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Islam: The World's Most Dangerous Ideology
Political USA ^ | 29 April 2004 | Dorothy Anne Seese

Posted on 04/29/2004 5:25:28 PM PDT by MegaSilver

The nation of Israel is a nearly sixty year old sore spot in the present-day Middle East, it costs American taxpayers a lot of money to support (billions per year), it's the focus of dispensational Christian theology, but ... Israel can take care of itself. Really. All the US has to do is say "sic 'em" and walk away.

The US has a major problem with its role in the present world conflict because it has a religious underpinning in Islamic theology that has again reared its head. The Ottoman Empire was not defeated in 1918, at the end of World War I. The Arab/Islamic nations simply split up, some being created by Britain and/or the useless League of Nations (predecessor to the useless United Nations) and went on being Islamic nations, Arab or not. The most secularized nation of the former Ottoman Empire, Turkey, underwent massive transitions toward westernization under Ataturk, but Islam is still the primary religion of the people even though Turkey has no state religion. Turkish people are not Arabic in ethnicity, although they have a significant Arab population with a growing pro-Islamic population.

As to the balance of the Middle East, including and focusing on times with the holy cities of Islam Mecca and Medina in Saudi Arabia, Islam is the national religion. But Islamic peoples aren't staying at home.

The migration of the Muslims into England, Ireland, France, Germany and other European nations, including the territory in Spain once occupied by the Moors of North Africa (Islamic people), and into nations in the Western Hemisphere (primarily the United States) the world has an enormous problem with an idelology/religion of conquest and conversion at sword's point.

When the American press speaks of the Arab nations, they are careful to avoid the religious implications lest the jihad or holy war become exposed for what it really is: a worldwide movement by Islam to migrate, settle, acquire wealth and power by numbers, and procede with the Islamic agenda of world domination. "Islamic radicals" is the term used to differentiate actively terrorist Islamics from those who are not yet active.

This just isn't being given the press it deserves because America and Europe are in the "do not offend" mode of classic national stupidity which arrests all preventative action until eventually peaceful resolution is no longer possible and bloodshed occurs. To Islam, the West represents the focus and home base of Christianity regardless of where it was really birthed, in the Middle East. It was in the West that Christianity grew, and both Judaism and Christianity are to Islam mortal enemies to be eradicated.

The US has done its best to appease the Islamics, which includes allowing them to migrate into the US as students or tourists and simply become a part of the population. In any jihad, it is clear that the Islamic beliefs will dominate any alternative course of action on the part of the Muslim population, like neutrality, which would be treason to the cause of Allah.

For the life of me I cannot understand the US policy that I've viewed since the last days of Franklin Delano Roosevelt through the Truman administration and on into the present day, consisting of no-win partial war and grand appeasement of our enemies. To me, the United States is a sovereign nation and can alter its immigration laws as it pleases. Apparently it pleases the leadership of the US to ignore the world ambitions of Islam, since Arab nations sit on the world's major source of oil. If another nation did that, our media would accuse them of selling out their country for profit. A few American writers have expressed that opinion, but fairly quietly.

Islam as a threat to the world around it is over 1400 years old, dating back to the seventh century A.D. By the year 1,000 A.D. the advanced Persian civilization, with medicine, astronomy, advanced mathematics, literature and other marks of civilization was plunged back into the darkest of dark ages by the advance of Islam. Even Omar Khayyam had to flee to Samarkand to avoid the Assassins, which name has been transliterated into the English language. Its origin is in Islam, the name being assigned to hit squads of Muslim "radicals" who carried out a religious contract against any opposition leader or popular figure.

Whether the United States maintains its secular status as a free society for all religious beliefs, which is the sum of the First Amendment religion clause, Islam is not a party to any treaty with either secular or religious nations. It has one doctrine: conquer for Allah. If the American leadership believes it has a bunch of Ataturk clones in the present-day Arab dictators or warlords, it is dead wrong and many Americans are dead in wars with these folks who are so peaceful.

Americans insist on producing and using conventional weapons of warfare, a useless and bloody way to fight an ideology. The early Christians grew under intense persecution, that's the way ideologies are. National wars are fought with conventional weaponry, nation against nation until one surrenders. That is not the course of ideological warfare.

This is not a diatribe designed to spawn hatred of any religion, it is merely an analysis of the times, trends and events that are affecting all our lives and the factors of which the world and the United States must be wary in order to be able to protect what few freedoms we have left (compared to the freedoms our forefathers enjoyed prior to World War I). Americans are notoriously ill-informed when it comes to the various threats to its people and its national security, finding enemies where there is little proof that they exist as such, and not finding enemies in nations or in ideologies that are capable of bringing down our nation and killing millions of our people.

