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Moore interviewed Berg for "Fahrenheit" [index to thread at reply #1859]
Salon.com ^ | May 27, 2004 | Rebecca Traister

Posted on 05/27/2004 9:26:51 PM PDT by Rennes Templar

May 27, 2004 | Filmmaker Michael Moore filmed an interview with American Nicholas Berg in the course of producing his documentary film "Fahrenheit 9/11" before Berg left for Iraq, where he was taken hostage and killed, Moore confirmed to Salon in a statement Thursday. The 20 minutes of footage does not appear in the final version of "Fahrenheit 911," according to the statement.

Word of the footage reached Salon through a source unaffiliated with Moore or his film "Fahrenheit 9/11," which is reported to feature stark images of U.S. civilians and soldiers grappling with conditions in war-torn Iraq, as well as examining the relationship between President George W. Bush and the bin Laden family. It received the Palme d'Or, the Cannes Film Festival's highest honor, on Saturday.

In a statement widely circulated by Moore's people after an initial request for comment by Salon, Moore said, "We have an interview with Nick Berg. It was approximately 20 minutes long. We are not releasing it to the media. It is not in the film. We are dealing privately with the family." Moore's camp declined to comment further on any aspect of the interview. Because the footage is not in the film, a spokeswoman for Miramax Films, the production company behind "Fahrenheit 9/11," said the company had no comment.

It was not clear from Moore's statement whether footage from the interview with Berg had ever been included in early cuts of "Fahrenheit 9/11." Reports about a film industry controversy surrounding distribution of the film first hit the news on May 5, a week before Berg's death. The film officially screened for the public and the press for the first time during the Cannes festival on May 17.

The news that Moore spoke to Berg while he was still in the United States only adds to the mystery surrounding the young man's presence in Iraq and tragic death. The interview was shot before the 26-year-old Berg left for Iraq late last year as a private contractor in the hopes of helping to rebuild the ravaged country. Though it was unclear what Berg spoke about in his interview with Moore, or how the two men met, unrelated reports following his death indicate that he headed for the Middle East with plans to work to improve the country's technological infrastructure and communication abilities. He ran his own company, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, in a suburb of Philadelphia.

Berg did not find employment in Iraq, and when he attempted to return to the United States he was detained by Iraqi police and questioned by American forces. He was released after his family complained. But shortly after, he is believed to have been kidnapped by Islamic terrorists. Video of his beheading was released on an Islamist Web site on May 11. Salon was unable to reach the Berg family for comment before publication.

Moore's film chronicles the United States' military, political and business involvement in the Middle East in the years before and after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. His previous politically charged films, including "Roger & Me" and "Bowling for Columbine," have created controversy and won him praise (including an Oscar, for "Columbine"). "Fahrenheit 9/11" has already sparked a media storm; in early May, Miramax's parent company, Disney, announced that it would not allow Miramax to distribute the film, which is highly critical of Bush and his administration.

Miramax has yet to make a deal with a distributor, though the film's warm reception at Cannes and the publicity surrounding the film have made it a hot property that is generating a lot of interest in Hollywood. "Bowling for Columbine" grossed $21 million, making it the highest-grossing non-IMAX documentary of all time.

A source close to "Fahrenheit 9/11" said that a new distributor will be announced shortly, and that the film is expected to be released in theaters during the first week of July, as originally planned.


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To: calcowgirl
So.... what does all this have to do with Michael Moore? Well... I would surmise (I hate to surmise.. I like to PROVE, lol) that Nick may have been a tool for some of the same people who use Michael Moore

Agreed. I find Moore a detestable human being but I'm not convinced that someone didn't contact him who offered to provide the resources on the ground in Iraq. Moore is propaganda vehicle with an established niche in the US, a perfect fool if you ask me.

1,841 posted on 06/03/2004 2:48:45 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Nita Nupress

"And what was the story about the 'silver wires' found on the towers in Iraq" ....you asked.

It's early am in Australia. Just got up. I have the FR Routine now; coffee and check My Comments!

I drove myself nuts looking for the silver wire 'story' and found nothing. Thinking back, I may have read it in the comments section in another forum on a site, perhaps FrontPage Magazine? Am still looking.

What I believe I recall reading, was a comment along the lines, "all they found, when the tower near the prison was checked, was a bunch of silver wires".


1,842 posted on 06/03/2004 3:03:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks

I remeber that statement about the silver wires at the prison also!! It was quite a weird statement.


1,843 posted on 06/03/2004 3:40:44 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: FL_engineer

The last sentence of your brilliant deductions leaped out at me. "An April 10 sighting by Hugo Infante...and that makes HIM the last associate to see him!" ..you wrote.

Hugo Infante gets a mention in #1216. I find the fact that Hugo was a photographer most fascinating - what a trio! Mr Aziz and his criminal background and Iraqi connections, Berg's idealogical 'bent' and a professional photographer all meet in Iraq...Presto! Prison 'abuse' photographs/video follow.
Hugo was in the business of SELLING photographs.
Aziz I think has been proven to sell ANYTHING - even drugs.
Berg, by referring to the prisoners as POLITICAL, confirms his radical stance.

"He (Nick) described the conditions for other prisoners and their treatment, depending sometimes on nationality. The others, he wrote, were behind closed cell doors and had no time outdoors. Some prisoners, considered political or suspected was criminals from India, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran 'had been in custody for 40 days without a single interpreter interrogation, just waiting as they still do today, and the Iraqi guards treat these poor fellows - especially the Hindis among them - as real dogs."

He is talking about jihadi's who have come from all over the muslim world with the express purpose of killing American soldiers. (Poor fellows?)

