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'Take it like a man' (Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski)
Washington Times ^ | 5/21/04 | Jack Wheeler

Posted on 05/20/2004 10:55:05 PM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:15:26 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

We know conclusively that the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal is as phony as a Bill Clinton sex denial because there are no calls for the resignation of the one individual most responsible for the abuses.

That would be the officer in charge of Abu Ghraib and all U.S. military prisons in Iraq, the commander of the 800th Military Police Brigade, Army Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski. And why have there been no calls for her resignation? Let's be honest. It is because she is a woman.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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1 posted on 05/20/2004 10:55:05 PM PDT by kattracks
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2 posted on 05/20/2004 11:01:31 PM PDT by al baby (Hope I don't get into trouble for this)
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She? needs to go down for this but I would hate to see the video. Looks to be from the same school as janet reno.


3 posted on 05/20/2004 11:14:17 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: al baby

WOW!!!!!


4 posted on 05/20/2004 11:14:25 PM PDT by technomage
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To: kattracks
War is not woman's work. It is man's work -- not because men are more brutal or stronger, but because they can endure the stresses of combat and be accountable for the failures those stresses inevitably create. They don't whine, deviously evade, blame others, make up excuses and whimper, "It's not my fault!" If they do, they are despised and looked upon with contempt by their male comrades

Mr. Wheeler obviously has not had much experience with men in the real world.

I have run across plenty of men in the business world who will lie with a straight face and deny any responsibility for their actions and decisions.

Then there are those men who truly believe that they were right and the results of their poor decisions are someone else’s responsibility.

I agree that women do not belong in combat but for other than the reasons the author states. An unwillingness to accept responsibility as a consequence of power cuts through both sexes.

5 posted on 05/20/2004 11:19:03 PM PDT by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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IIRC, I read somewhere that Gen. Karpinski had already professed her intent to retire some month(s) ago?

There was some supposition that it was the reason she did not get hit up very hard, as she had already submitted retirement papers..


6 posted on 05/20/2004 11:24:14 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom.... not just a job, ... It's An Adventure!!!)
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Ouch!

I never realized till this war just how PC certain parts of our military had become....especially the fembot part.

Shame.


7 posted on 05/20/2004 11:24:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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Good. Then let's let both these twits (or substitute another vowel in that last word if you like) attend their reunion at whatever curious ''school'' might be appropriate.

Reno, Lapinski, same net results regarding utter disregard for both mission AND the Constitution. The operative description would SEEM to be ''ego over competence''.

Who knows, perhaps there's a faux-Beach Boys lyric here:

''Re-no, La-pin-ski, they don't do Lew-in-skies...''

8 posted on 05/20/2004 11:28:32 PM PDT by SAJ (Buy 1 NGF05 8.00 call, Sell 3 NGF05 11.00 calls against, for $500 credit OB.)
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To: dc-zoo
Wups. My bad.

Please substitute ''Karpinski'' for ''Lepinski''. Old Apache motto: Type too fast, die too soon. (blushing)

9 posted on 05/20/2004 11:31:24 PM PDT by SAJ (Buy 1 NGF05 8.00 call, Sell 3 NGF05 11.00 calls against, for $500 credit OB.)
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"..In fact, we owe the entire Abu Ghraib scandal to the leadership failure and gross incompetence of Janis Karpinski and to her superiors' fear of doing anything about her ineptitude because she is a woman. She should have been relieved of her command last summer but was not..."

That is exactly the case. Karpinski's refusal to enforce discipline at all levels and lack of personal attention to the command led to this breakdown.

And, what did she do when this affair went public? She went on every talk show that would have her, often with an attorney, to do her Sgt. Schultz routine.

The Army did not relieve her because she was one of, if not the highest ranking female in the theater. It would not have been politic to relive her, however gross her incompetence and derilection was.

10 posted on 05/20/2004 11:32:34 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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She better hurry up.

The military courts are working their way up from the bottom on this. The one guy who's been convicted, will now spill his guts, providing details on his buddies and his superiors. Investigation will corroborate the details. His buddies will be convicted, and will then also have the opportunity to turn "State's (?) Evidence".

When they're through with the bottom-rank perpetrators, the courts martial will go after the next level up... and repeat the sequence.

General Munchcarpet will be last... and she'd better be out of the military and hiding in Hitlary's closet by then (which is what I fully expect...).

11 posted on 05/21/2004 12:13:28 AM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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bttt


12 posted on 05/21/2004 1:49:13 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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In fact, we owe the entire Abu Ghraib scandal to the leadership failure and gross incompetence of Janis Karpinski and to her superiors' fear of doing anything about her ineptitude because she is a woman. She should have been relieved of her command last summer but was not...

In his investigation of the abuses, Maj. Gen. Antonio Taguba recommended that Gen. Karpinski be relieved of her command. Even though she received a letter of admonishment from Joint Task Force-7 Commander Ricardo Sanchez, she has only been suspended from her command, not relieved...

Gen. Janis Karpinksi deserves America's contempt. She deserves to be court-martialed and dishonorably discharged...

She deserves more than contempt and a dishonorable discharge: she deserves jail time -a stiff sentence. Her inaction during the course of these affairs has been most astonishing. You'd expect that even a dunce, much more a military commander of such high rank -we're talking a General here,  would know to take some actions to identify and remedy known problems. The military gave her numerous chances to take control of the situation, but she did nothing, absolutely nothing, to investigate and correct problems at this prison.

One has to wonder if her inaction was intentional sabotage of the mission. Based on what I've read, it seems she had a problem taking orders from men, her superiors. In Taguba's report he noted how she acted as if there were still no problems at the prison even when confronted with the photographic evidence. At the same time these investigations were underway she was doing interviews with her hometown newspaper telling the interviewer how great things were for women in the military over the last 10 years (notice who's reign these years cover) and how she made sure all the gals in her command did everything the guys did -a die hard feminist with a feminist agenda if I've ever heard one. I don't think her inactions were due to complete incompetence though: I think her inaction was a passive attempt to sabotage the mission because she doesn't really support the war against terror, at least not by those currently in charge.

13 posted on 05/21/2004 2:14:38 AM PDT by Chief_Joe (From where the sun now sits, I will fight on -FOREVER!)
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Makes you wonder how she ever became a General in the first place. Is it just one of these cases where they needed more minorities in high places and just shooed her in?


14 posted on 05/21/2004 2:43:26 AM PDT by garylmoore (The word "gay" means to be happy not abnormal!)
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"She has taken them like a woman -- whining, making excuses and complaining that it's not her fault, that she's being "scapegoated.""

Watched her interview last night. What a disgrace. She's Amarosa in khaki.


15 posted on 05/21/2004 5:08:35 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Vote Kerry if you want to commit national suicide)
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bttt


16 posted on 05/21/2004 5:30:51 AM PDT by Guenevere (..., .Press on toward the goal!)
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I agree Karpinski is a disgrace.

But is whining really a typical characteristic of women? Strange argument.

17 posted on 05/21/2004 8:25:23 AM PDT by what's up
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bump


18 posted on 05/22/2004 12:47:14 AM PDT by Jape
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Interview of JK on MSNBC right now....


19 posted on 05/24/2004 6:23:12 PM PDT by Klaus D. Deore
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