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Senator Tells TSA: Arm Pilots or Lose Funding
Cybercast News Service. ^ | April 02, 2004 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 04/02/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by neverdem


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Senator Tells TSA: Arm Pilots or Lose Funding
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
April 02, 2004

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Frustrated by the Transportation Security Administration's delay in arming airline pilots with guns, four members of Congress said Thursday they want the agency to quit dragging its feet.

"We're not interested in any excuses from here on out. This is too important to our national security," said Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.), who introduced legislation that would require TSA to speed up the process of arming pilots.

click to enlargeBunning was joined by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) and Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who is sponsoring a companion bill in the House. But it was the Kentucky senator who had the harshest words for TSA.

"They'll get the message or they'll lose their money for the program," Bunning said. "We'll put it somewhere where it will get the job done."

Congress passed the federal flight deck officer program in November 2002 in hopes of making airline pilots the last line of defense against hijackings. A year later lawmakers added cargo pilots to the program.

But, as a CNSNews.com investigation found, TSA has made the program cumbersome and discouraging for pilots. According to Wilson, less than 1 percent of the 40,000 pilots who signed up to participate have been trained.

Pilots have complained about the way federal flight deck officers must transport their firearms - in lockboxes, except inside the cockpit; TSA-administered background investigations, psychological exams and the release of personal information; and the remote location of the program's single training facility in Artesia, N.M.

"To have an agency that is unelected, that is sitting on legislation like this and not doing it is absolutely wrong," Boxer said. "In essence, TSA is turning its back on a law that is the law of the land."

Added Bunning, "It's not up to them to like the legislation. It's up to them to implement the legislation that the Congress passed."

When asked to respond Thursday, a TSA spokeswoman requested that CNSNews.com submit written questions. The agency had not responded to the inquiry as of Thursday evening.

The lawmakers at Thursday's gathering on Capitol Hill stressed that TSA already has the authority to properly implement the law. But they said that clearly isn't happening, given the complaints from pilots and the small number who have successfully completed the training.

"This could be done administratively by TSA," Wilson said. "All we're trying to do is really push what should already occur."

The bill, called the "Cockpit Security Technical Corrections and Improvement Act," makes a number of changes that would speed up the process of arming pilots and tear down the barriers that turn off pilots from ever applying.

Not only would pilots have to be trained within 90 days, but it would also allow pilots with a military or law enforcement background to be armed immediately.

The TSA would have to open more training facilities and use private training facilities for recurrent training, according to the bill. The agency would be responsible for picking up the tab for the pilots' travel expenses.

The legislation would also end the use of lockboxes, allow pilots to carry a gun outside the cockpit and let them pass through security like other law enforcement officers. Pilots could sue the TSA if the agency violates the law.

"As airline pilots, our fundamental mission remains the same: get our passengers, our crew, our cargo safely to its destination," said David Mackett, president of the Airline Pilots Security Alliance. "It is unfortunate, but nevertheless true, that fulfilling that mission now requires new tools, including an armed cockpit."

Representatives from the Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations, Astar Air Cargo and the Law Enforcement Alliance for America were also on hand to offer their support.

Bunning, citing an urgent need for the legislation, promised to take the matter up with the Senate Commerce Committee immediately.

"It is a gaping hole in our national security, particularly for those who fly on a daily basis or a weekly basis," Bunning said. "And we're all, the people here in this Congress, on that schedule. So it isn't just for us, but it's for all the daily commuters and fliers that we plug this big hole."

And for someone like Boxer, who flies frequently to her home state of California, the issue transcends her typical alignment with gun-control proponents. Both the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and Gun Owners of America are strong proponents of the legislation.

"We're not just going to sit quietly by," Boxer said. "This whole program was meant to make sure that what happened on 9/11 never happens again. This is a plan that is a very important part of that never happening again. And they're not executing it. And we've pretty much had it."

