1 posted on
04/18/2004 12:18:24 PM PDT by
quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
It is the media attempting to make Iraq another Vietnam. They are providing aid and comfort to our enemies. The terrorists are watching and liking what they see in the panic. The media is clearly biased and it will be a relief to have this election behind us because they are clearly not helpful. They are reckless.
To: quidnunc
Give 'en hell Tommy. Rice, Franks 08.
3 posted on
04/18/2004 12:23:01 PM PDT by
BipolarBob
(Before entering the Witness Protection Program, I was John Galt. Anyone asking about me?)
To: quidnunc
My advice to you, Mr. Jimenez: Rather than go to war with Gen. Franks, consider what you did to make him so angry.
Hint: Some people don't like being lied about -- not even by a press that is free to do so.
4 posted on
04/18/2004 12:25:29 PM PDT by
Bonaparte
To: quidnunc
The liberal press does not report "the truth" about Iraq; it reports a slanted, highly spun, one-sided view of the truth.
That spin, whether consciously intended or not, has the effect of helping the liberals in this country, and put the conservatives in the worst light possible.
And, of course, the Islamo-fascists want liberal principles and leaders to prevail in this country, because they will offer less determined opposition to the Islamo-fascists.
Each of those three things is a fact, and a well-documented fact. The author of this hit piece should deal with those facts.
Is a transcript of what General Franks actually said available on line? I would be interested to read his speach, rather than this liberal's spin on the speach.
To: quidnunc
Would love to see stories of war if Gore or Gorelick were running it.
US Casualties the Lowest for Any Major Action in History
Brilliant US Strategy Keeps Chemical Bombs in the Middle East
Gore Brings Freedom to Millions
US Has Strong Heart In Action Aaganst Terror
Women of Islam Have Education Under US
World Leaders Express Thanks to US Administration
World Sees the Children of Iraq Get Medicine
Water, Power and Medicine Restored in Iraq
7 posted on
04/18/2004 12:36:08 PM PDT by
alrea
(Arafat Mideast Peace: child bomber body part as his bank accounts grow old)
To: quidnunc
...a reporter has to cool his heels for hours before the great person is ready to give an interview... You're breaking the hearts of anybody who's ever had to work manual in their life.
Having labored in the vineyards of the journalism farm for more than three decades, I've always been of the mind that no one cares how many thorns we encounter or how much sweat falls from our brow.
Call 1-800-WAA-AAAH! Al Gore and Michael Moore know the number.
To: quidnunc
It is way past time for the press to be called to account for the awful way this conflict has been reported so far. General Franks is a "no nonsense" comander who knows the truth of what has happened and I for one am not surprised to hear that he has spoken about that.
In the long run he will probabley be excoriated for his remarks because of that old addage which says "don't get into a P*****g match with a skunk.....he has ammo you don't have"
To: quidnunc
This guy missed the whole point Franks was making. Having a free media is good, but purposely BIASED, negative, liberal/slanted propoganda is NOT media.
13 posted on
04/18/2004 12:42:27 PM PDT by
Mr. K
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To: quidnunc
What a disgusting whiny little crybaby.
No wonder people think that journalism has so much in common with the world's oldest profession.
15 posted on
04/18/2004 12:56:32 PM PDT by
Columbine
(Bush '04 - Owens '08)
To: quidnunc
Obviously, what we need is a No-Whine Zone.
16 posted on
04/18/2004 12:57:38 PM PDT by
MizSterious
(First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
From KRISTV.COM
April 14General Tommy Franks visits C.C.
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The man who led U.S. troops into Iraq was 4 star General Tommy Franks, who has since retired.
He was in Corpus Christi Wednesday to "speak freely" about the leadership and the ongoing effort in Iraq.
His appearance as part of Christus Spohn's annual Lyceum event comes at a critical point in Iraq.
87 U.S. troops have already been killed in April alone, making it the deadliest month since March of 2003.
Before retiring last August, Franks had leading soldiers into both Iraq and Afghanistan.
Before the Lyceum, he told reporters that he had predicted the fighting in Iraq would have by now been on the decline.