We are looking for a connection between Berg and Moore. Could its name be Hugo Infante?


1,844 posted on 06/03/2004 4:32:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks
We are looking for a connection between Berg and Moore. Could its name be Hugo Infante?

Hmmm... I hope you're onto something to shed light on Michael 'Oxygen Thief' Moore if he had ANYTHING to do with Nick Berg being MURDERED!

1,845 posted on 06/03/2004 4:37:58 PM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Ann Archy

You remember the statement about the silver wires, also?
Yes, it was weird. I just hope it wasn't MY original statement on this thread that you remember!
Confirmation from you, that you read this elsewhere would be very comforting to me as I am beginning to feel very frustrated at not being able to find the original source. Have you ANY idea where you came across it? How long ago?


1,846 posted on 06/03/2004 4:38:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks

I've been going thru a ton of replies....I think it was in a link on one of those replies.


1,847 posted on 06/03/2004 5:05:50 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Where is your ORIGINAL??? Maybe that IS it.


1,848 posted on 06/03/2004 5:07:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Nita Nupress

I THINK the "silver wire" was in one of Nick's E-Mails to someone! Who hasa copy of all the e-mails?


1,849 posted on 06/03/2004 5:18:28 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Here's the index for this thread for the e-mails. That's what I'm working on now.

NB's e-mails:

821 posted on 05/28/2004 4:10:51 PM CDT by Howlin (full-text of Berg family's email re: how Nick is missing)

570 posted on 05/28/2004 11:33:52 AM CDT by scott7278

1,152 posted on 05/29/2004 1:24:37 AM CDT by Howlin (26 Dec 2003 email)

1,213 posted on 05/29/2004 3:12:27 AM CDT by garandgal (info on "Man is more than fire tamed" phrase)

1,221 posted on 05/29/2004 6:18:34 AM CDT by Miss Marple (analysis of email posted at 1152)

1,260 posted on 05/29/2004 9:25:13 AM CDT by RonDog (links to emails)

1,850 posted on 06/03/2004 5:34:05 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ann Archy

There's a good cut-n-pasted reply with some (or all) of Berg's emails somewhere between this reply and #1501, which is how far I've gotten thus far.


1,851 posted on 06/03/2004 5:36:25 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress
I wanted to document this before it disappears. It was originally found by Objective Reality in reply #1517.

SOURCE:  http://www.cjr.org/issues/2003/5/qa-kelliher.asp, Columbia Journalism Review, Sept/Oct 2003

 

Q&A
Pete Tridish of the Prometheus Radio Project

BY

Pete Tridish first became involved in radio as a pirate broadcaster in 1996. He is now the technical director of the Prometheus Radio Project, a nonprofit organization providing legal, technical, and organizational support to low-power FM stations (see "Low Power, High Intensity" in the September/October 2003 issue). Prometheus has played a significant role in the struggle by community groups to establish low-power radio stations — a struggle that has involved the FCC, the National Association of Broadcasters, and National Public Radio. It has also been influential in the fight against media consolidation. A recent ruling in its suit, Prometheus Radio Project v. Federal Communications Commission, has prevented the FCC from enacting new rules that would ease long-standing media ownership limits. Prometheus operates with a staff of three out of a church basement in Philadelphia. Their work has been recognized by the Ford Foundation, the List Foundation, the Open Society Institute, and the MacArthur Foundation. Tridish spoke with Laurie Kelliher, a CJR assistant editor.

Laurie Kelliher: Did you expect your suit would be successful?

Pete Tridish: A lot of people described it as a long shot, but I thought that the arguments made sense. The FCC initiated large changes and I don't really see what their hurry was. That was the attitude of the judges too. They considered what harm would come to media companies as a result of this stay and all their lawyer could come up with is, "You know, the opportunities to buy-up radio stations don't come along every day." Our intention was to get a stay and to get the issues re-examined. We wouldn't have done it if we didn't think it had a reasonable chance of success.

Do you expect this issue will ultimately be resolved by Congress or will the fight continue in the court system?

I can easily see this continuing in many different venues. There's a perpetual tension between the groups that want to keep a diverse media ownership and the owners of media who see certain efficiencies--like consolidating. So, no matter what the outcome of the next month or two or three, the issue is going to continue. What the media companies tried to do was try to consolidate all these proceedings and make a very big change all at once. In some ways it was an act of hubris---they had everything lined-up to make a huge number of changes and as a result they stumbled upon an unusual level of public vigilance.

Prometheus is a very small organization that took on both the FCC and the American corporate media. Do you see this case as a Davey and Goliath story?

If there weren't a giant movement around the media ownership issue, we never would have gotten this decision. Several times the judges mentioned the comments made by average citizens and I think that really made a big impression on them---that millions of people took the time to comment on this. And that's how it usually works. When people shed a little bit of their cynicism about the process and focus their energy on an issue, things that seemed couldn't actually happen, happen. And it reaches the people who are decision-makers.

You got your start in radio as a pirate broadcaster.

That was in 1996. I was working with activists in various movements and we all thought that our voices had been marginalized in the campaigns we were working on. I had been involved ever since high school in campaigns, from the nuclear freeze to the anti-apartheid movement, and had always found that the stumbling block to getting exposure for our issues had to do with corporate control of the media. We felt that to make a difference in the way people thought about these issues we'd have to try to change the way the airwaves are regulated.