See Earlier Story:
Thousands of Pilots Won't Fly Armed, Blame TSA
(Jan. 15, 2004)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Tennessee; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinepilots; airlinesecurity; armedpilots; bang; banglist; ffdo; secondamendment; tsa
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To: KC_for_Freedom
This not an evasive maneuvering. Evasive maneuvers are ACM and Anti-SAM tactics. This is just basic physics. You can't do squat when you are zero g. You can't do squat when you are at neg 1.5 G and bouncing off the overhead bins. You cant' do squat when you come off the bins and slam into the seats upside down at pos 2.5 G's. What you can do is puke your guts out and crap your pants. Your only alternative is to stay strapped in. Either way you ARE gonna get very sick.
101 posted on 04/03/2004 5:32:38 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: tcuoohjohn
But I guarantee you you will send that pilot a Christmas card and a bottle of his favorite scotch for the rest of your life.

I expect so. After the suit is settled, I'll certainly be able to afford it!

102 posted on 04/03/2004 5:49:27 PM PST by null and void
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To: tcuoohjohn
Either way you ARE gonna get very sick.

I agree this could be done, but this does not mean the copilot should not be pulling the heat. Whats the harm in having as many tools as possible?

Also I am certain the pilots in 9-11 did not have the 1 second you postulate. By the time the were aware of strangers in the cockpit, their assailents were on them. (I am not sure you can get that much inertia moving in one second either, but I am an aerospace engineer, not a comercial pilot, so I will defer to them). I will grant that with enough time and everyone but the terrorists strapped in, the pilot could make life misserable for them. While they are puking on the cabin floor, the co-pilot could put a bullet between each of their eyes, (If I were on the flight I would volunteer for clean up duty.) Cheers.

103 posted on 04/03/2004 6:34:15 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: tcuoohjohn
Be sure not to approach the dead terrorists until the pilot has turned off the "no smoking" sign
104 posted on 04/03/2004 7:19:44 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: silverleaf
LOL
105 posted on 04/03/2004 7:42:20 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: XHogPilot
Why was I pinged to this?

I TOTALLY agree with all the points you made!

I only wish this applied to Qantas pilots as well.
106 posted on 04/03/2004 8:26:55 PM PST by KangarooJacqui (I FReep because I can...)
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To: tcuoohjohn
Apparently you love roller coasters....but not rationality.

The pilots should never have been disarmed.

107 posted on 04/04/2004 6:12:11 AM PDT by hoosierham
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To: tcuoohjohn
Nice thought.

Yeah, right.

108 posted on 04/04/2004 6:12:39 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: B4Ranch
Indirectly, yes.

Mineta's ATTITUDE about arming pilots has permeated the entire TSA.

It's whole goal has been to try to delay, disrupt, intimidate, and stall the pilots, the program, and the process.

They are preventing former military pilots (many of who have flown with nuclear weapons and conventional bombs for years) from carrying a weapon, but demand that TSA ground employees be able to stroll through the gates armed.
109 posted on 04/04/2004 6:17:39 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: neverdem
Transportation Security Administration has hog tied the pilots - the procedure for a pilot to use his weapon is farcical...to leave the cockpit to use the Lu is farcical...gun must never be seen by passengers...gun must remain in box if cabin door is open...if cabin door is open?...if attendant enters cockpit - gun must be placed in box first...

Senators Bunning, Boxer and the rest may threaten all they want because what they want is just plain stupid. Imagine a cop going on duty without his weapon on his person or at the very least handy. Politicians! What these people don't know or even care about finding out before they start screeching at the top of their lungs could fill a black hole in space!!

110 posted on 04/04/2004 6:21:18 AM PDT by yoe (Political Correctness OUT! Profiling IN! Know your enemy!)
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To: null and void
Not a jury in all of Christendom who would find a pilot or company negligent for bringing the souls home alive.

You might even get a jury that has a sense of justice and finds the pilot and company guilty of negligence and awards the plaintiff one dollar in compensation and one or those tiny airline liquor bottles.
111 posted on 04/04/2004 9:14:58 AM PDT by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: tcuoohjohn
LOL! NO man's life, liberty, or property is safe as long as court is in session.

Your naïveté is refreshing.

I guess you've never heard of the deep pockets rule...

112 posted on 04/04/2004 9:25:32 AM PDT by null and void
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To: E Rocc
I think the "F-Troop mentality" will always dominate the BATF - that bunch of FBI, Marshalls Service, and Border Patrol rejects.
113 posted on 04/04/2004 9:10:05 PM PDT by Redbob
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