This is the only time I've ever agreed with Boxer that I can remember. Will wonders ever cease?
1 posted on
04/02/2004 10:02:05 AM PST by
neverdem
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3 posted on
04/02/2004 10:03:48 AM PST by
neverdem
(Xin loi min oi)
To: neverdem
Perhaps Boxer believes she's actually in a tight race for re-election.
4 posted on
04/02/2004 10:04:26 AM PST by
My2Cents
("Well...there you go again.")
To: neverdem
This is the only time I've ever agreed with Boxer that I can remember. Will wonders ever cease?You noticed that too?? I had to re-read it 4x, perhaps it's a belated April fools joke? I'm simply astounded....
5 posted on
04/02/2004 10:05:42 AM PST by
Hodar
(With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
To: neverdem
6 posted on
04/02/2004 10:06:44 AM PST by
freeeee
("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
To: neverdem
what's the rush? ... I mean September 11, 2001 was only 2.5 years ago ... /sarcasm ...
I'm sure no more terrorists have come across the border or anything ... /double-sarcasm
7 posted on
04/02/2004 10:11:25 AM PST by
Bobby777
To: neverdem
the remote location of the program's single training facility in Artesia, N.M. I'm still trying to figure out any logic behind this other than making it inconvenient. You don't need a lot of open land to teach pilots how to fight inside a very small room. Why not rent time at shooting ranges in the major hub cities (Atlanta, etc.) to make it easy for pilots to attend? It's not like you need a lot of skills to make the shoot/don't shoot decision:
Arab with a knife taking over the plane: shoot.
Drunk passenger verbally abusing flight attendant: don't shoot.
How many minutes (not hours or days) does it take to teach that?
We could even get the aircraft fusalage from Salman Pak in Iraq, take it back to the US, and use that for the opposite of its original purpose.
10 posted on
04/02/2004 10:15:54 AM PST by
KarlInOhio
(Clinton, advised by Dick Clarke, did nothing. - Ann Coulter 4/1/04, How 9-11 Happened)
To: neverdem
You've gotta remember that the first head of TSA was Clinton's BATF director and the "F Troop" mentality still pollutes the agency. They'd much rather use police state tactics than arm non-officers.
-Eric
12 posted on
04/02/2004 10:29:35 AM PST by
E Rocc
(Democrats are to the economy what Round-up is to grass.)
To: neverdem; StriperSniper; Mo1
BOXER is for this, there's got to be a catch.
To: neverdem
Arming pilots is a stupid idea. The point about controlling an aircrat is to keep hijackers away from those who control the aircraft. A shootout at 34,000 feet between hijackers and pilots is just plain stupid. A skilled pilot can do manuevers that would bounce hijackers off the overhead and reduce them to do nothing but puking their guts out. A 757 is stressed to 5.5 positive G's and 3.5 negative G's. Let pilots do what they do best. Fly. After 15 minutes of zero g parabola's with alternate pos G and neg G maneuvers a would be hijacker would be awash in a sea of puke and would beg to land.
15 posted on
04/02/2004 10:33:42 AM PST by
tcuoohjohn
(Follow The Money)
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Stamp out Stupidity
Vote Republican
17 posted on
04/02/2004 10:39:35 AM PST by
Lady Jag
(I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra.)
To: neverdem
This is as bad as the reluctance to profile.
What an outrage!
18 posted on
04/02/2004 10:55:34 AM PST by
aculeus
To: neverdem
I'm curious about whether airlines have changed their official policy of "accommodate, negotiate and do not escalate" with hijackers.
22 posted on
04/02/2004 11:30:11 AM PST by
an amused spectator
(FR: Leaving the burning dog poop bag of Truth on the front door step of the liberal media since 1996)
To: neverdem
This is the only time I've ever agreed with Boxer that I can remember. Will wonders ever cease? Barbara Boxer can read the polls, and she knows that even within California her extreme anti-gun positions gain her nothing (since she's already got the liberal vote locked up) and just energize her opponents. So she's found an issue on which she can agree with the pro-gun folks and she's running with it.
It's a smart political move. And she deserves our applause on this narrow issue. After all, that's how we have to shift the political calculus for politicians. We have to make it politically undesirable for them to oppose the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, and politically rewarding for them to support RKBA.
Given the right carrot-and-stick combination, we may be able to keep moving Boxer in our direction. She won't do so out of principles or conviction, but out of political expediency. That's still better than nothing. And she's going to be in the U.S. Senate for at least another six years, since Bill Jones has approximately zero chance of upsetting her.
24 posted on
04/02/2004 11:51:15 AM PST by
dpwiener
Bump
25 posted on
04/02/2004 12:00:15 PM PST by
Jotmo
("Voon", said the mattress.)
To: neverdem
We have a huge federal law enforcement training center near Savannah,GA, another just outside DC.
We have tens of thousands of pilots who are former military, current reserve LEOs, etc. A quick background check can be done in less than 72 hours... less than 10 minutes in an emergency.
The psyc checks? We already trust these men and women to fly 400 people and 400,000 pound guided missiles, what more is needed?
Lockbox. Why? If weapon is stolen, how long would it take any street perp to break into any locked box? If not stolen, what's the problem?
Idiocy. Typical government-organized, taxpayer-funded idiocy!
27 posted on
04/02/2004 12:27:45 PM PST by
MindBender26
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To: neverdem
It's always a shock to think that there are Federal employees who find an American with a gun to be more threatening than an Islamist with a bomb.
30 posted on
04/02/2004 12:47:08 PM PST by
Redcloak
(Over 13,000 served.)
To: neverdem
She's my home state Senator... She has an anti-gun record as long as her arm but in an election year, it doesn't hurt to take on the bureaucrats. The TSA needs to be made to get the message and I don't care who gets the political credit for it as long as our nation's pilots are finally armed.
32 posted on
04/02/2004 12:48:46 PM PST by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: neverdem
"To have an agency that is unelected, that is sitting on legislation like this and not doing it is absolutely wrong," Boxer said. "In essence, TSA is turning its back on a law that is the law of the land." Which doesn't bother her a bit when the EPA or the FDA or the IRS do it.
To: neverdem
Barbara BOXER, Überlib, is behind this? Reality disconnect.
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