We started by getting a transmitter kit. None of us had been on the radio and none of us knew much about radio. For about seven or eight months, we tried to build a transmitter and finally, after blowing it up a couple times, got it going early in 1997. Within a few months we had about sixty programmers coming from all different sorts of movements and all different walks of life. We were really excited about those programs because they were like nothing we had ever heard before on the radio.

Is that when you took the name Pete Tridish [pronounced "petri dish"]?

We all took fake names because we were trying to hide our identities - we didn't want to make it so easy to get hit with a $10,000 fine. My girlfriend at the time was Millie Watt. There was Anne Tennah, and Noah Vale. The one I really liked was Bertha Venus. These sorts of names were common among pirates and I've kept the name ever since.

You called your station Radio Mutiny. How long was it on the air?

It operated for about nine months before the FCC served us a warning to shut down. Then we came up with a great plan, which was to go on the air and challenge the FCC to arrest us in public in front of Benjamin Franklin's printing press in downtown Philadelphia. We made a giant banner that said "1763, Benjamin Franklin challenges the Stamp Act and refuses to pay taxes to King George. 1996, Radio Mutiny defies the FCC for Freedom of Speech."

(The FCC made no public arrests that day, but nine months later it confiscated Radio Mutiny's transmitter and the station went off the air for good. At the same time, the FCC began to reconsider its position on community radio.)

What made you decide to start the Prometheus Radio Project?

I thought it would be best for me to form a nonprofit organization that would take the FCC at its word - that they really did care about community radio - and try to get them to pass a proposal that would actually be good for community broadcasters around the country.

What kind of reaction did you get from other pirate broadcasters?

There was a long period of time when many of them called me a sell-out for working closely with the FCC. I'm sure a lot of them still do.

Were you surprised when the FCC began issuing low-power FM licenses?

I was very suspicious at first and I think many pirates have remained suspicious - and they have been right because really low-power FM has done nothing for the big cities. To this day Philadelphia, where I come from, doesn't have a low-power radio station. It's kind of ironic that I haven't been able to bring to Philadelphia the dreams and successes we had as pirates back in 1998.

Why do you think the FCC initiated low-power FM?

I really do feel to this day that we had the FCC on the run in terms of the legality of the rules. The FCC has the authority to regulate the airwaves. That's clear. However, it is supposed to regulate the airwaves to prevent signal interference in a manner that's least restrictive to freedom of speech. I think it's absolutely clear to anyone who looks at a world where Clear Channel owns 1,200 radio stations nationwide - and where community broadcasters don't have access to the airwaves with even a single station in most places - that the FCC is not using the least restrictive means available to them. I think the FCC put together low-power FM as a patch to its rules so it could maintain authority over the airwaves because, frankly, it had badly misallocated the airwaves in the past.

Have low-power FM licenses had a significant effect on community radio?

We have gained a lot in the places where it works, and the stations that exist are a testament to how good the idea is. But in the places where it hasn't worked - which is really most places - it continues to have failed in remission.

One of the interesting things about low-power FM is that it got support from grass roots organizations on both the political right and the left.

I think we managed to show the FCC that support for this came from all different sides of society. This was not just a campaign from a single special interest group. And while I have my own political beliefs and opinions, I have always felt that one of the big problems in American society is control of the media by corporate owners. I think there are many more things we can do with media as long as it's truly an expression of the things the people in a given community care about. Ultimately a society where citizens are better informed and more in touch with each other will promote the social values I hold important - more so than a society where the media is mostly just a plug-in drug that dis-empowers and takes the impetus out of local communities.

What can a low-power FM station achieve that an NPR station can't?

It's important to understand that NPR is a content provider. They don't actually own any radio stations. Affiliates are local stations that choose to take NPR's programming because it's very successful financially. I think that NPR does a great, great service to the American dialogue in general. They have the capacity to do all sorts of things that community radio can't do. Community radio doesn't have a person in Baghdad - well, actually we do, but NPR can do things that we just can't do. But I also think there are a lot of things that NPR can't do because there is a certain logic to an organization of that size. NPR needs to consider if a program is drawing enough pledges to support itself. That kind of logic is the opposite of why people started community radio in the first place.

What can a low-power FM station accomplish in a community that commercial radio isn't accomplishing?

Community radio believes that part of its mission is to broaden and deepen the listening experience of its audience. If you ask teenagers on the street what kind of music they want they will probably say Britney Spears. But they want to hear Britney Spears because that's what they've heard. That doesn't mean they wouldn't appreciate music from Kenya. It's really a question of what people are exposed to and what their options are. It really is very important for there to be place on the dial that in some ways is less successful, that presents programs that are not going to be as popular - but is a place where you can go when your ear grows past the bubble-pop of our culture. I think those are sort of the green spaces - the common public spaces - that we need to be thinking about as a culture. They have an effect that goes beyond the audience numbers.

How did you feel when the FCC released the results of the Mitre Study in July?

The Mitre study really vindicated our position. It made it clear that the interference concerns that were being raised were really very minimal. One of our greatest problems in this whole campaign has been that the NAB and NPR tried to set it up so that there would be a different standard for us than for them. Their stations all cause some interference. Every time you pick up a cordless phone you are causing interference. Every time you start your car ignition it causes interference to the radio band - so it's a very confusing technical issue. But they were claiming that low-power FM would cause an "ocean of interference." Now, an independent source has found that this didn't happen. They had an 800-number near the test sites. Nobody ever called to complain about interference from an LP-FM. Nobody ever identified a case of LP-FM induced interference at more than 333 meters from the site of the test transmitter. LP-FM advocates had always agreed to solve any interference problems around their transmitter at their own expense - and that's the same standard there is for full-power stations. When it comes down to it, they just set up this straw man about interference and they did it to hide their real concerns about competition.

