement.


8 posted on 06/16/2004 12:40:20 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Never mind. Re-read it. This sounds like entrapment.

The cops broke the law. The dealer sold it to the cop. The dealer even sounds like he said no at first if it was for the 18 year old.

9 posted on 06/16/2004 12:40:51 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: longtermmemmory

This is true.

Unfortunately.


10 posted on 06/16/2004 12:42:20 PM PDT by Darksheare (Can't wait for the day when all my voices are reduced to the space of one.)
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No laws were broken.
Sounds like good news from the courts.
I hope it sets some precedent.


11 posted on 06/16/2004 12:45:11 PM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: Dan from Michigan
This sounds like entrapment.

It's not entrapment. It's a failed attempt at entrapment. For entrapment to exist the defendant must actually commit a crime. Here, the police couldn't even get him to commit a crime, but still charged him.

12 posted on 06/16/2004 12:47:28 PM PDT by CharacterCounts
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To: ICX
Don't Michigan cops have more important things to do than set up bogus sting operations on law-abiding citizens?

To some members of the "law enforcement" community, there is nothing more important. Not ferreting out terrorists, not apprehending murderers or rapists. Nothing is more important than getting guns "off the street", especially those in *your* gun cabinet or safe.

13 posted on 06/16/2004 12:55:45 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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Similar situation happened to me. I tried to buy a gun from a dealer at a gun show, and he wouldn't sell it to me because the address on my check didn't match the address on my license (I had recently moved, but hadn't changed my checks yet). My father tried to buy the gun, and the dealer said, "No, cause your buying it for him and that's illegal."


14 posted on 06/16/2004 12:56:21 PM PDT by vt_crosscut
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I admire this guy for going to trial.

Most innocent people accept a plea bargain rather than put themselves through the expense and stress of defending themselves in court, which is exactly what lazy cops count on.


15 posted on 06/16/2004 12:57:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: hoosierboy
If they then gave it to the minor then the cops broke the law. Since most cops are above the law, nobody was charged. Wow talk about justice.

The article makes clear that a private transfer to this individual is not illegal.

The court ruled that longtime Detroit gun dealer General Laney didn't violate federal or state statutes that allow licensed 18-year-olds to buy or receive a pistol from a private party, but prohibits them from purchasing a gun from a federally licensed gun dealer.

16 posted on 06/16/2004 12:58:10 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: wmichgrad

Confriming my notion that there isn't enough "real" crime around to justify the budgets we have.

Cut the budgets, and stop fleecing the tax payers.


17 posted on 06/16/2004 1:02:05 PM PDT by RISU
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Most innocent people accept a plea bargain rather than put themselves through the expense and stress of defending themselves in court, which is exactly what lazy cops count on.

This guy had little choice, almost any charge that could have been plead to would have resulted in the loss of his FFL. He'd be out of business. Certainly worth going to trial over.

18 posted on 06/16/2004 1:02:12 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Darksheare
Nope. Law prohibits them from looking at criminals.

So that's why there are no mirrors in Michigan police stations.

19 posted on 06/16/2004 1:07:57 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Dan from Michigan
I got a gun for Christmas. My mom bought it. I was there and went through the background check since it was for me.

Sarah Brady has admitted doing as much in her memoirs.

20 posted on 06/16/2004 1:12:05 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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