Franks says, "I was hopeful a month or two ago that we would put ourselves on sort of a trend to reduce the troop levels in Iraq and hand over to the Iraqi military and security forces responsibility for Iraq."
Instead, it's been more like the opposite.
The attacks on troops and civilians are coming nearly everyday all over the country, and troops are having to be kept longer than they were initially told.
Franks believes the intense media coverage of the ambushes over the past few months have only helped to inspire those responsible for the violence.
"The terrorists themselves, the bathists themselves, were able to watch this coverage and say 'Ah, we're succeeding,'" he says, "and so then rather than turning down the burner of violence in Iraq, what have we seen? They have turned it up."
Franks says he and the troops are committed finishing what they started, but the length of time needed and number of additional injuries or casualties to be suffered as a result remains unclear.
"At the end of the day, we know what it's gonna look like," he says, "Iraq is going to be a representative government for the people, the 25+ million who live there, but in the near term, I think one doesn't know. It's a good question. We just don't have a complete answer for you right now."
There is a supposed truce this week, but the attacks on U.S. troops continue nonetheless.
The tentative deadline for establishing an Iraqi government is still June 30, but many are growing doubtful that will happen as expected.
18 posted on
04/18/2004 1:02:53 PM PDT by
risk
("Iraq is going to be a representative government for the people, the 25+ million who live there")
To: quidnunc
Well, I, too, was in Uncle Sam's Army in Vietnam during the Tet offensive, and that may be one of the few things that Franks and I share. It's obvious that we have different views of how democracy and a free press are supposed to work. Then he must know that even though Tet was a victory for the United States, Walter Cronkite and other various low forms of life portrayed it as a defeat. That's the same thing that the press is trying to accomplish today in Iraq. Calling them scumbags is an insult to scum.
To: quidnunc
Tommy will be in the news big time this week. He is the 'star' of the new Woodward book (watch out tonight on C-BS!).
24 posted on
04/18/2004 1:11:37 PM PDT by
RegT
To: quidnunc
Do I detect that the reporters of the Washington Bureau of Al-Jazerra have been reached and they don't like it?
TOO Fin BAD!
I would not call it an attack. More akin to uncovering the varmints that are smelling up the place.
26 posted on
04/18/2004 1:14:06 PM PDT by
cynicom
To: quidnunc
Here! Let this useful idiot reporter know what truth is....
Editorial Page Editor Nick Jimenez
e-mail at
jimenezn@caller.com .
28 posted on
04/18/2004 1:37:33 PM PDT by
steplock
(http://www.gohotsprings.com)
To: quidnunc
" But the clincher was his belief that if not for the press's criticism of the White House and skewed view, in his eyes, of what was happening in Iraq, the renewed fighting in Iraq would not have occurred."
The Clincher ?? It's the absolute truth.
To: quidnunc
Sensitive little RAT lapdog, ain't he?
Funny how lying liberal scum hates to be called lying liberal scum.
To: quidnunc
Email him....e-mail at
jimenezn@caller.com. Although it is my experience that journalists do not take constructive criticism well. They seem to only like it if you agree with them.
Mr. Jimnenez fails to understand that Iraq is not a democracy YET. And as always especially since Vietnam the press and media are unwilling to realize the consequences of their actions in the increase in the violence against our troops and the undermining of resolve and morale both at home (USA) and the field of battle. Plus their role in emboldening the enemy.
To: quidnunc
Mr. Jimenez states he served in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive. He is presumably aware then of the distortion by the media of the outcome of that battle. Tet was a nearly complete destruction of the vc in South Vietnam. But the media presented it to the American public as the opposite - a defeat for American and allied forces. This ultimately led to America's abandonment of millions of our S. Vietnamese allies to ultimate deaths. Mr. Jimenez is presumably aware also of the terrible slander by Mr. Kerry against Americans and others who served in Vietnam (it, too, contributing to that same abandonment of millions of our Vietnamese allies to ultimate deaths.) Mr. Jimenez: where are these huge travesties in our present, news listings? Where?
44 posted on
04/18/2004 2:58:04 PM PDT by
mtntop3
("Those who must know before they believe will never come to full knowledge.")
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