Do you think the Mitre Study will pave the way for more LP-FM stations?

The results of the study were great for us. In terms of whether it can help us win, we have to see what's going to happen in Congress. I really hope that NPR comes to its senses on this issue. I think they really ought to know better. They have a strong product. People are going to continue to love NPR even if there is a low-power FM station in their community. We think that more and more people are leaving the medium of radio because there is nothing they respect on the dial and that's not good for NPR either.

Are you confident that Congress will rule favorably for more LP-FMs?

What politicians do is definitely outside of my area of understanding or expertise. A few very powerful people can influence how the whole Congress goes. Considering that Congress has recently come to understand these issues in way they haven't before is very exciting. But will the political system churn out a good outcome for community radio? I have no idea. I'm certainly hopeful. It' s my job to be hopeful and to convince people that it's worth their taking the time and effort to participate in the political process.

1,852 posted on 06/03/2004 6:07:08 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Ann Archy; Nita Nupress

I mentioned 'silver wires' several times. #966. #1094. #1126 for example. I was hoping someone else might have come across this elsewhere, not on this thread. I can not find the source. (The source that said; 'when the tower Berg had climbed near the prison was inspected, all that was found was a bunch of silver wires') From memory...
I have been looking for the source ever since. Why? Because 'silver wire' is used, I believe, as a conducting medium ( transmission?) but not being an electrical engineer, all I have is a suspicion that 'something' could be sent from the tower without leaving a trace.


1,853 posted on 06/03/2004 6:17:35 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Ann Archy; Nita Nupress

'And though his family in West Chester Pa., has said that he was struggling to find work...he was pocketing lots of cash in a country where taking risks...

'As an independant telecommunications contractor, Berg was in a field of business that after 35 years of isolation under Saddam Hussein, is just beginning to take root. He shimmied radio, television and cell phone towers, installing data communications systems and cell phone transmitters...

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/mld/ledgerenquirer/news/world/8653148.htm

INSTALLING DATA COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEMS AND CELL PHONE TRANSMITTERS.

Berg is known to have climbed two towers near the prison. Would 'someone' not have inspected the same towers in an attempt to ascertain just what the heck he was actually doing up there? Conjecture; All 'they' found was a bunch of silver wires...

I'm still looking for the source...help!


1,854 posted on 06/03/2004 7:48:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks; Nita Nupress

I KNOW the "silver wire" was mentioned in his OWN words. That is why I'm SURE it's in his e-mails....someplace!! I still think it's in a link!!!


1,855 posted on 06/03/2004 8:51:41 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

OK, let's keep on looking...but I'm beginning to think...even if we find the original, be it an external source or from Nick's own words, what does that prove?

Haven't we already established that Nick climbed either one or two towers near the prison? He says so himself. And, in my last post, there's that comment about installing 'data and communications facilities' when he 'shimmied' up radio, television and cell phone towers.

I'll go back to my beginning. Why did I find the 'silver wire' comment so interesting? Because I wanted to know if it was possible Berg was SENDING/TRANSMITTING from the tower...hey, doesn't anyone here know if 'silver wires' would make transmission possible? Calling all Electrical Engineers!

I fear this might be a dead end. Even if we were able to PROVE transmissions took place, we could never ascertain the content nor to whom, could we?


1,856 posted on 06/03/2004 9:28:48 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks
Because I wanted to know if it was possible Berg was SENDING/TRANSMITTING from the tower...hey, doesn't anyone here know if 'silver wires' would make transmission possible?

I don't know but looking at nickberg.org and his inventions it seems he had an aptitude for such things. In High School he developed some kind of device that scrambled communications/broadcasts within localized areas and also some kind of motion detectors. (Apologies if this is repetitive, there is so much information here and so much that I have read elsewhere that it is hard to keep track.)

1,857 posted on 06/03/2004 10:04:47 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Dolphy

Yes, I agree Berg certainly was capable! Guess it's time for all you folks in the US to go to bed...I'll catch up with everyone with my morning coffee...goodnight from Australia.


1,858 posted on 06/03/2004 10:46:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MICHAEL MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT)
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To: Fred Nerks; Dolphy; calcowgirl; Howlin; Ann Archy; GOP_1900AD; Rennes Templar; FL_engineer; ...
This is an index of the research done thus far on this thread. Its purpose was so I could navigate back to key points more easily and not have to save every little tidbit of research on my hard drive.  Just remember it's not meant to contain all the facts; it's an index to the contents of this particular thread. Nothing more, nothing less.

The links are primarily from this thread but also included are links to external sources (e.g., Michael Moore's website, other forums talking about Nick Berg, etc.). Not all links have been copied and pasted to this thread, so if you really want to save something, you better hurry before it disappears. In most cases, I summarized the topic of the link in parentheses to give the reader a clue on where the link will take him.  Hopefully this will let you avoid unnecessary trips to data you already know.

This is a rush-job and is not meant to be exhaustive.  I tried to limit the index to replies that contain facts and not speculative opinion; however, some replies contain both.  If the facts were important, I included the reply anyway. Inevitably, you will find things I've overlooked or find replies that should have been included.  Feel free to make suggestions or even improve this and repost your own version. :-)

There are many things below that are jumbled in my mind (e.g., the missing aunt & uncle in Iraq), so it would help if people would contribute concise summaries about the main concepts they understand. And if anyone has the time, these summaries can be included in any later, updated versions. (Note: I will not be doing this as I'm already getting busy with other things & don't have time.)

