Interracially Married Couples Insulted By Comparison of Their Relationships to Gay Marriage

February 20, 2004 | ComtedeMaistre

[ComtedeMaistre]

Over the past week, I had conversations with two long-time friends who are interracially married, over the ongoing controversy over gay marriage in Massachussetts and San Francisco. One is a next door neighbor in Louisiana, who is a white man married to a Vietnamese woman. The other is a black man from Seattle whom I have known since college, and he is married to a white woman from Alabama, and they are now living in Salt Lake City, Utah (we talked over the phone).

Both men are very conservative Christians and very pro-family, and they feel deeply insulted when they hear their loving, healthy, and normal relationships, being compared to the depravity of homosexual sodomy. And both are raising their children with strong traditionalist family values.

I suggested to both, that if several interracially married couples would speak out publicly, opposing the likening of their relationships to homosexuality, the comparisons that the homosexual activists are making by comparing themselves to interracially-married couples, would be rendered null and void.

Both thought it was a good idea. But they felt that, because interracially married couples still have to endure so much racial prejudice, it would be hard to find couples with the guts to speak out publicly in opposition to the homosexual agenda. My black friend in Utah has had it much worse than my white friend in Louisiana, because his white inlaws in Alabama have never accepted him as part of the family. His wife's parents have never even seen their own daughter's biracial children, and seem to have no interest in ever meeting them.

But I still feel that it is important for interracially married couples to speak out publicly against the homosexual agenda, in order to prevent gay activists from morally blackmailing this country, by accusing their pro-family opponents of bigotry. Such statements from interracially married couples who know real prejudice, would be taken more seriously by moderate swing voters, and help to mobilize them in supporting a constitutional ammmendment defining marriage as a man and a woman.

[Chris Talk]

Oh, you said "comparison," my bad.

The eye DOES somehow want to find "companion" there, however, doesn't it?

[don-o]

I love the smell of Zot.

[Chris Talk]

Moses had taken an Ethiopian wife as a sort of prize after his successful military campaign against that country.

We are never told that she accompanied him to Mitanni, however, possibly he had divorced her or she had died.

Tsiporah ["Birdie"] was a Midianite/Mitanni princess, the daughter of the ruler of that country, and thus a Caucasian, though perhaps sunburned...? This country lay in the NW part of Saudi Arabia today, and I think she probably resembled the women of that region.

[Yeah, I know, they wear hijab so how do I know how they look. LOL.]

[MEG33]

It's only a matter of when.It darts in and out of the shadows.

[cupcakes]

You bring up another point. Most of those for gay 'marriage' think that polygamy is immoral and should be illegal, however there is no doubt that polygamy has legit legs to stand on as far as history is concerned;gay marriage has none.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Where in the world did you get all that? It doesn't say that in the Bible, the commentary, or the Midrash.

[luckystarmom]

The gays are comparing their movement to the whole civil rights movement.

I think it demeans the civil rights movement.

Plus, gays could always go to the same school as straights, eat in the same restaurants, get the same jobs. Gays act like they are so descriminated against, but they don't know what real descrimination is.

[longtermmemmory]

Polygamy was about maximizing offspring and the number of farm hands.

[cupcakes]

Absolutely right and in addition interracial marriages have happened throughout history. The fact they were illegal for a time in some states was a matter of the poor morality of the time. Legalizing the unions was nothing new--interracial marriages have precedence in history and eventually the injustice of them being illegal was going to be overturned. Unlike interracial marriage, gay marriage has no precedence in history. I'm not sure I've ever heard of any civilization, even ones that tolerated and encouraged gay sex for pleasure and dominance like ancient Greece, who sanctioned gay marriages. They are unheard of.

[Chris Talk]

Goodness, where IS it then? Surely it is in some part of Talmud or QBLH, we studied it back in grade school.

I will google for Moses Ethiopian Wife as soon as I get a chance, but it is well established...

[Miles Vorkosigan]

They don't have the same rights as straights; they have more. Get into an argument with a homosexual at work and see which one of you gets fired.

As I've said before: I'll be damned if I'll just casually let them create new "rights" for themselves at the same time they're trying to disarm me, take away my freedom to criticize them, keep me from eating meat, abusing women who buy fur, etc. And sorry to disappoint you Libertarians, but the homosexuals are doing those things.

[petercooper]

I may want to marry a duck, is that ok?

[cupcakes]

Certainly those were reasons for polygamy. My point was only that it has more precedence historically than gay marriage does, yet many gays and their supporters are against the practice.

[Cinnamon Girl]

What is QBLH? Kabbalah? If you are saying that maybe Tzipporah was Ethiopian, and that's where the Midian tribe of Yisro is from, that could make sense. But I am not familiar with the idea that Moshe married anyone but Tzipporah.

[wardaddy]

Thank You.

[Chris Talk]

Yeah, there is a lot of it on Google, many from Jewish websites. Some of them have it clearly, some try to refute it.

I had not known that she was described as "Kushi" [Negro]; until right now! I had been taken in by the English translations, which say Ethiopian-- but that would be "Khabashi." Also, some of those sites try to say that she was still with Moses during the Exodus, making Tsiporah a second wife in point of time.

Yet clearly Moses DID put away [divorce] the Kushi woman at some point in his life.

In any event, the sites are so numerous, at least it does show I did not simply inVENT the story. It has lots of sources.

[wardaddy]

Savage is very good on some issues.

Myself....I like Liddy best and rarely if ever disagree with him. He's a near genius, very polite, firearms astute and eccentric....all qualities I admire.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Please give me at least one source to read, Chris Talk. Otherwise, it's not clear to me that there is another wife besides Tzipporah.

[Chris Talk]

No, no, the ethnic origin of Mitanni kingdom/ "Midian" is given in Tanakh somewhere, they are Edomitic or Arabian...and lived in far NW Saudi Arabia around present Tabuq and Aqaba port area east of the Gulf of Aqaba... well known to Egyptian history, lots of letters and communications and trade with them.

Moses father in law Yitro [KJV "Jethro"] was the king or we might say I suppose, Grand Sheikh, of Mitanni.