Call it terrorism if you like, certainly the basis of Islam fits the description of terrorism but not every Muslim subscribes to volunteering as a terrorist. At least not willingly. So far, all the terrorists have been Islamic, that doesn't mean they always will be. Nor does the fact that many Muslims are peaceful neighbors mean they always will be. Right now, Islam is still the world's most dangerous ideology. Europeans and Americans need to recognize that publicly and begin to unwind the coils of Islam present in the various Western world's countries. Otherwise, the growth and spread of Islam will continue until it is the world's dominant force. Personally, I think it will be contained prior to that time, but that may only be wishful thinking.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
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To: Hank Kerchief
BUMP for later investigation!
41 posted on 04/29/2004 7:01:36 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: MegaSilver; Eagle9; freedox; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; MouthOfTheSouth; Memother; joan_30; ...
Bumps
42 posted on 04/29/2004 7:05:46 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ExposeDem
Dude, take your meds..............NOW!
43 posted on 04/29/2004 7:09:47 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: ExposeDem
> Do you enjoy spreading evil misconceptions?

I have complained to admin about you, troll.
44 posted on 04/29/2004 7:12:51 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: ExposeDem
> Islam's prophets include Moses and Christ

No, Islam BLASPHEMES Christ. Islam says:
- Christ is not God, only a prophet
- Christ was not crucified for our sins
- Christ did not rise from the dead

Islamists HATE Christians and Christ! They spew vile lies about respecting Jesus Christ as a "prophet". Their idea of a prophet is the insane and satanic Mohammed.
45 posted on 04/29/2004 7:16:48 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: ExposeDem
> Mary appeared in 1858

I am sorry. Apparitions claiming to be the blessed virgin are FAKE and demonic. God has left us His final Word in Scripture.
46 posted on 04/29/2004 7:18:12 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: ExposeDem
I'm a bit confused, as are probably many of the readers of this post. You might be drawing a bit too much from your own understanding of Catholic theology, or you assume others reading your post know the same info as you. Since I'm a conservative Protestant, I have no idea what you think appearances of Mary have to do with Satan's plans or the years of 1858 or 1917.

I have neither the time nor the energy to expend on a detailed discussion of Catholic theology. That's been done many times on this forum.

As to my original comment, I was just trying to be humorous.
47 posted on 04/29/2004 7:27:29 PM PDT by Genesis defender (Prayer is the first line of defense.)
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To: Hank Kerchief
Thanks for posting this information.
48 posted on 04/29/2004 7:28:21 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Genesis defender
I'm a bit confused, as are probably many of the readers of this post.

Basically, Satan had a plan: Socialism. Mary appeared in 1858 and 1917 to warn followers of it, but they were told to stay discreet, as it was a prophecy (and many wouldn't believe them).

At least that's what I THINK he's saying. Being myself somewhere between Protestant and Catholic theologically, and leaning toward Orthodoxy as of late, I can't really tell for sure.

49 posted on 04/29/2004 7:44:44 PM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: happygrl
The 8th Crusade ended in 1191..

Did the 9th begin on 9/11.

hey..those numbers ..almost Nostradamus like in anagram.

shift:
Saddam murdered how many?..plus the deaths of how many Kuwaities?..Iranians in the decade long Iran/Iraq war.
Add the Kurdish murder spree.

Is the Islamic world thankfull for what America and the coalition have achieved?..hardly.

Israel stopped Saddam from having the bomb.
Saddam fired theatre ballistic missiles at Iran,Kuwait..and Israel.
If he had nukes..our world is undone..oil prices go thru the roof..world markets cascade in collapse.

Islam should be gratefull,..instead..they hate more than ever.

We are both handling the oil for whatever we can get.
Soon I think..we will be at war just to obtain it.
Extortion is next sequence pattern in Ilsamic thought when not invading realms to convert by force the Infidel.
We are in a phase of extortion...terror is a from of it..so is the smirking Saudi talking heads..and the sleaze of Al Jazeera.
Extortion can only run so long....it has to have an outcome.
Are we in the 9th Crusade?..

I think so.

50 posted on 04/29/2004 8:06:23 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Thanks for the ping!
51 posted on 04/29/2004 8:24:15 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: farmfriend
I believe in some sense that is exactly what Bush has done.

And I believe you are right.


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

52 posted on 04/29/2004 8:26:40 PM PDT by rdb3 (Let others praise ancient times; I am glad I was born in these.)
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To: MegaSilver
I received an email today that is extremely frightening. It is too long to post, so I'll post excerpts from it;

President Bush and his administration spokesmen are not telling the American people what they really need to know about this "war." If they don't do that between now and November, it may cost them the election.

THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE GREAT CALIPHATE by Larry Abraham, January 29, 2004

This war is what the Jihadists themselves are calling the "Third Great Jihad." They are operating within the framework of a time line which reaches back to the very creation of Islam in the seventh century and are presently attempting to recreate the dynamics which gave rise to the religion in the first two hundred years of its existence.

The Western Roman Empire was in ruins and the Eastern
Empire, based in Constantinople, was trying desperately to keep the power of its early grandeur while transitioning to Christianity as a de facto state religion. The costs to the average person were large as he was being required to meet the constantly rising taxes levied by the state along with the tithes coerced by the Church.

What Islam offered was the "carrot or the sword." If you became a convert, your taxes were immediately eliminated, as was your tithe. If you didn't, you were put to death. The choice was not hard.

The "Second Great Jihad" came with the Ottoman Turks. This empire succeeded in bringing about the downfall of Constantinople as a Christian stronghold and an end to Roman hegemony in all of its forms.


The strategy for this "holy war" did not begin with the planning of the destruction of the World Trade Center. It began with the toppling of the Shah of Iran back in the late 1970's. [Jimmy Carter held to blame for this]

With his plans and programs to "westernize" his country, along with his close ties to the U.S. and subdued acceptance of the State of Israel, the Shah was the soft target.

Wahhabiism calls for the complete and total rejection and destruction of anything and everything which is not based in the original teachings of The Prophet and finds its most glaring practice in the policies of the Afghani Taliban or the Shiite practices of the late Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran.

Its Ali Pasha (Field Marshall) is now known as Osama bin Laden, the leader of the "Third Jihad," who is Wahhabi as were his 9/11 attack teams, 18 of which were also Saudi.

The Third Jihad now had a base of operations and the oil wealth to support its grand design or what they call the "Great Caliphate."

What this design calls for is the replacement of all secular leadership in any country with Muslim majorities.

As a part of this strategy, forces of the jihad will infiltrate governments and the military as a prelude to taking control, once the secular leadership is ousted or assassinated.

Should George W. Bush be defeated in November we could expect to see the dominoes start to fall in the secular Islamic countries and The Clash of Civilizations, predicted several years ago by Samuel Huntington, would then become a life-changing event in all of our lives.



53 posted on 04/29/2004 8:53:20 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: MegaSilver
INTSUM - TROP!
54 posted on 04/29/2004 9:25:38 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: MegaSilver
jihad bump
55 posted on 04/30/2004 12:10:44 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: potlatch
I received an email today that is extremely frightening. It is too long to post, so I'll post excerpts from it

I have been trying to warn people about the dangers from militant Islam for years- some links to many more links:

-Jihad! Across the World....--

-Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...--

Clash of Civilizatio:

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56 posted on 04/30/2004 1:25:21 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Light Speed
Are we in the 9th Crusade?..

I think so.

I AGREE.

You have stated it for more clearly than this author. I do not disagree with what I THINK is her premise, it's just that her style of writing leaves much to be desired.

57 posted on 04/30/2004 12:19:30 PM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...we can't go Spanish!)
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To: happygrl
Well..found this paragraph kinda strange.

This is not a diatribe designed to spawn hatred of any religion, it is merely an analysis of the times, trends and events that are affecting all our lives and the factors of which the world and the United States must be wary in order to be able to protect what few freedoms we have left (compared to the freedoms our forefathers enjoyed prior to World War I). Americans are notoriously ill-informed when it comes to the various threats to its people and its national security, finding enemies where there is little proof that they exist as such, and not finding enemies in nations or in ideologies that are capable of bringing down our nation and killing millions of our people.

Seeing that a great Majority of America's populace has seen WW-2 onward..one would have to rest in some surety that indeed..America does understand what is *Rotting in the other room.

2004 is turning out to be the year of the *Flip Flop ....maybe it has something to do with the Chinese year of the Monkey,
swing both ways...scratch and howl : )

58 posted on 04/30/2004 12:49:43 PM PDT by Light Speed
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To: UCSC Republican
1. Islam
2. European Secular Socialism
3. American Judeo-Christian Capitalism

4. The 90% of humans who reject all ideological idiocy in favor of common sense.Always have been the most powerful,always will.

59 posted on 04/30/2004 1:39:35 PM PDT by browsin
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To: browsin
Notice though, that these are worldviews, not ideologies. Your worldview is what informs your ideology. It is why conservatives are conservatives, libs are libs, etc.
60 posted on 04/30/2004 6:37:58 PM PDT by UCSC Republican (Guns don't kill people. Abortion clinics kill people.)
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