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Senator Tells TSA: Arm Pilots or Lose Funding
Cybercast News Service. ^ | April 02, 2004 | Robert B. Bluey

Posted on 04/02/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by neverdem


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Senator Tells TSA: Arm Pilots or Lose Funding
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
April 02, 2004

Capitol Hill (CNSNews.com) - Frustrated by the Transportation Security Administration's delay in arming airline pilots with guns, four members of Congress said Thursday they want the agency to quit dragging its feet.

"We're not interested in any excuses from here on out. This is too important to our national security," said Sen. Jim Bunning (R-Ky.), who introduced legislation that would require TSA to speed up the process of arming pilots.

click to enlargeBunning was joined by Sens. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) and Conrad Burns (R-Mont.) and Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.), who is sponsoring a companion bill in the House. But it was the Kentucky senator who had the harshest words for TSA.

"They'll get the message or they'll lose their money for the program," Bunning said. "We'll put it somewhere where it will get the job done."

Congress passed the federal flight deck officer program in November 2002 in hopes of making airline pilots the last line of defense against hijackings. A year later lawmakers added cargo pilots to the program.

But, as a CNSNews.com investigation found, TSA has made the program cumbersome and discouraging for pilots. According to Wilson, less than 1 percent of the 40,000 pilots who signed up to participate have been trained.

Pilots have complained about the way federal flight deck officers must transport their firearms - in lockboxes, except inside the cockpit; TSA-administered background investigations, psychological exams and the release of personal information; and the remote location of the program's single training facility in Artesia, N.M.

"To have an agency that is unelected, that is sitting on legislation like this and not doing it is absolutely wrong," Boxer said. "In essence, TSA is turning its back on a law that is the law of the land."

Added Bunning, "It's not up to them to like the legislation. It's up to them to implement the legislation that the Congress passed."

When asked to respond Thursday, a TSA spokeswoman requested that CNSNews.com submit written questions. The agency had not responded to the inquiry as of Thursday evening.

The lawmakers at Thursday's gathering on Capitol Hill stressed that TSA already has the authority to properly implement the law. But they said that clearly isn't happening, given the complaints from pilots and the small number who have successfully completed the training.

"This could be done administratively by TSA," Wilson said. "All we're trying to do is really push what should already occur."

The bill, called the "Cockpit Security Technical Corrections and Improvement Act," makes a number of changes that would speed up the process of arming pilots and tear down the barriers that turn off pilots from ever applying.

Not only would pilots have to be trained within 90 days, but it would also allow pilots with a military or law enforcement background to be armed immediately.

The TSA would have to open more training facilities and use private training facilities for recurrent training, according to the bill. The agency would be responsible for picking up the tab for the pilots' travel expenses.

The legislation would also end the use of lockboxes, allow pilots to carry a gun outside the cockpit and let them pass through security like other law enforcement officers. Pilots could sue the TSA if the agency violates the law.

"As airline pilots, our fundamental mission remains the same: get our passengers, our crew, our cargo safely to its destination," said David Mackett, president of the Airline Pilots Security Alliance. "It is unfortunate, but nevertheless true, that fulfilling that mission now requires new tools, including an armed cockpit."

Representatives from the Coalition of Airline Pilots Associations, Astar Air Cargo and the Law Enforcement Alliance for America were also on hand to offer their support.

Bunning, citing an urgent need for the legislation, promised to take the matter up with the Senate Commerce Committee immediately.

"It is a gaping hole in our national security, particularly for those who fly on a daily basis or a weekly basis," Bunning said. "And we're all, the people here in this Congress, on that schedule. So it isn't just for us, but it's for all the daily commuters and fliers that we plug this big hole."

And for someone like Boxer, who flies frequently to her home state of California, the issue transcends her typical alignment with gun-control proponents. Both the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms and Gun Owners of America are strong proponents of the legislation.

"We're not just going to sit quietly by," Boxer said. "This whole program was meant to make sure that what happened on 9/11 never happens again. This is a plan that is a very important part of that never happening again. And they're not executing it. And we've pretty much had it."

See Earlier Story:
Thousands of Pilots Won't Fly Armed, Blame TSA
(Jan. 15, 2004)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Tennessee; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinepilots; airlinesecurity; armedpilots; bang; banglist; ffdo; secondamendment; tsa
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This is the only time I've ever agreed with Boxer that I can remember. Will wonders ever cease?
1 posted on 04/02/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by neverdem
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2 posted on 04/02/2004 10:03:22 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: fourdeuce82d; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; El Gato; archy
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3 posted on 04/02/2004 10:03:48 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Perhaps Boxer believes she's actually in a tight race for re-election.
4 posted on 04/02/2004 10:04:26 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well...there you go again.")
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To: neverdem
This is the only time I've ever agreed with Boxer that I can remember. Will wonders ever cease?

