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Growing economy means some jobs disappear
The Miami Herald ^ | 19 February 2004 | George F. Will

Posted on 02/19/2004 8:41:38 AM PST by MegaSilver

Edited on 02/19/2004 9:20:09 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

It is difficult to say something perfectly, precisely false. But House Speaker Dennis Hastert did when participating in the bipartisan piling-on against the president's economic advisor who imprudently said something sensible.

John Kerry and John Edwards, who are not speaking under oath and who know that economic illiteracy has never been a disqualification for high office, have led the scrum against the chairman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, N. Gregory Mankiw, who said that the arguments for free trade apply to trade in services as well as manufactured goods.

But the prize for the pithiest nonsense went to Hastert: ``An economy suffers when jobs disappear.''


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: economy; idiots; trade

1 posted on 02/19/2004 8:41:39 AM PST by MegaSilver
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To: Willie Green
think you'll have fun on this thread sir :>
2 posted on 02/19/2004 8:43:24 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: MegaSilver
Nice now all our medical records are available to anybody...not just 'nation wide' but 'world wide'
Of coure YOU cant access them
Yep..and who do we have to thank for this?
3 posted on 02/19/2004 8:45:00 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: KantianBurke
That is the case for education and job training for persons needing to change their skills. Such assistance is especially imperative when the casualties of change bear no responsibility for their fate

Will still has a good column from time to time, but in between he's become a shill for the most odious forms of federal paternalism.

4 posted on 02/19/2004 8:46:07 AM PST by Huck (OK. I'm over it.)
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To: MegaSilver
Trouble is that economics ( that is pure capitalist economics) are not being taught well or at all in our schools and universities. In some ways what Will wrote is too simple for the average American. They rather believe the socialist media like the big three networks, CNN, NY Time and the Today show.
5 posted on 02/19/2004 8:47:27 AM PST by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: MegaSilver
Jobs disappear all the time, it is careers that are disappearing.
6 posted on 02/19/2004 8:48:25 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: KantianBurke
Go ahead... take my $50,000 a year job and send it to India! With a bit more schooling, in a year I will be able to demand $60,000.
7 posted on 02/19/2004 8:50:31 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: MegaSilver
The Democrats and the Bush-bashers aren't gonna let "facts" and so-called "economics" stand in the way of their delusions.
8 posted on 02/19/2004 9:10:21 AM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Go ahead... take my $50,000 a year job and send it to India! With a bit more schooling, in a year I will be able to demand $60,000.

Ya, where??? I got a hunch your new $60,000 job left right along with the $50,000 job...You'd better take some indian and chinese language classes while you're there...

9 posted on 02/19/2004 9:18:39 AM PST by Iscool
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To: JohnnyZ
The Democrats and the Bush-bashers aren't gonna let "facts" and so-called "economics" stand in the way of their delusions.

Could it be that your economic model that you seem to revere was not taught in an era when economics professors were teaching the economic structure in the US??? As I see it, all modern economic "professionals" are globalists...And contrary to your way of thinking, not all conservatives are globalists...Many of us non-globalists are all for economic success within these here United States...

10 posted on 02/19/2004 9:26:36 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
I doubt it... the programming jobs going to India are low-level coding positions. The admin jobs going to India are low-level admin jobs like creating email accounts and resetting passwords.

This will allow companies in America to create more of the high-level programming and network admin positions.

Mankiw is a genius.
11 posted on 02/19/2004 9:30:42 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Iscool
Could it be that your economic model that you seem to revere was not taught in an era when economics professors were teaching the economic structure in the US???

Could it be that YOUR economic model predates Adam Smith?

12 posted on 02/19/2004 9:35:19 AM PST by JohnnyZ (People don't just bump into each other and have sex. This isn't Cinemax! -- Jerry)
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To: Iscool
As I see it, all modern economic "professionals" are globalists

All classical economic "professionals" were globalists, too. See above post: Adam Smith.

13 posted on 02/19/2004 10:19:43 AM PST by BfloGuy (The past is like a different country, they do things different there.)
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To: KantianBurke; Willie Green
It doesn't take a genius to figure if American International companies outsource or send all their jobs overseas to low wage personnel, their profit margins momentarily increase and so does their stock pricing. Because there is a loss of jobs by people who can buy/ most afford their products at their current pricing levels, that help support those corporations' current incomes, the momentum hasn't yet caught up to them. The wheel is still turning but the driveshaft is disconnected....
14 posted on 02/19/2004 12:53:26 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: JohnnyZ; KantianBurke; azhenfud; BfloGuy; Iscool
Could it be that YOUR economic model predates Adam Smith?

Excerpted and condensed from:

Adam Smith: The Wealth of Nations, Book 4, Chapter 2

Of Restraints upon the Importation from Foreign Countries
of such Goods as can be produced at Home

"There seem, however, to be two cases in which it will generally be advantageous to lay some burden upon foreign for the encouragement of domestic industry...

  • The first is, when some particular sort of industry is necessary for the defence of the country....

  • The second case, in which it will generally be advantageous to lay some burden upon foreign for the encouragement of domestic industry is, when some tax is imposed at home upon the produce of the latter. In this case, it seems reasonable that an equal tax should be imposed upon the like produce of the former....

As there are two cases in which it will generally be advantageous to lay some burden upon foreign for the encouragement of domestic industry, so there are two others in which it may sometimes be a matter of deliberation; in the one, how far it is proper to continue the free importation of certain foreign goods; and in the other, how far, or in what manner, it may be proper to restore that free importation after it has been for some time interrupted....

  • The case in which it may sometimes be a matter of deliberation how far it is proper to continue the free importation of certain foreign goods is, when some foreign nation restrains by high duties or prohibitions the importation of some of our manufactures into their country. Revenge in this case naturally dictates retaliation, and that we should impose the like duties and prohibitions upon the importation of some or all of their manufactures into ours....

  • The case in which it may sometimes be a matter of deliberation, how far, or in what manner, it is proper to restore the free importation of foreign goods, after it has been for some time interrupted, is, when particular manufactures, by means of high duties or prohibitions upon all foreign goods which can come into competition with them, have been so far extended as to employ a great multitude of hands. Humanity may in this case require that the freedom of trade should be restored only by slow gradations, and with a good deal of reserve and circumspection. Were those high duties and prohibitions taken away all at once, cheaper foreign goods of the same kind might be poured so fast into the home market as to deprive all at once many thousands of our people of their ordinary employment and means of subsistence. The disorder which this would occasion might no doubt be very considerable....


15 posted on 02/19/2004 8:55:28 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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