Links containing **pivotal discoveries** or other important data are highlighted to facilitate easy navigation.  The names that are associated with those highlighted links are in red font.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1133927/posts (Backhoe's thread.  THE definitive place to find FR threads on this subject.)


Summaries

278 posted on 05/28/2004 by FL_engineer (Michael Moore)

279 posted on 05/28/2004 by roughrider (Aziz K. Aziz)

Timelines

771 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin

782 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin (summarizes article linked in #763)

783 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin (correction to earlier timeline?)

932 posted on 05/28/2004 by nunya bidness (original source http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread49809/pg1)

939 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin

1,653 posted on 06/01/2004 by Dolphy (NB's travels in Iraq)

1,716 posted on 06/01/2004 by nunya bidness (updated NB Timeline - scroll to top of reply)


PEOPLE

Aziz Kadoory Aziz -- Nick Berg's "business partner" in Iraq. 
a.k.a. Aziz K. Aziz; Kadoory; Aziz Kadorry; Kadoory Aziz; Kadoury Aziz Aziz; Joe Aziz; Aziz Al-Taee; Aziz Altaee; Aziz Taee; Aziz Al-Taie; and Aziz Taie

820 posted on 05/28/2004 by MizSterious (article - 5/17/04,  Philadelphia Daily News - "Berg Met With Shady Iraqi")

875 posted on 05/28/2004 countess (contains link to Patriots Rally in D.C where Aziz spoke)

892 posted on 05/28/2004 by Trinity_Tx (info re: Glenn Beck show appearance)

942 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress (article - 5/19/93, PR Newswire, "Crack Vial Distributors Charged in Drug Conspiracy")

**1,360 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (Contains biographical & corporation info on Aziz, who once ran a website called Tridish.com.) 

1,567 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (how NB met Aziz)

1,440 posted on 05/29/2004 by FL_engineer  (Aziz had access to NB's cell phone records)

1,575 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (More documentation on how NB met Aziz -- at the Arlington, VA conference last December or in Baghdad?)

1,606 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (Snapple's first-hand account of American Iraqi Council)

1,624 posted on 05/31/2004 by Fred Nerks (the last person to talk to NB?)

1,796 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl (links to research on Aziz)

1,811 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl (Court records for distributing cocaine for Jabar Pierre Bouayad and Aziz Kadoory Aziz)

1,815 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl (prison records for "Kadoury Aziz Aziz")

1,825 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl  (article about "Aziz Al-Taee's cousin" who was "cut into little pieces")

1,834 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl (Aziz analysis)


Amina Bouayad Aziz -- Aziz's wife - aka Amina Bouayad & Amina Aziz

1,485 posted on 05/30/2004 by Nita Nupress  (Property transfer records; 3/8/03 article on an "Amina Aiz" in Iraq)

1,811 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl (Court records for distributing cocaine for Jabar Pierre Bouayad and Aziz Kadoory Aziz)

1,812 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl  ("Rochelle A. Bouayad" [possible "Amina" hit] and ""JOHN P MOSCONY INC PHILADELPHIA PA"

1,814 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl  (prison records for Jabar Pierre Bouayad)

1,822 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl (PA business records for PIERRE BOYAYAD and AMINA BOYAYAD)


Nick Berg's (NB) e-mails

821 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin (Berg family's email re: how Nick is missing)

570 posted on 05/28/2004 by scott7278

1,152 posted on 05/29/2004 by Howlin (26 Dec 2003 email)

1,213 posted on 05/29/2004 by garandgal (info on "Man is more than fire tamed" phrase)

1,221 posted on 05/29/2004 by Miss Marple (analysis of email posted at 1152)

1,260 posted on 05/29/2004 by RonDog (links to emails)

1,607 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl  (email from Berg with detailed info about the towers at Abu Ghraib -- not on nickberg.org website)

1,626 posted on 05/31/2004 by Dolphy (analysis of email posted in 1607 above)

 1,647 posted on 05/31/2004 by FL_engineer (addresses the "Yassin's" that NB mentions in his Jan 4 2004 email)

1,716 posted on 06/01/2004 by nunya bidness (full text - NB's emails from 25 Jul 2002, 29 Nov 2002, 7 Mar 2003, 23 Mar 2003, 5 April 2003, 26 Dec 2003, 04 Jan 2004, and January 18 2004)

Nick Berg & Al-Qaeda in Ghana/Uganda circa 1998

1,016 posted on 05/28/2004 by Hildy

1,022 posted on 05/28/2004 by A Citizen Reporter

1,043 posted on 05/28/2004 by Hildy (article - AllAfrica.com)

1,045 posted on 05/28/2004 by countess (link to MSNBC article re: our military in Africa)

1,129 posted on 05/28/2004 by cookcounty (S.I.T., the school NB was associated with in Uganda)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1142292/posts?page=4#4 (info on who funded NB's trip to Kenya)

1,273 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl  (info on American Jewish World Service, which funded his Kenya trip)

1,436 posted on 05/29/2004 by FL_engineer (contains map of Uganda & Kenya)


Philip J. Berg
(Philadelphia lawyer; possible Berg relative?)

1,770 posted on 06/02/2004 by a noble vision

1,785 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl

1,785 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl

1,794 posted on 06/02/2004 by a noble vision (Philip Berg's lawsuit)


Andrew Robert Duke
- one of the last people to see NB alive in Baghdad.  NB's drinking buddy.
aka Andrew R. Duke, Andrew Duke, Andy Duke

347 posted on 05/28/2004 by ravingnutter (refers to NB's alleged $70K income; link to guardian.co.uk article)

1,515 posted on 05/30/2004 by Fred Nerks (a newspaper quote from Duke)

1,618 posted on 05/31/2004 by Nita Nupress (misc. info)


Scott Hollinger
- friend of NB. The only other person besides Michael Berg who said NB was a Bush/war supporter.