You noticed that too?? I had to re-read it 4x, perhaps it's a belated April fools joke? I'm simply astounded....

5 posted on 04/02/2004 10:05:42 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: neverdem

6 posted on 04/02/2004 10:06:44 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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To: neverdem
what's the rush? ... I mean September 11, 2001 was only 2.5 years ago ... /sarcasm ...

I'm sure no more terrorists have come across the border or anything ... /double-sarcasm
7 posted on 04/02/2004 10:11:25 AM PST by Bobby777
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To: My2Cents
Perhaps Boxer believes she's actually in a tight race for re-election.

Ding, ding...we have a winner! It's amazing how poll pressure will force a politician to start abiding by the wishes of the electorate (as opposed to the wishes of the minority special interests).

8 posted on 04/02/2004 10:11:28 AM PST by SpyGuy
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To: SpyGuy
Ding, ding...we have a winner!

Apparently Bush is feeling no pressure from the polls.

9 posted on 04/02/2004 10:13:34 AM PST by GSWarrior (Obsessed with sects.)
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To: neverdem
the remote location of the program's single training facility in Artesia, N.M.

I'm still trying to figure out any logic behind this other than making it inconvenient. You don't need a lot of open land to teach pilots how to fight inside a very small room. Why not rent time at shooting ranges in the major hub cities (Atlanta, etc.) to make it easy for pilots to attend? It's not like you need a lot of skills to make the shoot/don't shoot decision:

Arab with a knife taking over the plane: shoot.
Drunk passenger verbally abusing flight attendant: don't shoot.

How many minutes (not hours or days) does it take to teach that?

We could even get the aircraft fusalage from Salman Pak in Iraq, take it back to the US, and use that for the opposite of its original purpose.

10 posted on 04/02/2004 10:15:54 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. - Ann Coulter 4/1/04, How 9-11 Happened)
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To: SpyGuy
I can't find anything on any poll numbers that's recent. Some 2003 polls showing Boxer ahead by 14+ pts but that was before the 'Pub primary. Bill Jones seems like an okay guy. Any CA FReepers know much about him?
11 posted on 04/02/2004 10:26:52 AM PST by BJClinton (France has elevated their threat level from "run" to "hide".)
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To: neverdem
You've gotta remember that the first head of TSA was Clinton's BATF director and the "F Troop" mentality still pollutes the agency. They'd much rather use police state tactics than arm non-officers.

-Eric

12 posted on 04/02/2004 10:29:35 AM PST by E Rocc (Democrats are to the economy what Round-up is to grass.)
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To: neverdem; StriperSniper; Mo1
BOXER is for this, there's got to be a catch.
13 posted on 04/02/2004 10:32:12 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: My2Cents; Hodar; All; *bang_list
I believe Boxer was one of the original sponsors of the implementing legislation, so my comment is somewhat misleading.
14 posted on 04/02/2004 10:32:53 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem
Arming pilots is a stupid idea. The point about controlling an aircrat is to keep hijackers away from those who control the aircraft. A shootout at 34,000 feet between hijackers and pilots is just plain stupid. A skilled pilot can do manuevers that would bounce hijackers off the overhead and reduce them to do nothing but puking their guts out. A 757 is stressed to 5.5 positive G's and 3.5 negative G's. Let pilots do what they do best. Fly. After 15 minutes of zero g parabola's with alternate pos G and neg G maneuvers a would be hijacker would be awash in a sea of puke and would beg to land.
15 posted on 04/02/2004 10:33:42 AM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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A skilled pilot can do manuevers that would bounce hijackers off the overhead and reduce them to do nothing but puking their guts out.

That worked 0/4 times on 9-11.

16 posted on 04/02/2004 10:37:10 AM PST by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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17 posted on 04/02/2004 10:39:35 AM PST by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra.)
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To: neverdem
This is as bad as the reluctance to profile.

What an outrage!
18 posted on 04/02/2004 10:55:34 AM PST by aculeus
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To: SpyGuy
When are we going to get rid of the Clinton hold-overs?
19 posted on 04/02/2004 10:55:40 AM PST by George from New England
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To: tcuoohjohn
Arming pilots is a stupid idea.

No, but asking for your opinion apparently is.

20 posted on 04/02/2004 11:00:29 AM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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