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Bush 'Troubled' by Gay Marriage Issue (RE: San Fran weddings)
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Posted on 02/18/2004 9:28:40 AM PST by KantianBurke

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To: jgrubbs
No source, no link, in your reply #18.

Excuse me, the above should say reply #19.

21 posted on 02/18/2004 9:56:07 AM PST by Dane
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To: tessalu
People break the law, and flaunt the law breaking, and some look, oh, just so troubled! Bush loses my vote, right here. If he can do no better than this, he is just impotent. Where have the real men gone?

Your anger is misplaced, the governator is the chief executive in California.

22 posted on 02/18/2004 9:56:47 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Dane
No source, no link, in your reply #18. But what the hey Jgrubbs you like the homosexual activists have your own agenda to push.

I can give you links to the sources of anything in the post that you question. I didn't want to clutter the post with numerous links and footnotes. The only agenda I "push" is returning to the "limited government" that our founding fathers set in place, and educating both politicians and voters on the US Constitution. If this can be accomplished by Republican candidates I have and will continue to vote for them, if not I will vote for the candidate that will stand up for the US Constitution regardless of their political party affiliation.

Both partisan Democrats and partisan Republicans are so hungry for power that they forgot why they supposed to be in power. Both the politicians and the votes take an oath to uphold the US Constitution, but most don't.

23 posted on 02/18/2004 10:01:56 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: KantianBurke
Gay and lesbian couples from Europe and more than 20 states have lined up outside the ornate San Francisco City Hall

From the US and Europe, and that's all there is? It couldn't have cost that much to keep them in the mental institutions!
AIDs funding and tolerance training are costing more than their care in the nut houses would!

All they could round up was a small handful of sexually dysfunctional freaks, and they demand the entire world change to accommodate them? WTF'n Kerry??

I'll bet there are more environmentalists having sex with knot holes in trees than there are butt humpers in SF!

24 posted on 02/18/2004 10:02:14 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: Dane
Here are both the source's and the links for this information:

“President Bush’s Interview with Diane Sawyer”, Log Cabin Republicans of Washington, 12-17-03, http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/200312171214.shtml

“CWA Warns: Presidential Embrace of Civil Unions Undermines Pro-Family Effort to Save Marriage,” Concerned Women for America – Media, 12-17-03, http://www.cwfa.org/articles/5010/MEDIA/family/index.htm

Allie Martin, “Bush’s Comments Regarding Homosexual Leaders Rankle Pro-Family Leaders,” Agape Press, 12-18-03, http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/12/182003a.asp

“Confronting the Pride Divide,” The Village Voice, 9-7-99.

Susan Feeney, “Bush’s Openly Gay Appointments Bother Conservatives”, The Dallas Morning News, http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/199910221235.shtml

Republican National Coalition for Life, 4-24-00

“President Bush Expands AIDS Policy Team,” Log Cabin Republicans, 7-18-02, http://www.lcr.org/press/20020718.asp, also http://www.lcr.org/timeline.asp

“Post-Election 2000,” Log Cabin Republicans, http://www.lcr.org/timeline.asp

“Post-Election 2000,” Log Cabin Republicans, http://www.lcr.org/timeline.asp

“Post-Election 2000,” Log Cabin Republicans, http://www.lcr.org/timeline.asp

“U.S. Rep Jim Kolbe to Address Republican National Convention,” PR Newswire, 8-1-00, http://www.findarticles.com/cf_dls/m4PRN/2000_August_1/63805205/p1/article.jhtml

“Bush Asks Homosexual Congressman to Speak,”World Net Daily, 8-1-00, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15435

“President Bush Appoints New Members to HIV/AIDS Advisory Council,” Log Cabin Republicans, 1-25-02, http://www.logcabinwa.com/archive/200201251620.shtml

DrudgeReport.com, 7-25-02

“Freedom Means Freedom for Everybody,” Independent Gay Forum, 10-19-00, http://www.indegayforum.org/authors/miller/miller27.html