337 posted on 05/28/2004 by woofie


Hugo Infante

** 1,216 posted on 05/29/2004 by FL_engineer (timeline comparison of Hugo Infante & NB travels.  Correction to this post at 1,222)

1,437 posted on 05/29/2004 by FL_engineer

1,818 posted on 06/03/2004 by FL_engineer

1,844 posted on 06/03/2004 by Fred Nerks (portrayal of Hugo, the photographer & how he fits in the picture)


Ahmad Kuba
- on Board of Directors of the Iraqi American Council with Aziz.  He's a.k.a. Ahmed Kubba and perhaps Sam Kubba.

1,403 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (article, 3/21/03, Asia Africa Intelligence Wire - shows connection between Kuba & Aziz)

1,481 posted on 05/30/2004 by calcowgirl (article on "Rebuilding Iraq" conference: 12/5/03, NYTimes. -- Ahmad Kuba same person as Sam Kuba?)

1,569 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (Ahmad Kuba and Sam Kuba info)


Mudafer / Al-Mudafer
/ Muzaffar / Al-Muzaffar / Yassin / Yasin
- those elusive relatives in Iraq!  I'm still confused on this and would appreciate it if someone would summarize what we've found thus far.  Until then, here is a summary by calcowgirl that I lifted from the thread:  "Nick's email used the name Mudafer in reference to his uncle's family. News reports used the name al-Muzfar with respect to same. I suggested that possibly it was the same as Al-Muzaffar. Nita posted validation that the press has used the name Al-Mudafer synonymously with Al-Muzaffar."

** 1,647 posted on 05/31/2004 by FL_engineer (various info about the various "Yassins."  A summary of this reply as it relates to family ties is at 1,661)

** 1,717 posted on 06/01/2004 by calcowgirl (early news report about a "Mustafa al-Muzfar" residing in Mosul)

1,732 posted on 06/02/2004 by FL_engineer (explanation of how Iraqis use tribal names)

1,746 posted on 06/02/2004 by christie (more comparison of Mustafa/Muzfar, etc. names)

1,752 posted on 06/02/2004 by FL_engineer (ditto)

1,817 posted on 06/03/2004 by FL_engineer (the uncle lives near Baghdad, not Mosul)

1,791 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl (Mudafer vs. Al-Muzaffar info)

** 1,797 posted on 06/02/2004 by Nita Nupress  ("Sami al-Muzaffar" = "Sami Mahdi Al-Mudafer".  They are likely the same person according to this 5/18/03 LATimes article)

1,804 posted on 06/02/2004 by calcowgirl (list of "Muzaffar"s in Pennsylvania)

1,824 posted on 06/03/2004 by Nita Nupress  (4/11/03; Newcastle Herald article on Mustafa Al-Mudafer, a Maitland-based Iraqi who grew up in Basra, owns a kebab shop, and is an English-educated chemical engineer who lived in Australia when the article was written.  One of the "bullet" articles.)

1,825 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl (The other "bullet" article)

1,828 posted on 06/03/2004 by FL_engineer (more analysis)

1,834 posted on 06/03/2004 by calcowgirl (more analysis)


Pete Tridish
(see "Prometheus Radio Project")

Dylan Wyrnn (see "Prometheus Radio Project")


ORGANIZATIONS

Prometheus Methods Tower Services, Inc. -- Nick Berg's company. Incorporated by sister (Sara) in Virgina.

1,544 posted on 05/30/2004 by Rennes Templar (Explanation of what the word "Prometheus" means)

1,023 posted on 05/28/2004 by Trinity_Tx

1,160 posted on 05/29/2004 by Trinity_Tx

1,252 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (link to ANSWER petition info)

1,274 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (Incorporation records)

1,466 posted on 05/30/2004 by Dolphy (Berg at the "Rebuilding Iraq" conference)

1,707 posted on 06/01/2004 by calcowgirl (explanation of possible link between Prometheus Tower, Aziz, and Prometheus Radio)

Prometheus Radio Project / Pete Tridish (aka Dylan Wrynn) - Left-wing activist company in Philadelphia run by 4 people: Pete Tridish, Bruce Hall, Marissa Johnson, and Hannah Sassaman (www.prometheusradio.org). 
-From their website: The Prometheus Radio Project is an activist organization that fights for more democratic ownership and regulation of media. Prometheus advocates for community organizations that want to start radio stations, and has helped build the first radio stations owned by civil rights and environmental organizations in the United States.

-Funded by Soros, Ford Foundation & other leftist funding sources.

-From their website: "In the spirit of neighbors pulling together to put up a new building, Prometheus gathers low power radio applicants, journalists, radio engineers, students, lawyers, musicians, activists and folks from across the country to raise the antenna mast, build the studio... and flip on the station switch!"

1,082 posted on 05/28/2004 by livius (a "Carol Berg" on their Board of Directors?)

1,092 posted on 05/28/2004 by Trinity_Tx (only source for that is the leftist site indymedia.org)

1,265 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (no info on them at IRS website)

1,283 posted on 05/29/2004 by livius (excerpt from Prometheus Radio website)

1,298 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (subsidiary of a registered non-profit?)

1,301 posted on 05/29/2004 by MizSterious (gets funding from Tides Foundation. There is also documentation of this on their website.)

