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Bush 'Troubled' by Gay Marriage Issue (RE: San Fran weddings)
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Posted on 02/18/2004 9:28:40 AM PST by KantianBurke

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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
"Bush's weak spot ishis core..."

You got that right!! It makes me nauseated to hear that kind of speech coming from a Republican...but I am getting used to it. WHEN IS HE GOING TO LEARN THAT NOT STANDING FOR ANYTHING IS WORSE THAN STANDING FOR THE WRONG THING!! If the man would just get over being intimidated and afraid someone will find fault with him, and be strong, he would fare a lot better in the polls. THE MEDIA AND CARL ROVE HAVE TURNED THIS MAN INTO A WHIMPERING COWARD!!!
121 posted on 02/18/2004 9:30:29 PM PST by whadizit
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To: Aquinasfan
What's wrong with the President using the word "troubling" may I ask? It's beginning to be more than a little bit tiring to hear people nitpicking on every word this man says! How would you like it if a few people started nitpicking on everything you said?
122 posted on 02/18/2004 9:31:29 PM PST by Lady In Blue (Christians- Remember CHRIST'S PASSION. Take our country back! Bush/Cheney04)
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To: jwalsh07
Judges make law, executives interpret law. Its the new American paradigm.

And politicians do not enforce the law when it does not do what they want, they just tell the judges to make new ones. It is a strange form of dictatorship, but it works.

123 posted on 02/18/2004 9:53:34 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Don Joe; OrthodoxPresbyterian; CARepubGal; Jerry_M; RnMomof7
^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Baptists and Orthodox Presbyterians. Again.

These folks are under siege.
124 posted on 02/18/2004 10:06:00 PM PST by George W. Bush (It's the Congress, stupid.)
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To: itsahoot
A good ambiguous statement like being "troubled" serves his purposes.

Oh, great Super Secret, Super Genius Plan number 12,345.

Nope, I'm not a Bushbot, the guy's disappointed me plenty. I really flipped out over that amnesty plan, but I just hang on to hope it will get bottled up in Congress no matter what Bush does. He's done a few other bonehead things, too.

But his handling of this so far is not bonehead. He knows that the media is waiting for him to go fundamental on the gays, and the Woodward-and-Bernstein wannabes over at CNN only have thirty year Air National Guard records to chew on, nothing that makes Bush look like the bad guy that Clinton looked like at his worst. Bush needs to play this smart, he needs to make this look like Kerry's issue, not his. So far, he's doing that.

125 posted on 02/18/2004 10:42:05 PM PST by hunter112
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To: KantianBurke
I figure this...........they get married after they pay their money to the city clerk. Judges declare later that marrige is moot. Homos then file suit against the city for fraud and the oldie but goodie ..."emotional distress". And then the taxpayers have to bail this turdburgler of a mayor and his city goobermint bean counters out with our dollars ! Doom on this POS and all polidiots that allow it to happen !

Stay safe !

126 posted on 02/19/2004 3:01:13 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Lady In Blue
What's wrong with the President using the word "troubling" may I ask? It's beginning to be more than a little bit tiring to hear people nitpicking on every word this man says! How would you like it if a few people started nitpicking on everything you said?

Like you 8-) Seriously, I find his "troubling" comment troubling because this is about all that we're getting from Republicans everywhere. No one seems willing to actually do anything or say anything critical of homosexual behavior itself. The best we get is some milquetoast endorsement of traditional marriage. If the Republicans aren't going to engage the homosexual crowd's "equal protection" argument straight up then the battle will have been over before it's begun.

127 posted on 02/19/2004 4:38:33 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Would a Constitutional Amendment help?

Let's ask one of our founding fathers, the 2nd President of the United States, John Adams:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
128 posted on 02/19/2004 7:05:47 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: Aquinasfan
"Seriously, I find his "troubling" comment troubling because this is about all that we're getting from Republicans everywhere. No one seems willing to actually do anything or say anything"

THANK YOU! Perfect observation. If one wants to hear mealy mouth "feel good" statements then vote for Bubba. We expect and demand better from Bush particuarly when its an important issue as this one.
129 posted on 02/19/2004 7:07:45 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: KantianBurke
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130 posted on 02/19/2004 2:26:12 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: KantianBurke
thanks for posting
131 posted on 02/19/2004 8:12:07 PM PST by Mel Gibson (Suffer from Allergies, Asthma or Adversely Affected by Foul Air ? See "About Me")
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To: smith288
I think I have seen 70% among Americans in support of a constitutional ammendment defining marriage.

Brit Hume was talking about the polls this afternoon on his show. The 70% figure is the number of Americans who oppose "gay" marriage. The number for/against a constitutional amendment is split about 50/50. Americans don't want this new definition of marriage; but, they seem hesitant to amend the Constitution to do it.

132 posted on 02/19/2004 8:17:10 PM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: longtermmemmory
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Oh yes let's just throw out the parts of the Constitution that get in the way of the 'conservative' agenda. Is that it? It is a state issue as evidenced by the Constitution.

Let me state for the record I am one hundred percent against unions of sodomy, however passing another Constitutional Amendment will not fix it. The states need to take the power given to them by the Constitution back

133 posted on 02/19/2004 8:19:45 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: KantianBurke; Libertarianize the GOP
Well now , there is a set of keywords.
134 posted on 02/22/2004 10:55:32 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: jgrubbs; rj45mis
If one can speak of Judaism's essence, it is contained in the Torah statement, “I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse, and you shall choose life.” Judaism affirms whatever enhances life, and it opposes or separates whatever represents death.

Reference Item:

Judaism’s Sexual Revolution: Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

135 posted on 02/22/2004 11:02:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: hunter112
Good thoughts!
136 posted on 02/22/2004 11:05:50 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: KantianBurke
Stop the press he's "troubled".
137 posted on 02/22/2004 11:10:15 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie; billbears
I liked the meat of what President Bush had to say, rather than the code word the reporter played on:

"I have watched carefully what's happening in San Francisco, where licenses were being issued, even though the law states otherwise," Bush said.

Linda Chavez stated the situation succinctly: "But voters in California rejected gay marriage by nearly a two-to-one margin just four years ago, when 61 percent voted in favor of Proposition 22, a ballot initiative that said: "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." If a handful of city officials can circumvent the will of the people -- as expressed in a state law passed by the majority of California voters -- can anarchy be far behind?"

The Governor of the state of California is the chief law enforcement officer of that state.

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 5 EXECUTIVE

SECTION 1. The supreme executive power of this State is vested in the Governor.
The Governor shall see that the law is faithfully executed. ___________________________________________________________

I believe the President understands this and is in communication with the governor of California.

Governor Schwarzenegger rightly turned to the Attorney General to enforce the law. "Our civilized society and legal system is based upon a respect for and adherence to the rule of law. The City and County of San Francisco's unfortunate choice to disregard state law and grant marriage certificates to gay couples directly undermines this fundamental guarantee," Schwarzenegger wrote. "As Attorney General, you have the authority to take legal action to require the City and County of San Francisco to comply with the laws of the State."

The Attorney General has wantonly refused.

It is now time for the Governor to enforce the laws of his state.

Email Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger: governor@governor.ca.gov

138 posted on 02/22/2004 11:56:45 AM PST by .30Carbine (It's time to clean house!)
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To: .30Carbine
Arnold should have the mayor arrested, post haste.
139 posted on 02/22/2004 1:42:49 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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