Mike Allen, “Law Extends Benefits to Same Sex Couples,” Washington Post, 6-26-02, http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A44912-2002Jun25?language=printer

“Bush Advances Gay Agenda,” Family Policy Network, http://www.familypolicy.net/features/bush-gays.shtml

“Post-Election 2000,” Log Cabin Republicans, http://www.lcr.org/timeline.asp

Richard Goldstein, “Bush’s Gay Gambit,” The Village Voice, 7-17-02, http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0229/goldstein.php, also http://www.johncarroll.info/Heroes.html

“Bush Cheers ‘Gay’ Church After ‘Marriage Week’,” World Net Daily, 11-12-03, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35539

Robert Knight, “Anatomy of a Smear: How ‘Gay’ Activists, the Media and the White House Shredded Jerry Thacker,” Concerned Women for America, Culture and Family Institute, 2- 6-03, http://www.cultureandfamily.org/articledisplay.asp?id=3266&department=CFI&categoryid=papers

“Bush: Christianity Central to His Life”, Religion Today, 1-26-00
25 posted on 02/18/2004 10:04:15 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
It sounds like you are obsessed with President Bush. I will say it again, we can vote him out of office and install Kerry or Edwards or Hillary and get something much worse, or we can write in one of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Dr. James Kennedy, or someone else who will force Americans to daily recite the living Word of God.
26 posted on 02/18/2004 10:04:33 AM PST by rj45mis
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To: tessalu
Bush loses my vote, right here.

RIGHT HERE? He loses your vote because of this social issue that has been festering for the past several years?

I think you need to take a deep breath and think about the big picture. I personally don't believe it is ever wise to throw away your vote, no matter how angry you may be at the preferred candidate. No matter what, a vote against Bush will be a vote for the Democrat candidate. This is how Clinton got elected in '92, and again in '96.

Besides, I don't believe Bush can do anything anyway unless you want him to send in the National Guard, and this clearly is not a federal issue. It is a California State issue.

27 posted on 02/18/2004 10:04:59 AM PST by SaveTheChief
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To: Dane
This was compiled, not by myself, but by by Dr. Patrick Johnston, I copied it along with the links to the sources from his full article found online at the following URL:

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article3114.html
28 posted on 02/18/2004 10:05:52 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
Log Cabin Republicans is the nation's largest gay Republican organization, with state and local chapters nationwide, a full-time Washington office and a federal political action committee.

Until they manage to destroy them from within. Then they'll be gone.

They want to destroy it's moral authority, just like they did the Catholic Church. There, they weren't just claiming to be Republicans, they were actually claiming to be men ordained by god!

29 posted on 02/18/2004 10:07:29 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: KantianBurke
Keep in mind that these aren't real marriages. They will be invalidated by a court...somewhere.
30 posted on 02/18/2004 10:08:12 AM PST by GSWarrior
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To: rj45mis
...or we can write in one of Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Dr. James Kennedy, or someone else who will force Americans to daily recite the living Word of God.

Actually I'm voting for Michael Peroutka, and no he won't "force Americans to daily recite the living Word of God". Your showing your bitterness towards Christians by that statement.

I would vote for Thomas Jefferson, who was not a Christian, if he were alive today, before I would vote for George W. Bush.

31 posted on 02/18/2004 10:10:53 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: Dane
What do you want him to do? Bomb San Francisco.

Well....nothing wrong with a little brainstorming. We've got to put all the options on the table, even if they are a little extreme. LOL.

32 posted on 02/18/2004 10:11:05 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: mel
Yep, you are right, what is next on horizon. well all that comes to my mind is pedophilia. After all there are already some groups organized to support that.

NAMBLA will be able to legally adopt their very own little sex toys.

Because of the Texas sodomy law, who can arrest them? It's in the privacy of their own bedroom, remember?