1,838 posted on 06/03/2004 by Nita Nupress

1,465 posted on 05/30/2004 by Dolphy (example of them setting up a station to help farm workers organize)

**1,482 posted on 05/30/2004 by Nita Nupress  (3 articles)

1. 5/18/02 - "Taking to the Airwaves" - gives background and history of low-power FM radio;  Pete Tridish/Dylan Wrynn; and Tridish's Prometheus Radio Project. Mentions "positioning radio towers." A must-read if you want to understand the low-power radio movement.

2.  3/13/02 - "Activists' mission: Bringing radio power to the people" - Entire article is about Pete Tridish & his Prometheus Radio Project.  Mentions "prisons" and "Incarceration Nation," a radio program on Pete Tridish's now-defunct "Radio Mutiny" station.  (Remember Nick Berg's reference to "a prison" in his email to "stockholders.")

3.  10/2000 - "Low-Power to the People" - More info & quotes from Pete Tridish, who gives Michael Moore as a good example to follow.  Explains how, like Nick Berg, TriDish also went to the 2000  Republican National Convention in his hometown of Philadelphia.  Mentions prison reform twice.  Exlains how Tridish "travels the nation" (similar to Nick Berg's lifestyle) to promote low-power radio and gives useful historical background on low-power FM radio and how the left uses it in an attempt to compete with Rush Limbaugh, et al.

1,505 posted on 05/30/2004 by Nita Nupress (explanation of a Prometheus Radio Project tour of the southern U.S. to "kick-off their campaign against the massive radio giant, Clear Channel Communications."  It culminated in a "Low-Power Radio Barn-Raising" in Louisiana.  We're still looking for information that would tie Nick Berg to any of these 20 southern cities on these particular dates. See also reply #1,535)

** 1,517 posted on 05/30/2004 by Objective Reality ((Sept/Oct 2003; Columbia Journalism Review, Q&A of Pete Tridish of the Prometheus Radio Project.  Pete Tridish's quote: "Community radio doesn't have a person in Baghdad - well, actually we do"...  The quote predates Michael Moore's similar statement; however, like Moore, it may demonstrate how far Tridish and other left-wing low-power radio activists will go to dig up dirt on Bush. See reply #1,852 for a full-text copy of the article.)

http://www.prometheusradio.org/barn_photos.shtml (photos of Pete Tridish)


Williams Mullen law firm / Sara L. Berg

1,696 posted on 06/01/2004 by GOP_1900AD ("Mullen et al's web site, they / their president may have had a role in that conference. I know they were involved in at least one major such conference. Also, I believe they are involved in some major clients who are doing work over there.")

1,335 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (info on Nick's sister, Sara L. Berg)

 

Russian mafia

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144849/posts?page=59#59 by Snapple

1,724 posted on 06/01/2004 by livius (Russian mafia in Philadelphia)

1,817 posted on 06/03/2004 by FL_engineer


Harris / Al-Fawares / Lebanon Broadcast Company consortium

1,607 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (Nick Berg's email)

1,626 posted on 05/31/2004 by Dolphy

1,634 posted on 05/31/2004by calcowgirl

 


MISCELLANEOUS

OKC connection

514 posted on 05/28/2004 by Iwo Jima

531 posted on 05/28/2004 by PhiKapMom (Her sentence, "Moussaoui not coming here until Feb 1991" should read "Feb 2001" instead.)

543 posted on 05/28/2004 by PhiKapMom

550 posted on 05/28/2004 by PhiKapMom

567 posted on 05/28/2004 by PhiKapMom

582 posted on 05/28/2004  by PhiKapMom

1,055 posted on 05/28/2004 by Trinity_Tx (Paraphrase: "Other e-mail accounts were stolen at OU while Berg was there, according to FBI...")

1,104 posted on 05/28/2004 by PhiKapMom (response to above reply refuting FBI/TrinityTx claim)

1,121 posted on 05/28/2004 by Trinity_Tx (response to 1104)

1,158 posted on 05/29/2004 by cyncooper (another response to #1055)

1,170 posted on 05/29/2004 1:49:04 AM CDT by Trinity_Tx (response to 1158)

1,131 posted on 05/28/2004 by ravingnutter

1,158 posted on 05/29/2004 by cyncooper (text & link to CNN article)

1,212 posted on 05/29/2004by cyncooper (text & link to WashPost article)

1,214 posted on 05/29/2004 by Trinity_Tx (text & link to another WashPost article)

1,336 posted on 05/29/2004 by PhiKapMom (1st-hand info on alleged OU "housing shortage")

1,345 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (Berg arrested for trespassing twice at OU)

1,350 posted on 05/29/2004 by ~Kim4VRWC's~ (Berg arrested for trespassing twice at OU)


The mysterious "silver wires" article we're all looking for!

1,050 posted on 05/28/2004 by Fred Nerks

1,126 posted on 05/28/2004 by Fred Nerks

1,555 posted on 05/31/2004 by Fred Nerks

1,842 posted on 06/03/2004 by Fred Nerks

1,853 posted on 06/03/2004 by Fred Nerks


Communication towers

1,083 posted on 05/28/2004by Nita Nupress

1,113 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress (5/17/94; Xinhua News Agency; "UNSCOM Monitoring System in Iraq"

1,241 posted on 05/29/2004 by madison10 (gives a link to misc. info on towers)

1,763 posted on 06/02/2004 by Dolphy (conversations with radio people)

 


MICHAEL MOORE

Text & links to other "Moore has a film clip" stories

596 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin

725 posted on 05/28/2004 by Miss Marple

745 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin

1,125 posted on 05/28/2004 by Dane

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1144406/posts

1,287 posted on 05/29/2004 by Howlin

1,288 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness

Michael Moore's websites

http://www.michaelmoore.com

http://www.dogeatdogfilms.com

http://www.theawfultruth.com

Website rantings (some of which have now been deleted)