33 posted on 02/18/2004 10:13:55 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: jgrubbs
All your sources are either opinion pieces or from sources that promote an agenda(WND as one example) and if that agenda is not followed 100% by Bush than he is the anti-Christ dagnabbit.

What part of Bush's previous quotes of saying that marriage is bewteen a man and a woman don't you understand.

34 posted on 02/18/2004 10:14:11 AM PST by Dane
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To: jgrubbs
Actually I'm voting for Michael Peroutka,

BTW, what would Mr. Peroutka do about what is going on now in San Francisco.

We will probably never know since all Mr. Peroutka and his 0.01% followers do is rant that Bush isn't conservative enough.

35 posted on 02/18/2004 10:18:39 AM PST by Dane
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To: KantianBurke
Genesis 19

Sodom's Depravity

Two Evil Cities Destroyed

1 Now the two angels came to Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gate of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them, and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground.

2And he said, "Here now, my lords, please turn in to your servant's house and spend the night, and wash your feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." And they said, "No, but we will spend the night in the open square."

3But he insisted strongly; so they turned in to him and entered his house. Then he made them a feast, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate.

4Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house.

5And they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may know them carnally."

6So Lot went out to them through the doorway, shut the door behind him,

7and said, "Please, my brethren, do not do so wickedly!

8See now, I have two daughters who have not known a man; please, let me bring them out to you, and you may do to them as you wish; only do nothing to these men, since this is the reason they have come under the shadow of my roof."

9And they said, "Stand back!" Then they said, "This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as a judge; now we will deal worse with you than with them." So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the door.

10But the men reached out their hands and pulled Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. 11And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they became weary trying to find the door.

23The sun had risen upon the earth when Lot entered Zoar.

24Then the LORD rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD out of the heavens.

25So He overthrew those cities, all the plain, all the inhabitants of the cities, and what grew on the ground.

36 posted on 02/18/2004 10:20:48 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
And they said, "Stand back!"
Then they said, "This one came in to stay here, and he keeps acting as an evil conservative homophobe ,now we will deal worse with you than with them and charge you with hate crimes and hate speech legislation."
So they pressed hard against the man Lot, and came near to break down the doors of San Francisco.
37 posted on 02/18/2004 10:29:08 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Liberals are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: jgrubbs
Well done, jgrubbs....to your #19 and #25 posts. Thanks.
38 posted on 02/18/2004 10:32:17 AM PST by nfldgirl
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To: Mean Maryjean
Thank you, I see in your profile that you are from my homestate of VA. I was born in Fredericksburg. I too love history, spent my honeymoon in Shenandoah Valley, and my wife and I took one day to go on a chronological tour of the Northern VA battlefields.

You can still be a history "teacher" to you family and friends!
39 posted on 02/18/2004 10:39:03 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: Dane
Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind.

I see a strong parallel between the foolish things the President has done with respect to ILLEGAL ALIENS as with GAY RIGHTS (and by extension, GAY MARRAIGE).

President Bush, while personally moral and a nice guy, nevertheless helped opened the floodgates for further illegal immigration with his & Rove's assinine plan for regularization/legalization for foreign illegals.

Bush also met with the disgraceful "AUSTIN 12" Homosexual G.O.P. activists in Austin, Texas in 2000, pandering to them to get the vote, and trying to be all things to all people. He was "reasonable" and "compassionate", opening dialogue with them, and being 'incluuuuuusive' and for 'diverrrrrsity'.

Now what the hell do you expect four years later? The President should have known that those he met with, probably to a man or to a woman (or to a man-boy as the case may be) supported GAY MARRIAGE.

I say, DONT ACCEPT Gay Group endorsements or overtures, lobbying or otherwise;, like Bob Dole, DONT ACCEPT their money or their influence.

What part of the compassionate The Austin 12-Governor Bush 2000 Austin, Texas Meeting and it's overall impact do you fail to comprehend?

40 posted on 02/18/2004 10:41:16 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Another vote here for Bush, only IF Congress ends up defeating his illegal immigration amnesty law)
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