60 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin

79 posted on 05/28/2004 by cyncooper

1,164 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("And Now a Chance to Bid Farewell to Mr. Bush")

1,166 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (pushing Moore's book)

1,171 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (garbage about Moore's book tour)

1,175 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("Turkeys on the Moon")

1,181 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("We Finally Got Our Frankenstein" - Saddam)

1,182 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("Letters the Troops Have Sent Me")

1,185 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (Wesley Clark)

1,188 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("Dean Supporters, Don't Give Up" - Iowa Caucus)

1,192 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("You Say Deserter, I Say More Dessert" - Nat'l. Guard)

1,194 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (Open letter to George Bush)

**1,197 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq...")

1,200 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (Cannes Film Festival)

1,201 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("Disney Has Blocked the Distribution of My New Film")

1,202 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (NY Times Editorial about Disney)

1,204 posted on 05/29/2004by nunya bidness ("When You Wish Upon A Star")

1,206 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness ("Fahrenheit 9/11 Wins Top Prize in Cannes" - last message prior to the release of the Nick Berg revelation)

1,517 posted on 05/30/2004 by Objective Reality (Objective Reality "pings" Moore's website. Had been taken down temporarily)

When did Moore get idea for making "Fahrenheit 9/11?"

1,161 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (This conversation is also found in surrounding replies near this one)

Actual content of "Fahrenheit 9/11"

948 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress

959 posted on 05/28/2004 by nunya bidness

961 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress

976 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress

984 posted on 05/28/2004 by nunya bidness

995 posted on 05/28/2004 by A Citizen Reporter

997 posted on 05/28/2004 by nunya bidness (woman whose son was killed in Iraq)

1,017 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress (woman whose son was killed in Iraq)

1,034 posted on 05/28/2004by Howlin (woman whose son was killed in Iraq)

1,029 posted on 05/28/2004by Howlin (woman whose son was killed in Iraq)

1,049 posted on 05/28/2004 by Nita Nupress (5/23/04; NYTimes; "Michael Moore's Candid Camera" -- says how Moore got his Iraq film coverage)

Moore/Eisner/Disney information

666 posted on 05/28/2004 by Grampa Dave

872 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin (Moore's words about having people working for him in Iraq)

896 posted on 05/28/2004 by Howlin (article - Yahoo News, 5/28/04, "Michael Moore Film Nears Release as Disney Sells")


OTHER LINKS ON THIS THREAD & ELSEWHERE

Early "NB is missing" media stories

763 posted on 05/28/2004 by A Citizen Reporter

766 posted on 05/28/2004 by ravingnutter


Nick Berg conspiracy/anti-conspiracy sites and other minutia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Berg_conspiracy_theories

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ ('What's-his-name.  I didn't check it out, but he's no doubt talking about it since he has a conspiracy for everything.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/~trinitytx/

http://www.mkkp.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=3 (Islam Internet Muslim Community Forum)

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com

http://www.weblog.ro/soj?day=20&month=05&year=2004& (synopsis of soj's site at 844 by nerdgirl)


Berg family lawsuit

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1143954/posts?page=19#19


Miscellaneous

1,258 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl  (Cornell University statement on Nick E. Berg)

1,306 posted on 05/29/2004 by Dolphy ("2nd Rebuilding Iraq Conference" in Arlington, VA that Berg attended)

1,325 posted on 05/29/2004 by nunya bidness (Linda Tripp was contact person for "3rd Rebuilding Iraq Conference" conference)

1,355 posted on 05/29/2004 by RonDog (more on the "2nd Rebuilding Iraq" conference in VA)

1,323 posted on 05/29/2004 by Iwo Jima (analysis of possible connection between Prometheus Tower & Prometheus Radio)

1,330 posted on 05/29/2004 by calcowgirl (info & link -- possible connections between Prometheus Tower & Prometheus Radio)

1,407 posted on 05/29/2004 by MizSterious (David Berg: "It's not like he was trying to help the Bush administration.")

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/iraq/2001930392_lastdays16.html (David Berg describes Nick as only one in Berg family who voted for Bush)

1,462 posted on 05/29/2004 by cyncooper (more on David Berg's contradictory statements)

1,478 posted on 05/30/2004 by calcowgirl (info about Michael Berg)

1,491 posted on 05/30/2004 by Nita Nupress (William E. Kennard - Chairman of FCC under Clinton)

1,584 posted on 05/31/2004 by Dolphy (links and info about clandestine radio, the airwaves in Iraq, and the Iraqi Media Network)

1,586 posted on 05/31/2004 by nunya bidness (article by Ira Simmons - "Nicolas Berg and the Continuing Search for Answers")

1,641 posted on 05/31/2004 by calcowgirl (reference to Nick Berg buying a car in Iraq, an unresolved issue)

1,701 posted on 06/01/2004 by Fred Nerks (explanation of the various forms of Islam in Iraq)

1,725 posted on 06/01/2004 by nunya bidness (info about alansar.net, the website that originally posted the NB  video)

1,818 posted on 06/03/2004 by FL_engineer ("prisoner abuse" references in NB's emails)



1,859 posted on 06/04/2004 2:28:37 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: All

Well, the yellow highlighting isn't showing for me, but I don't have any more time to mess with this. Just look for the red and/or bolded text.


1,860 posted on 06/04/2004 2:30:47 PM PDT by Nita Nupress
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